The moment the 551 comes I think the R5 would be a go with Audi building the car. It wouldn't make sense for Porsche to build the R5 as that is akin to Audi building the Macan as its running on the Q5 platform and engines.

Originally Posted by Microice

The moment the 551 comes I think the R5 would be a go with Audi building the car. It wouldn't make sense for Porsche to build the R5 as that is akin to Audi building the Macan as its running on the Q5 platform and engines.

Porsche will build Macan in Porsche factory according to their press release. Given the timeframe, audi could build R5 and an MSB-based R8 on same line. Porsche would simply develop.

I already think the R8 don't belong in the Audi line-up at all, let alone there will be another useless mid engined car in the line-up.
I don't see the point in building this kinds of cars while the rest of the Audi range are mostly boring cars.
The New A3 is a shiny example of a modern boring Audi car.

Originally Posted by R5T

I already think the R8 don't belong in the Audi line-up at all, let alone there will be another useless mid engined car in the line-up.
I don't see the point in building this kinds of cars while the rest of the Audi range are mostly boring cars.
The New A3 is a shiny example of a modern boring Audi car.

They can't all be RS cars. I don't find the A3 boring, but I'm also more of an S, RS or R customer myself. I think though if you asked Audi marketing, even if they never made a dime on the R8 it's been a home run for Audi and the building of the brand. I suspect you'd find a lot of people who disagree with your statement, myself included.

Originally Posted by R5T

I already think the R8 don't belong in the Audi line-up at all, let alone there will be another useless mid engined car in the line-up.
I don't see the point in building this kinds of cars while the rest of the Audi range are mostly boring cars.
The New A3 is a shiny example of a modern boring Audi car.

You have a point when you say there is no point in the R8 if everything else is not as good. Though Audi's aren't ugly they could do with some out of the box thoughts. I don't mind the A3 being ok if they give us a limited run of cars like the A1 clubsport, Quattro concept and R5 to spice things up. Maybe the higher ups (Porsche?) are not so keen on Audi being so sporty.

Originally Posted by Microice

You have a point when you say there is no point in the R8 if everything else is not as good. Though Audi's aren't ugly they could do with some out of the box thoughts. I don't mind the A3 being ok if they give us a limited run of cars like the A1 clubsport, Quattro concept and R5 to spice things up. Maybe the higher ups (Porsche?) are not so keen on Audi being so sporty.

All the cars you mention here are very specialty cars... very low volume. Even Porsche would not do so well if it did not have the Cayenne. Not everyone buys hard-edged sportscars. In the US the #1 and #2 segments are pickup trucks and family sedans.

Originally Posted by R5T

I already think the R8 don't belong in the Audi line-up at all, let alone there will be another useless mid engined car in the line-up.
I don't see the point in building this kinds of cars while the rest of the Audi range are mostly boring cars.
The New A3 is a shiny example of a modern boring Audi car.

There are no words to express how intensely I disagree with you on every point of your comment. So I won't even try. But I am curious. What are you comparing the "rest of the audi range" to? Ferrari? Porche? Some other exotic? I think if you were to compare apples to apples you might come to a different conclusion.

Originally Posted by George@Fourtitude

All the cars you mention here are very specialty cars... very low volume. Even Porsche would not do so well if it did not have the Cayenne. Not everyone buys hard-edged sportscars. In the US the #1 and #2 segments are pickup trucks and family sedans.

I didn't mean to say Audi should focus on the speciality cars and not the bread and butter. My favourite Audi of all time is the B7 A4 2.0 Quattro. But the reason the R8 is so loved is because its an out of the box car from a bread and butter manufacturer and I wouldn't mind another car along those lines.

Originally Posted by Microice

I didn't mean to say Audi should focus on the speciality cars and not the bread and butter. My favourite Audi of all time is the B7 A4 2.0 Quattro. But the reason the R8 is so loved is because its an out of the box car from a bread and butter manufacturer and I wouldn't mind another car along those lines.

And that car is called TT.

I'll buy one, whichever badge end up on it.

Originally Posted by John Y

I'll buy one, whichever badge end up on it.

New reports say Audi trademarked the 'R6' name so there it can go either way with the name.

Originally Posted by Microice

New reports say Audi trademarked the 'R6' name so there it can go either way with the name.

Yeah, I meant the Porsche or the Audi badge - I'd take the VW version too, if that were the only one to be produced.

Audi also have filed trademark for "R6"
This could means the next R8 move up to Aventador level and creating space between TT and next R8 for a R5//R6.
Mening the R5 will be a 2.5TFSI 5 cylinder and the R6 could get the all new V6 Bi-Turbo 3.0TFSI engine.

Originally Posted by R5T

Audi also have filed trademark for "R6"
This could means the next R8 move up to Aventador level and creating space between TT and next R8 for a R5//R6.
Mening the R5 will be a 2.5TFSI 5 cylinder and the R6 could get the all new V6 Bi-Turbo 3.0TFSI engine.

Interesting but I don't see R8 moving up market. I suspect this is more simply them filling in the gaps and buying up the nameplates. Call it the Q7 lesson.

Sounds great!



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Originally Posted by George@Fourtitude

Porsche will build Macan in Porsche factory according to their press release. Given the timeframe, audi could build R5 and an MSB-based R8 on same line. Porsche would simply develop.

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