noisy lifters!

[rollinondubs]

I recently (about 2 weeks ago) got a tuneup done (oil,plugs,filters,fluids), and ever since then, especially first thing in the morning, my lifters have been ticking really loud. They used to occasionally tick before, but never this much or this loud. I was just wondering if anyone else has this problem, or knows what might be causing this, and what I could do to get rid of it?

thanks

[WCPvee-dubVR]

yah i get the same prob. on 2.0's
you are prob. not getting enough oil

[rollinondubs]

I dont think its that, I just got an oil change and even before that the oil was still at a reasonable level.

Woudl the weight of the oil maybe make a diffrence?

[rollinondubs]

anybody?

[dunhamjr]

could be that there is not enough oil in the car, even if you just got an oil change, that doesnt nec mean enough was added back in... i would check that first.

it could also be the weight of the oil. a thinner oil may allow more noise out of the lifters and engine overall when compared to a heavier oil...

this is all assumption of course.

my car made lifter noise all the time, when i installed my new cam i got new lifters. no more noise.

[SoLo2pointO]

The amount of oil is not an issue here, its a matter of your lifters are beginning to get "clogged" with oil deposits....You have 3 options to choose from to help quiet them down a bit...

Option #1:

Dissassmble your entire head, remove the lifters and throughly clean the holes in them free of any deposits, reinstall in reverse order. This method is not to time friendly, and if you don't have any mechanical experience, could get a little pricey depending on the shop charges. But since the head is apart might as well replace the lifters any who? -----> Option #2.

Option #3:

A method used by me when I had my 87 Jetta with noisy lifters... Run ATF fluid in place of the oil on idle for 10-20 min.
This may sound like a horrific thing for your engine, but its not...Just read on....

First drain all the oil in the car and either save if it is still good, or fresh. Then, add ATF fluid, yes Automatic Transmission Fluid, where the oil normally goes, right into the engine...All 4.2 quarts full, just like you were changing the oil. Run the car AT AN IDLE for 10-20 min depending on how noisy the lifters are. It is IMPERATIVE that you don't drive it with the ATF fluid in, it doesn't lubricate quite as well as oil.

Drain the ATF fluid out after it has idled for a bit, and replace with your oil. Voila! Your lifters should have quieted down to nothing!

The ATF fluid acts as a super detergent for the lifters and cleans everything out of there, with no harm to the motor at an idle, perfectly fine. My 87 Jetta had 204,000 miles on when I did this, and to this day, the motor is still running with over 260,000 miles on it.

So try that out, it should work. (sorry for being so long!)

[EastCoast04]

thats a good post, i'll remember that if i ever get a free moment...i cant even remember the last time i took a dump in my own toliet

[whitemike]

Quote, originally posted by EastCoast04 »

thats a good post, i'll remember that if i ever get a free moment...i cant even remember the last time i took a dump in my own toliet

[micabeau1]

will this work on a vr6 without destroying it??

[avw4me]

Change to a thicker weight oil on your next oil change.

[GTI_2.0T]

Quote, originally posted by EastCoast04 »

i cant even remember the last time i took a dump in my own toliet

[whitemike]

Quote, originally posted by JettaGLS »

HAHA, lol.

[kryptonik]

is that sound only at an idle? in nuetral?

[HellyHans]

So basically its like putting synthetic oil... cause thats what syn oil does.. its alot less thick... so it cleans out your crap everywhere.... but then... on a engine that has alot of miles on it.. its not recommended to change to synthetic because your car will burn and puff oil after cause it cleaned all the passage ways that were clogged before no???

[pdxvento]

Quote, originally posted by HellyHans »

So basically its like putting synthetic oil... cause thats what syn oil does.. its alot less thick... so it cleans out your crap everywhere.... but then... on a engine that has alot of miles on it.. its not recommended to change to synthetic because your car will burn and puff oil after cause it cleaned all the passage ways that were clogged before no???

not exactly. it will leak more because it can get through tightrer spaces and cracks that conventional oil cant

[2.sloGTI]

the ATF thing is what guys with rotary engines (ie. rx7) do to clean ***** out, it works for them too but makes a hell of alot of smoke!

i forgot the whole reason why they had to run ATF though, it was to clean something but i forget what i just know that it burns deposits off and make da kine mo betta!

wait im not in the hawaii forum, let me put that in english.

it cleans and cleanses with tiny scrubbing bubbles to remove all sort of unorthodox agents and deposits. yay.

[rollinondubs]

ok , thanks for the tips, ill try some of those out.

And ya, I think the oil got changed to a less thick oil, so that could be contributing to it.

[rollinondubs]

Quote, originally posted by kryptonik »

is that sound only at an idle? in nuetral?

nope, whenever the engines running, gets louder at higher rpm's

[rollinondubs]

Quote, originally posted by avw4me »

Change to a thicker weight oil on your next oil change.

I was told it wouldnt be good to do that JUST to quieten the lifters. Sort of like avoiding the problem. Plus I live in the "frozen north" , and with winter coming up, thicker oil doesnt lubricate as well in the cold, right?