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    Thread: DIY - Installing a new brake light switch (without breaking it!)

    1. Member Murphy's Avatar
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      05-10-2004 07:33 PM #26
      its not just jetta's...new beetles also with the same year range. there is no recall on golf/gti's that i know of, at the moment
      I'm on my feet, I'm on the floor, I'm good to go.

    2. 05-10-2004 08:44 PM #27
      Pics are back online!
      Gary

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      05-10-2004 09:06 PM #28
      Quote, originally posted by vasillalov »
      ALL THIS IS NOT NECESSARY ANYMORE!

      I know about the recall, though just in case I'm in the recall range but can't get an appointment when I'm off work any time soon (no nearby local dealer is open weekends), since the part's $10 I might just get one myself if they won't just give it to me.
      I made my PDF - thank you for the pics!

    4. 05-10-2004 09:17 PM #29
      True, but there are a lot of Vortexers who would never let a dealer work on their car and would rather just suck up the $10 and do it themselves.
      Gary

    5. 05-10-2004 09:25 PM #30
      Quote, originally posted by VgRt6 »
      True, but there are a lot of Vortexers who would never let a dealer work on their car and would rather just suck up the $10 and do it themselves.
      Gary

      Exactly! [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

    6. 05-11-2004 07:44 AM #31
      Yep... and you can reimbursed for your parts too!

    7. 07-07-2004 02:24 PM #32
      Kennedy-
      How do you get re-imbursed?

    8. 07-07-2004 02:34 PM #33
      I believe a reimbursement form came with the recall announcement. I'll check when I get home. I'll post it if I find it.
      BTW, did the new switch get rid of the code?
      Gary


      Modified by VgRt6 at 2:36 PM 7-7-2004

    9. 07-09-2004 09:35 AM #34
      Thanks again. I'm going to get the switch today and was wondering if the EPC light will go off when I replace it? I'd love to get my $$ back too. Even though its only like $10, I'd rather not give Stohlman's any of my $$$.

    10. 07-09-2004 10:16 AM #35
      It should go off (may take a while) if the switch fixes the problem.
      I forgot to look for the reimbursement form. I'll try and remember tonight.
      Gary

    11. 07-11-2004 10:31 PM #36
      Thanks for the DIY......If you have the old switch (type A) you can take the switch apart and fix it your self. When you take the switch apart there is a little gold conductor that gets knocked off its track. Just re-align the conductor and put the switch back together. To make sure its working right after words take a multimeter and set it to ohms. Then place one lead on pin 2 and the other on pin 3. You should read an open one way and a short the other way (depending on if the switch is depressed or extended). The switch its self was an easy fix. Dont waste the money if you dont have to!!

    12. 07-11-2004 11:15 PM #37
      Thanks for the info. [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]
      Gary

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      07-18-2004 04:30 PM #38
      I just got a new switch, followed the instructions and all worked well, everything described happened.
      The brake lights stay on now. All of the time.
      If I push the pedal down and push the switch all the way in, they still stay on.
      Is there anything else I need to do.
      The original A switch leaves them off all of the time, the D switch leaves them on all of the time.
      Any ideas?

    14. 07-18-2004 08:29 PM #39
      It's possible that the new switch broke while you were installing it. When it breaks, the lights stay on all of the time. It's such a stupid design ... something shouldn't break even when installed correctly!
      I'm local, so if you're still having trouble with the switch, I can probably stop by and help out.
      Gary

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      07-18-2004 08:41 PM #40
      Hey, thanks Gary. I followed the procedure to a T.
      If I broke the new one with the 'improved desgin' then I will not put it on the car at all. I will pick up a generic stop light switch used on GM vehicles.
      I handled it with extreme care. I repair motherboards, overclock cpus, repair pcb boards so I know how to be delicate.
      However I did fix my old one! [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]
      I took the old switch apart and found all of the contacts were black.
      I cleaned them up with copper cleaner, then tinned them over using some gold acid free solder.
      installed the old switch and it works perfectly, no EPC light, tested it with a hundred pumps of the pedal with my wife behind the car.
      It works perfectly.
      I will exchange the switch tomorrow and toss it on the shelf for another 80k.

      FYI: Gold solder is available at an electronics store, I happened to have some since I do motherboard and other PCB repairs.
      I would not use standard solder since this will corode faster than the copper contacts themselves.

    16. 07-18-2004 09:04 PM #41
      Nice work! I have the old switch as well and did a similar cleaning procedure to fix it. The DIY is based on my sister's Jetta which has the newer style switch.
      I'm sure you were careful when installing the switch. That's how delicate the internal mechanism is! It can break even when installed correctly. I've heard of dealers, who should and supposedly do know the correct installation procedure taking as many as 5 times to get the switch in correctly!
      Gary

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      07-18-2004 09:21 PM #42
      Well Mr. CorradoG60, installed 6 of them today.
      he says I did it wrong.
      If the original breaks again, I will replace it with a universal sealed double momentary switch.
      That will be a permanent fix.

      Thanks again for your help.
      -B

    18. 07-18-2004 10:16 PM #43
      Anytime.
      Gary

    19. 07-19-2004 02:25 PM #44
      Gary,
      Any luck with the form? I gave those guys $10 at the dealership and man am I pissed, lol. I hate Stohlmans! I just got the new switch an hour ago and am going to try to fix the problem today. Thanks again!
      Justin

    20. 07-19-2004 02:40 PM #45
      I've got the form sitting on my desk. It claims that the recall (code WX) is only for 99-02 Jettas. Golfs/GTIs are not included.
      I'd give VWOA a call and ask what the deal is. The # is 866-896-2872.
      Gary

    21. 07-19-2004 02:44 PM #46
      last time i checked, it was a recall.. dealership fixed mine for freeeeeeeeee

    22. 07-19-2004 05:13 PM #47
      Hey Gary,
      I replaced my A version of the switch with the new D version in the GTI. Followed your instructions to a T. Held the switch in place, pulled the brake pedal out making sure the switch did not move, turned the switch to lock it in, then connected the wiring harness and.....still no brake lights......nothing. Any ideas???

    23. 07-19-2004 05:16 PM #48
      Quote, originally posted by xxmotodrewxx »
      last time i checked, it was a recall.. dealership fixed mine for freeeeeeeeee

      Yes, but since most dealers are scum.... tend to break things.... don't know their ass from a hole in the ground.... think there isn't a difference between synthetic and conventional motor oil... etc... etc... etc...

      For all these MANY reasons... a lot of REAL enthusiasts prefer to do their own work. Considering I paid $12 for the switch, spent 20minutes installing it, and VW is refunding my $12... I think I'm the one who made out... Dropping it off at the dealer would have taken longer than 20mins, plus the hassle of getting a ride while I'm w/o my car, etc...

      At least Gary is nice enough to take the time and make these FREAKING AWESOME DIYs for people... so don't knock it, show some appreciation.

      If you don't want to do it yourself, DON'T READ THE DIY.

    24. 07-19-2004 05:40 PM #49
      Was the brake pedal depressed when you installed it, or was it pulled UP against the stop (the normal position when driving and the brakes aren't applied)? The latter should be the case when installing the switch.
      If that didn't help out, then I'm not sure what's up. Does the old switch still work (sometimes). If you want to drop by my work again, I'll take the new switch apart and see if it's broken.
      Gary

    25. 07-19-2004 05:41 PM #50
      Quote, originally posted by digitalhippie »
      Yes, but since most dealers are scum.... tend to break things.... don't know their ass from a hole in the ground.... think there isn't a difference between synthetic and conventional motor oil... etc... etc... etc...

      For all these MANY reasons... a lot of REAL enthusiasts prefer to do their own work. Considering I paid $12 for the switch, spent 20minutes installing it, and VW is refunding my $12... I think I'm the one who made out... Dropping it off at the dealer would have taken longer than 20mins, plus the hassle of getting a ride while I'm w/o my car, etc...

      At least Gary is nice enough to take the time and make these FREAKING AWESOME DIYs for people... so don't knock it, show some appreciation.

      If you don't want to do it yourself, DON'T READ THE DIY.


      Thanks for writing that so I didn't have to! I hate it when people don't read through the whole thread before replying.
      Gary

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