Eliminate or reduce YOUR 2nd gear Grind

**VWLeistung** · 02-14-2004 03:01 PM

http://www.germanautoparts.com has Redline. i get mine from a local racing shop too.

**DUBBINandLOVIN** · 02-14-2004 03:22 PM

post this in the mk3 forum also!!

**89HeliosGli** · 02-15-2004 02:18 AM

thanks

**gtidubboy** · 02-15-2004 03:26 AM

k so who all has done the GM deal and which one of the syncromesh dealies is it?

**rsrm491** · 02-15-2004 03:31 AM

sounds awesome....so which part # synchromesh fluid should we get? I'm gonna try it in the 911, since the synchros are pretty shot. I've got Mobil 1 in the GTi right now...no problems. yet.

**blue01** · 02-20-2004 12:04 AM

Wich Part number is the one to use?

**eldo** · 02-20-2004 02:35 AM

boing. a cheaper alternative to redline is always invited.

so, do you get bottle A, or bottle B?

**Sail2948** · 02-20-2004 09:26 AM

Quote, originally posted by blue01 »

Wich Part number is the one to use?

**Golfdrvr5** · 02-20-2004 10:37 AM

If I were to get one, I'd get the one without friction modifiers (GM part# 12345349)

**Duff Man** · 02-20-2004 10:59 AM

redline sucks. it did nothing for my trans when i put it in.

royal purple did wonders over the redline.....reduced the shifting problems (ie: grinding in second) and smoothed out the shifting....i'd try the gm crap in my honda....if i had a problem.

**92Valver** · 02-25-2004 07:42 PM

Sorry guys, I haven't been on the Vortex in a while. Anyways, the one I used was the one on the right with the friction modifiers. PN 123777916.

Let me know how it goes. Post some results.

Good Luck.

**Bozwell** · 03-01-2004 01:20 PM

i just sent my gf out today to get this stuff for her tranny and it cost US $10 per bottle!

oh well, still cheaper than a tranny rebuild

**Euro Dub** · 03-01-2004 04:35 PM

Tag

**sebz1.8t** · 03-01-2004 04:55 PM

You can't tell your right from your left ???

The one on the left is with friction mod.... P/N: 12377916 (not 123777916)

**Euro Dub** · 03-01-2004 07:11 PM

Unless of course you look at it from the bottles POV

If your going to be technical about it

**trn905** · 03-01-2004 09:31 PM

just my .02$ I went, after work today, to the GM dealer. bought 2 quarts of this stuff ( $9.91 each ) It takes ten minutes to change the tranny fluid ( pull the drivers side front wheel, and both the filler plug, and drain plug are right in front of you ) I dumped this stuff in, and it's now shifting smooth-as-silk. Do it.

**Golfdrvr5** · 03-01-2004 11:40 PM

which did you use, with or without friction modifiers?

Modified by Golfdrvr5 at 7:14 PM 3-2-2004

**Euro Dub** · 03-02-2004 12:14 AM

Quote, originally posted by Golfdrvr5 »

which did you use, with or without friction modifyers?

Quote, originally posted by 92Valver »

Sorry guys, I haven't been on the Vortex in a while. Anyways, the one I used was the one on the right with the friction modifiers. PN 123777916.

Let me know how it goes. Post some results.

Good Luck.

**Golfdrvr5** · 03-02-2004 02:19 PM

Quote, originally posted by Euro Dub »

not really sure what that is in reference to, but I'm just trying to find out who used what type and how it worked for them.

**Euro Dub** · 03-02-2004 05:56 PM

Quote, originally posted by Golfdrvr5 »

not really sure what that is in reference to, but I'm just trying to find out who used what type and how it worked for them.

Why the starter of this thread of course.

**SlientG60** · 03-02-2004 06:57 PM

I got some redline and it works. had a small grinding in second nothing big, but i have no grinding at all anymore.

Modified by SlientG60 at 3:59 PM 3-2-2004

**GS Audio** · 03-02-2004 07:02 PM

Heck....I'll give it a shot too!

**Bozwell** · 03-03-2004 02:58 AM

im puttin the stuff in my gf's car tomorrow, ill let you guys know how it turns out

heck, if this stuff makes a big enuf difference i may replace the redline in my car!!!

**mr.miyagi-mk2-16v** · 03-03-2004 10:19 AM

I might as well give it a try, 2nd doesnt grind all that much but every once in a while... I have more of a problem getting 2nd to even go in after i've hit over 4 grand in 1st gear. haha. Yeah on a serious note though, if changing the tranny fluid only takes 10 minutes I mights just do it today.

**SpclAgentD** · 03-03-2004 10:54 AM

Doesn't seem like Redline's doing their job... Sounds like everyone that's running Redline Tranny fluid is having problems. My brother's running Redline in his Euro Spec Corrado and his 2nd gear is starting to grind

**Bozwell** · 03-03-2004 01:08 PM

guys all i can say is

i used to hafta wait about 5 sec to shoft from first to second to keep the tranny from grinding in my gf's ACN tranny. i put the sychromesh in and no matter how quick i shifted i could NOT get the tranny to grind!!! i even found chunks of metal in the old oil after i drained it so this tranny would not have had much life left!

my GLI has no tranny probs but i think the redline may be gettin replaced soon

EDIT: i went for a drive in the car tonite and when it still cold second gear would grind if i shifted too quickly, but when it warmed up got a little better

Modified by Bozwell at 3:29 AM 3-4-2004

**old man neri** · 03-03-2004 01:52 PM

Another solution would be to double clutch. It works for me especially when down shifting or shifting in cold weather. here is a link to a site that explains how do it and exactly what is going on inside your tranny. enjoy

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/transmission.htm

**mahkra** · 03-03-2004 02:07 PM

Quote, originally posted by Golfdrvr5 »

GM makes two kinds of syncromesh fluids, one with friction modifiers (GM part #123777916), and one without(GM part# 12345349).

I'm betting the friction modifier is for limited slips (the kind with clutch plates in them).

**mr.miyagi-mk2-16v** · 03-03-2004 02:19 PM

Quote, originally posted by old man neri »

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/transmission.htm

Awesome explanation on this web page.

**old man neri** · 03-03-2004 02:23 PM

I thought you would like it, actually the whole website explains cars fairly well.

**muzein** · 03-03-2004 02:40 PM

Well, I am going to get some of this, as I have some 2nd gear problems. Not much, but I have to wait a second from 1st to 2nd, or it grinds.
Maybe I missed it.. but what one do I want, the one with friction modifiers or not?

**spdfrek** · 03-03-2004 05:12 PM

I am going to have to try this.

**mr.miyagi-mk2-16v** · 03-06-2004 12:42 PM

Quote, originally posted by muzein »

Well, I am going to get some of this, as I have some 2nd gear problems. Not much, but I have to wait a second from 1st to 2nd, or it grinds.
Maybe I missed it.. but what one do I want, the one with friction modifiers or not?

It was made fairly confusing which to use, the friction modifiers or the stuff without it, I am waiting a straight answer before i head over to GM next week.

**Swollen** · 03-06-2004 03:26 PM

Found some new info.

http://www.stealth316.com/2-pe...h.htm

**maxxam** · 03-14-2004 07:33 PM

For a stock tranny, is the fuild WITH or WITHOUT the friction modifiers best to use?

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