I did some 1/4 mile runs today, you will love this!

[95GLX]

I ran at ATCO raceway today in New Jersey, this car surprised the hell out of me for the most part. I was expecting a 14.3@96-97 at best. Conditions were 32 degrees and a 20 mph headwind with sun.
First pass was a 14.357@95.14mph!
Second pass, oops, esp kicked on at the line, 15.3@95mph!
Then a nice pass, 14.050@96.26mph! Decent shifts, nice launch, no ESP!
Hmm, will this thing bust a 13, no freaking way! I am stoked just to run the 14.3, then a 14.0, ecstatic!

The rest of the runs:

14.2@95.68mph, rev limiter in 1st and 2nd.
15.1@92.35, esp killed me again, took it easy!
13.975@97.02mph, nice launch,1.93 60', nice shifts! Yup, that was a 13 allright, I knew it would do it once I ran the 14.0!
14.081@95.71mph, rev limiter again, man it comes quick in 2nd and 1st! beat a tuned 1.8 TT!
14.079@96.91, beat an SRT-4!
14.194@96.00, rev limiter again!
14.169@95.56, ditto from last pass!

Average 60' was a 1.92on the good passes with the DSP, hit a 1.89 as the best of the day!

Modified by 95GLX at 11:43 AM 2-25-2004

[sacgti]

Nice! At what rpm were you launching it ?

[Broken96VR6]

Well, I guess there goes that "my chipped, down piped, inleted, p-flowed, catbacked, 14.5 running 1.8t is faster for cheaper" arguement right out the window. With VR's running better with more milage, your car being pretty new and stock, and getting more familiar with shift points and launch techniques, your car should make it into the 13's easy. I remeber all of the nay-sayers that were doubting one guy from England who posted up his times. It was an AMD 270 car that did a 13.8 with 4 people in the car. I'd love to see what an AMD 300 package will do. Nice numbers and thanks.........

[j-dub]

Very nice!

What are your future plans with the car?

[michel]

Quote, originally posted by 95GLX »

I ran at ATCO raceway today in New Jersey, this car surprised the hell out of me for the most part. I was expecting a 14.3@96-97 at best. Conditions were 32 degrees and a 20 mph headwind with sun. First pass was a 14.357@95.14mph! Second pass, oops, esp kicked on at the line, 15.3@95mph! Then a nice pass, 14.050@96.26mph! Decent shifts, nice launch, no ESP! Hmm, will this thing bust a 13, no freaking way! I am stoked just to run the 14.3, then a 14.0, ecstatic! The rest of the runs: 14.2@95.68mph, rev limiter in 1st and 2nd. 15.1@92.35, esp killed me again, took it easy! 13.975@97.02mph, nice launch,1.93 60', nice shifts! Yup, that was a 13 allright, I knew it would do it once I ran the 14.0! 14.081@95.71mph, rev limiter again, man it comes quick in 2nd and 1st! beat a tuned 1.8 TT! 14.079@96.91, beat an SRT-4! 14.194@96.00, rev limiter again! 14.169@95.56, ditto from last pass! Average 60' was a 1.92on the good passes with the DSP, hit a 1.89 as the best of the day! Anthony Dowd

Be careful on the clutch. Excellent run , maybe this 1/4-mile time will shut up some of the nay Sayers. One other thing, make sure you post your time slips for these run or else nobody won't believe it.

[veedubpiranha]

Quote, originally posted by 95GLX »

I ran at ATCO raceway today in New Jersey, this car surprised the hell out of me for the most part. I was expecting a 14.3@96-97 at best. Conditions were 32 degrees and a 20 mph headwind with sun. First pass was a 14.357@95.14mph! Second pass, oops, esp kicked on at the line, 15.3@95mph! Then a nice pass, 14.050@96.26mph! Decent shifts, nice launch, no ESP! Hmm, will this thing bust a 13, no freaking way! I am stoked just to run the 14.3, then a 14.0, ecstatic! The rest of the runs: 14.2@95.68mph, rev limiter in 1st and 2nd. 15.1@92.35, esp killed me again, took it easy! 13.975@97.02mph, nice launch,1.93 60', nice shifts! Yup, that was a 13 allright, I knew it would do it once I ran the 14.0! 14.081@95.71mph, rev limiter again, man it comes quick in 2nd and 1st! beat a tuned 1.8 TT! 14.079@96.91, beat an SRT-4! 14.194@96.00, rev limiter again! 14.169@95.56, ditto from last pass! Average 60' was a 1.92on the good passes with the DSP, hit a 1.89 as the best of the day! Anthony Dowd

Was this in your car or the R32? just curious, i doubt your car from the posted time you have on it, but just making sure that you really hit 13's with an R32

[michel]

Quote, originally posted by veedubpiranha »

Was this in your car or the R32? just curious, i doubt your car from the posted time you have on it, but just making sure that you really hit 13's with an R32

See what I mean, there are going to be a lot of doubters out there, so please post the time slip if you can.

[Mike0105]

Anthony's GTI is far faster then that, those runs he posted were with the R32. Nice runs Anthony...gotta love AWD launches!
Mike

[michel]

Quote, originally posted by VWMike81 »

Anthony's GTI is far faster then that, those runs he posted were with the R32. Nice runs Anthony...gotta love AWD launches! Mike

Thank you cannot wait to get mine, although I will not do any 1/4-mile with mine but it is nice to know.

[stomp.13]

Thats sick, yeah once the motor breaks in you "could" hit mid 13s. Also if 1/4 times are your thing, think about it if you pull the back seat, pass seat. You know alittle weight savings! I own 1.8t's and just for the record, I love VRs and wish I could get an R32. Who needs a house anyway

Modified by stomp.13 at 6:57 PM 2-15-2004

ahh my spelling is so bad


Modified by stomp.13 at 7:04 PM 2-15-2004

[veedubpiranha]

Quote, originally posted by michel »

See what I mean, there are going to be a lot of doubters out there, so please post the time slip if you can.

yeah i'm sorry i am doubting the very car i will own as soon as it's delivered here in MN, but i really didn't think hitting 13's would be possible in a stock R32, but i think it's incredible and it makes me want to get mine even more so i can start the break-in period before spring comes.

[Broken96VR6]

Quote, originally posted by michel »

Be careful on the clutch. Excellent run , maybe this 1/4-mile time will shut up some of the nay Sayers. One other thing, make sure you post your time slips for these run or else nobody won't believe it.

Considering a 1.93 60 foot time, I don't think he dumped it at 6000. AWD cars that dump it at that RPM usually get a 1.7 to 1.8 60 foot time..........

[wasbondy]

Quote, originally posted by Broken96VR6 »

Well, I guess there goes that "my chipped, down piped, inleted, p-flowed, catbacked, 14.5 running 1.8t is faster for cheaper" arguement right out the window.

You have to remember, the 1.8T's that are running mid 14's are also running closer to 100mph.

The times are great but the MPH is a little slow, just what I expected. What this means is most chipped & exhaust 1.8T's will still walk on R32's on rolling starts. I know many just chipped 1.8T's hitting 100mph, that's a 5mph difference which is huge

[El Mas Zin Ghon]

Better than I expected. I would have stopped by there if I knew someone was gonna run an R32. Plus I want to hear what the car sounds like in person, from outside. Was that SRT-4 silver with tint, with PA tags?

How many miles on the car? No plans on running mine, just curious how 'broken in' it is.

BTW - what does this say about the 0-60 times?


Modified by El Mas Zin Ghon at 7:54 PM 2-15-2004

[leftcoastvw]

[Mr. Damir]

Was this in a 100% stock R32, no seats out or nothing like that?

Good run. Still not faster than a bolt-ons 1.8T...

[Sam1.8T]

Impressive. I never thought it would hit 14 flats. One thing tho, it still traps around 96-97. So on highway it would fall behind new Z's, S2000's, SRT-4's, Z4's which traps 99-102 mph.

[NOVA337]

THANKS! great numbers for a bone stock R32! And just for the record, I used to be a nay sayer, but thanks to the R32 crowd, I shut up a long time ago Now I want one!

[euro sport]

This is great news! I can't wait to see if this thing will shave off a few tenths once it breaks in after 10k miles or so.

[Blaise]

The times are real, he ran against me. Your 20mph headwind is a bit exaggerated, since it was more like 9mph. Good runs, but I told ya in person: that money would have bought you an STi to go a second quicker with and left enough money over to buy a winter beater or two...

A few more pics:

Modified by Blaise at 10:09 PM 2-16-2004

[NOVA337]

AN STI is not 2 seconds quicker than a 13.97? I have not seen any STIs running 11.97s stock? maybe i misunderstood what you are trying to say

[WolfGTI]

Quote, originally posted by michel »

Be careful on the clutch. Excellent run , maybe this 1/4-mile time will shut up some of the nay Sayers. One other thing, make sure you post your time slips for these run or else nobody won't believe it.

I was there and saw it with my own eyes - he even ran against a friend of mine who has a chipped TT 225 - and beat him by 2/10's - R32 is awesome. - Just a sidenote - a guy was there with a stock 2004 SRT4 - he started off @ 14.0, then ran 13.8 - his best run was 13.6 @ 104.


Modified by WolfGTI at 8:38 PM 2-15-2004

[Taez]

Quote, originally posted by Blaise »

The times are real, he ran against me. Your 20mph headwind is a bit exaggerated, since it was more like 9mph. Good runs, but I told ya in person: that money would have bought you an STi to go 2 seconds quicker with and left enough money over to buy a winter beater or two... Modified by Blaise at 1:26 AM 2-16-2004

How was he going to do all that for 30k? Great times by the way.

[Blaise]

Quote, originally posted by NOVA337 »

AN STI is not 2 seconds quicker than a 13.97? I have not seen any STIs running 11.97s stock? maybe i misunderstood what you are trying to say

Brainfart.

[Broken96VR6]

Quote, originally posted by wasbondy »

You have to remember, the 1.8T's that are running mid 14's are also running closer to 100mph. The times are great but the MPH is a little slow, just what I expected. What this means is most chipped & exhaust 1.8T's will still walk on R32's on rolling starts. I know many just chipped 1.8T's hitting 100mph, that's a 5mph difference which is huge

Bwaahahahaha, there's always someone trying to make the 1.8t something it's not. I love these " but in emrgency icy road with moose deer stradling the yellow line lane change manuever, my 1.8t is faster". Face it, the only reason why people buy 1.8t's is because they couldn't afford the VR6. Everyone I know with a 1.8t wishes they had a VR6 instead. Buyers remorse will get you nowhere.........

[BlackMagicR32]

Quote, originally posted by wasbondy »

You have to remember, the 1.8T's that are running mid 14's are also running closer to 100mph. The times are great but the MPH is a little slow, just what I expected. What this means is most chipped & exhaust 1.8T's will still walk on R32's on rolling starts. I know many just chipped 1.8T's hitting 100mph, that's a 5mph difference which is huge

What are you talking about? A lower trap speed means the car is more efficient - it's acceleration is closer to linear.

[Gateway]

Stock R32, 13's

Good job bud.

Looks like 29K price tag is looking better and better.

[Daemon42]

Outstanding! Way to represent.

I'm not a big 1/4 mile guy preferring a twisty track, but I suspected that as soon as
someone put the US-Spec R32 into the hands of an expert (and you're obviously the right guy
there) we'd see the times come down from that posted by our European bretheren. Sets a
nice precident and a benchmark for others to work for.

Just out of curiosity, why didn't you turn off the ESP? Or was it just forgetting to turn it back
off after starting the car each time? There is a mod you can do to the ESP switch that
makes it turn itself off by default (uses a cap and a couple resistors) and can still be turned
on at will (basically reversed the function of the switch).

BTW.. I just noticed the temperature.. 32F. That helps.

ian



Modified by Daemon42 at 7:01 PM 2-15-2004

[Mr. Damir]

Quote, originally posted by Broken96VR6 »

Bwaahahahaha, there's always someone trying to make the 1.8t something it's not. I love these " but in emrgency icy road with moose deer stradling the yellow line lane change manuever, my 1.8t is faster". Face it, the only reason why people buy 1.8t's is because they couldn't afford the VR6. Everyone I know with a 1.8t wishes they had a VR6 instead. Buyers remorse will get you nowhere.........

Your post is stupid. Just so you know...

[Mr. Damir]

Quote, originally posted by BlackMagicR32 »

What are you talking about? A lower trap speed means the car is more efficient - it's acceleration is closer to linear.

Lower traps can also mean less power, or less power to the ground. The WRX will run mid-low 14's but with very low traps. They will beat a stock GTI 1.8T from a dig, but from a roll, they fall short. This is rather because of AWD, and not because of linear acceleration.

Modified by Mr. Damir at 2:10 AM 2-16-2004

[VentoVR6Girl]

Great times Anthony!!!
Very cool to see.

Guys lets not fight over which is better, VR6 or 1.8T, everyone has their own preference, one is not better then the other. They are both amazing engines. Everyone is so loyal to their purchases and feel the need to defend them so much that there are so many lines drawn in the VW community. The 13.9 out of a bone stock VW is impressive, no matter what motor it may be.

Its time the community stops arguing amongst itself and starts encouraging all VW drivers as a whole!

Back on topic, this car is impressing me more and more with each thread I read, I do like to drag race so these numbers make me very happy....not that I am anywhere near the driver that Anthony is, but it is nice to know the potential is there.

[AlexiGTIVR6]

, Nice times

[Nealoc187]

Quote, originally posted by BlackMagicR32 »

What are you talking about? A lower trap speed means the car is more efficient - it's acceleration is closer to linear.

I'm sorry, that is totally incorrect. A lower trap with a good ET means the car got off the line hard, but doesn't have the power to weight ratio of whatever you are comparing it to that has the same ET but a higher trap (assuming the gear ratio isn't playing a major roll in the trap speeds).

[Broken96VR6]

Quote, originally posted by Mr. Damir »

Your post is stupid. Just so you know...

The stupidity is spreading from the Mk4 forum to here, quick alet the mods..........

[Mr. Damir]

Quote, originally posted by Broken96VR6 »

The stupidity is spreading from the Mk4 forum to here, quick alet the mods..........

In that case, you should go back. They miss you.