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    Thread: DIY - Replacing timing chains, tensioners and guides on a 12v VR6

    1. 02-29-2004 01:27 PM #26
      In your picture number 12, I beleive, to access the timing chain cover, this might be a dumb question but aren't the coilpack, some hoses, thermostat housing removed?

    2. 02-29-2004 01:42 PM #27
      Quote, originally posted by gholland93 »
      In your picture number 12, I beleive, to access the timing chain cover, this might be a dumb question but aren't the coilpack, some hoses, thermostat housing removed?

      That's correct, except that the thermostat housing doesn't need to be removed.
      This DIY only covers the actual replacement of the chain parts, not the steps necessary to access the valve and timing chain covers. That's why I put this statement in the introduction ...

      "The procedure assumes that the transmission, clutch, flywheel, upper intake manifold and other small parts (coilpack, TB, airbox ...) have been removed from the car and that other steps necessary to remove these have also been performed (front end of car raised, battery disconnected, etc). The removal of these parts on a MKIV VR6 will be covered in detail in a separate DIY - a link to this DIY will be posted here when it is finished."

      Gary

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      03-01-2004 03:43 AM #28
      Again, my favorite vortexer Gary!
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    4. 03-01-2004 01:17 PM #29
      Holy crap! Whatta post! Awesome. Great. Awesomely great.
      Many, many thanks. I actually think I can do this myself now.
      God, sometimes I just love the Vortex. <sniff>
      --Griff

    5. 03-01-2004 01:50 PM #30
      WOW! Thanks so much for taking the time to document all this and post it up here. This should for sure be in the FAQ's up top. Nice work, excellent pictures, and great detail. Thank you thank you THANK YOU!!!!

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      03-01-2004 03:42 PM #31
      Great post.. i'm gonna mirror this on my site
      Check out my Garage build thread 2008.5 GTI 2.0 TSI 6MT / APR K04 V3.1, APR IC, CTS 3" turbo back, Carbonio full intake, GFB DV+, BSH TB pipe, SB Stg2 Endurance clutch, BSH mounts, DG Shortshifter, FFM bracket bushings, Forge big knob, Koni coils, Coolingmist CMGS Meth injection, USRT spacer (DO3 & Snow 100 nozzles), 19" Miro stp3's, Centric rotors, Stoptech pads and TyrolSport bushings

    7. 03-01-2004 04:06 PM #32
      Yet another great write up from Gary, thats a lot of writing and work, thanks a lot man, your write ups helped plenty to many, myself included, great job! [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG] [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG] [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

    8. 03-01-2004 04:08 PM #33
      Thanks.

    9. 03-01-2004 08:50 PM #34
      TTT

    10. 03-02-2004 12:19 PM #35
      Bump.

    11. 03-04-2004 10:06 PM #36
      Bump for those who missed it earlier this week.

    12. 03-04-2004 10:54 PM #37
      This is absolutely w/o a doubt the best DIY post I have ever read.
      Well done.

    13. 03-04-2004 11:14 PM #38
      is there gonna be a tranny removal one soon?

    14. 03-04-2004 11:31 PM #39
      man that is one very nice write-up. great job!!! [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

    15. 03-05-2004 06:52 AM #40
      Quote, originally posted by mavric &raquo;
      is there gonna be a tranny removal one soon?

      There will be at some point. I have all the necessary pics and lots of notes. I just need to find the time to do it. The DIY will be MKIV specific, but should also help everyone else out as well.
      Gary

    16. 03-21-2004 03:45 PM #41
      TTT

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      03-29-2004 03:42 PM #42
      I had seen it and knew it was good, but I finally took the time to read the whole thing (don't feel like doing any work today)
      DAMN!!!! THIS IS SO HOT. So much better than the Bentley instructions.
      Thanks, Will be doing this in a couple of mounths.
      Also, any word on the tranny removal DIY???

    18. 03-29-2004 05:38 PM #43
      The tranny DIY will be up as soon as I can find some free time. I started a new job right after putting the timing chain DIY together and have no more free time. I n other words, I haven't started on the tranny DIY yet. It should be up by the time you do your though.
      Gary

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      03-29-2004 06:11 PM #44
      Gary thanks for the timing chain DIY. Mine have been rattling for a while, but I've been too busy/skeered to do it. I figure if I can do a set of cams with just a Bentley, I can do this with your DIY Looks like I have some work to do pretty soon
      Cheers, Adrian
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    20. 03-29-2004 08:24 PM #45
      This is the greatest post ever.

    21. 04-09-2004 09:08 AM #46
      WOW WOW WOW!!! What an incredible thread . Thank you so much for taking the time to snap pictures and out this together. Now I can do this myself!!!
      I have a question pertaining to the timing mark and the possibility of the cams being 180 degrees out of phase...My motor is in apart at the moment with the head being separated from the block and no cams in the head. It is out of the car. If I install the head, and If I line up the timing mark on the block at the crank pulley. and put in the cams, lining them up with the aluminum plates, logic tells me that everything should be fine.

      Because the crank is at the proper position, I assume the pistons would be in the same place if I did another rotaion of the crank to that spot again....tell me if I'm ok with my logic.
      Thanks!


      Modified by kreuzer at 6:09 AM 4-9-2004

    22. 04-09-2004 10:56 AM #47
      Quote, originally posted by kreuzer &raquo;
      WOW WOW WOW!!! What an incredible thread . Thank you so much for taking the time to snap pictures and out this together. Now I can do this myself!!!
      I have a question pertaining to the timing mark and the possibility of the cams being 180 degrees out of phase...My motor is in apart at the moment with the head being separated from the block and no cams in the head. It is out of the car. If I install the head, and If I line up the timing mark on the block at the crank pulley. and put in the cams, lining them up with the aluminum plates, logic tells me that everything should be fine.

      Because the crank is at the proper position, I assume the pistons would be in the same place if I did another rotaion of the crank to that spot again....tell me if I'm ok with my logic.
      Thanks!

      Modified by kreuzer at 6:09 AM 4-9-2004


      You are correct. All you have to do is make sure that the three timing marks/conditions are set before putting the chains on. Set the crank pulley to the mark - this will set the pistons at the correct positons. Put the cams on a rotate them until the plate slides in the end of the shaft - this sets the valves at the correct positions. Finally, make sure the intermediate sprocket is aligned with the timing mark - this does not affect the valve or piston position, but makes sure that the chains will line up with the teeth on the camshaft and crankshaft sprockets correctly.
      The only problem I see (but am not sure since I've never had my head off) is that it may be difficult/impossible to rotate the cams into position with the head on the block and the block at #1 TDC. It makes sense to me to install the cams on the head with the head off of the block and then install the head/cams afterwards.
      Gary

    23. 04-09-2004 11:32 AM #48
      outstanding write..give me confidence to do this myself!! [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

    24. 04-09-2004 01:54 PM #49
      Great write up

    25. 04-09-2004 10:28 PM #50
      i fallowed this diy and did this job myself i am a lil bit wrench freindly and it worked out great and saved me 1500.00 bux thanx bro you are the man

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