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    Thread: NEED URGENT HELP!!!!! How to disable anti-theft on 1997 Jetta VR6

    1. 03-01-2004 02:12 AM #1
      If anyone can help me out, you will be repayed with a lifetime of good karma.

      I have a'97 Jetta VR6. Factory Anti-Theft System. (Activates with door lock, no key-fob) I'm driving today (in a crappy neighborhood) when my horn starts blaring on and off, and the hazards come on.

      WITH THE KEY IN THE IGNITION!!!! No doors were opened, nothing different happened. Just sitting at a red light, and then WHAM-O!!

      I had to get out of the car, unlock the door to deactivate. As soon as I get the key in the ignition, the LED in the door starts blinking. Every 30 seconds it starts up again. After getting sick of looking like I was playing GRAND THEFT AUTO, I got on the freeway, and after about 5 minutes, it shut off.

      I didn't dare lock my door again, but I don't want to drive around all day tomorrow and take that chance.

      I even took the HORN FUSE out, and it still blew!!

      Also another wierd thing is a few weeks ago, it stopped chirping (Horn blast for 1/4 second) when arming. Not sure if related.


      Also while in the car with ignition on, as the lights are flashing, neither windows would work. Then with key in drivers' door, PASSENGER window would roll down when disarming, and up when arming!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      I seriously think my car is possessed, and I JUST WANT TO KNOW HOW TO PREVENT THE ALARM FROM COMING BACK ON. I DON"T EVEN CARE IF IT WORKS,...I JUST WANT TO LOCK/UNLOCK THE DOORS, AND DRIVE NORMALLY.

      THANKS in advance,

      The Count


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      03-01-2004 02:24 AM #2
      Sound like you got a bad alarm module. Just get a new one. I actually have one that worked fine on my car that's not being used right now. It’s fore sale if anyone wants it. Or upgrade and get a keyless entry module. That's what I have and I love it. Other than that I can't really help you on how to disable it. Best thing I would recommend is you disconnect your battery for a few hours or maybe all night sometimes that fixes things. Kind of like a computer rebooting. If you got any question about where to get a new module e-mail at nappent@hotmail.com.
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    3. 03-01-2004 03:05 AM #3
      Thanks for the quick reply. Might look into parts later. Right now, I REALLY just need to shut it off.

      The Count


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      03-01-2004 03:11 AM #4
      The ironic thing, is that you cant just take out the alarm module and drive around. I had some alarm woes just like yours, it was in really cold weather after the car had got wet.

      believe it or not, its the little switch that is triggered by the key in the door handle that was sticking. it got wet and froze in the "arm" position, which also meant the windows were stuck down. I couldnt roll them up even by pressing the switch, because the alarm just overrides everything.

      best thing to do, is to park it in a hot garage and see if your woes go away. Since then, i havent used the actualy key to unlock my Vr because, well, its really ****ty to be in a parking lot with a car that wont move. Maybe look into getting an after market alarm if you dont want to deal with the stock one.


    5. 03-01-2004 12:07 PM #5
      Thanks. It was snowing a little yesterday, but it really wasn't THAT cold. Any other suggestions?

      The Count


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      03-01-2004 07:04 PM #6
      Did you check the connection to the module? Disconnect it and reconnect it. With the car battery unpluged.
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      03-01-2004 07:16 PM #7
      ummm completely unrelated.. but .....

      I'm The Count.. and I have been for at least 2 years roun these parts.... Sorry bub..


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      03-02-2004 12:29 AM #8
      Look in the last page of the DIY thread as I posted instructions on how to bypass it.
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    9. 03-02-2004 12:37 AM #9
      Quote, originally posted by CountBlah.. »
      ummm completely unrelated.. but .....

      I'm The Count.. and I have been for at least 2 years roun these parts.... Sorry bub..

      Hahahaha


    10. 03-02-2004 09:08 AM #10
      Where can one find this connection to the alarm module???

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      03-02-2004 10:18 AM #11
      Quote, originally posted by Count Chocula »
      Where can one find this connection to the alarm module???

      The alarm control unit is behind the headlight switch


    12. 03-02-2004 10:24 AM #12
      hahahaha
      1 vortex idiot....hahahaha...2 vortex idiots.....hahahaha
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      03-02-2004 10:39 AM #13
      Its under yor dash on the driverside, I had to do this same thing like a year or so ago, I dropped my car off at the dealer for somethin(I forget) and I get a call like 15 minutes later saying that my alarm wont shutoff, so I go down there and tell'em to fix it cuz it was fine when I dropped it off, well I ended up paying like $240 and they had my car for 2 days and they couldn't figure out the problem so I just bypassed it

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      03-02-2004 11:07 AM #14
      Quote, originally posted by CountBlah.. »
      ummm completely unrelated.. but .....

      I'm The Count.. and I have been for at least 2 years roun these parts.... Sorry bub..

      Wait......Isn't you're name Greg?


    15. 03-02-2004 11:43 PM #15
      mine used to do that after i replaced the door locks....but it would only set it on when i would hit a large bump...even then all i did was turn off the car and turn it back on..like some of my other electrical vw problems ..it just went away.......good luck

    16. 03-03-2004 02:02 AM #16
      CountBlah-

      I'm not sure why you think you're the only "COUNT" on the internet. I've used my nickname for about 8 years.

      Since I am the newb on THIS forum, I guess, I can sign with my full name.

      Next time I sign up on a forum, I'll make sure and search every single member's nickname as well as user name. WHAT WAS I THINKING!?!?!? Hope that makes you happy bub.

      The one and only Count CHOCULA


    17. 03-03-2004 02:04 AM #17
      Thanks to everyone else who actually responded. I'm going to take a stab at unplugging the alarm module tomorrow am. What am I looking for?

      Count CHOCULA


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      03-03-2004 02:34 AM #18
      The first thing I would do is disconnect the alarm horn which is in the rain tray so you don't go deaf- then try the DIY bypass
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      03-03-2004 02:41 AM #19
      countblah... you've been pickin' some nice fights lately

    20. 03-03-2004 02:49 AM #20
      welcome to VWVortex.. the sea of useless info.. lol.. and wise ass rama

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      03-03-2004 08:28 AM #21
      try opening the door from the pass side it worked for me when i had the same problem good luck

    22. 03-03-2004 12:49 PM #22
      Before I put my red top in, my old battery was dying. The alarm would go off whenever I tried to start the car, and when locking the doors, the chirp would be faint to none. If you haven't solved this problem already, check your battery! Just an idea, LMK when you learn what it was

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      03-03-2004 12:54 PM #23
      Quote, originally posted by Count Chocula »
      The one and only Count CHOCULA

      Bah!! I eat Count Chocula for breakfast


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      03-03-2004 01:08 PM #24
      hahahahaha
      Me
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    25. 03-03-2004 01:12 PM #25
      Quote, originally posted by slomofo. »
      hahahahaha

      what the hell you laughing at name stealer

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      03-03-2004 01:14 PM #26
      Quote, originally posted by slowmowfoe »

      what the hell you laughing at name stealer

      screw off thread jacker
      sometimes i feel like i'm talking to myself
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    27. 03-03-2004 04:54 PM #27
      Ok CountBlah - That was Actually funny. Touche.

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      03-03-2004 05:27 PM #28
      Quote, originally posted by CountBlah.. »
      ummm completely unrelated.. but .....

      I'm The Count.. and I have been for at least 2 years roun these parts.... Sorry bub..

      heh, i was thinkin the same


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      03-03-2004 05:31 PM #29
      Quote, originally posted by GermanTuner44 »
      Before I put my red top in, my old battery was dying. The alarm would go off whenever I tried to start the car, and when locking the doors, the chirp would be faint to none. If you haven't solved this problem already, check your battery! Just an idea, LMK when you learn what it was

      I was goign to say the same, tahts what the problem was on my ride with similar symptoms


    30. 03-03-2004 07:07 PM #30
      OK I just had the battery checked and it was fine, along with alternator (parts store), so that's not it.

      I took apart the lower dash on drivers side.... WHAT AM I LOOKING FOR AS FAR AS THE ALARM MODULE. Also WHERE IS THE HORN FOR THE ALARM? I can't seem to find anything today. Any links to diagrams?

      Thanks a million.

      Count Chocula


    31. 03-04-2004 03:31 AM #31
      Well if anybody is actually reading this anymore, I disconnected the wire to the alarm horn which is under the driver's side windshield cowling. (Small silver disc about 3 inches in diameter). Alarm is still being activated, but at least now, there is now blaring horn. Just the annoying blinking lights.

      Next question: how to stop the lights from blinking?? I tried the turnsignal fuse, and others. None stopped them.

      I know I'm doing this all back-asswards, but I am completely broke until my other house sells next week.

      Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Count Chocula


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      03-04-2004 10:55 AM #32
      Dude not trying to be a dick here, but instead of the half-ass dukes of hazard fixws.. just replace the module.. it's compatible from 1996-early 1999 and I bet you could get one for about $20


      There's a thread going about what problems your willing to live with and this is a perfect example of "fix it right the first time and you wan't have to live with anything"


    33. 03-04-2004 12:05 PM #33
      The module is a black box with two plugs going into it. It's located behind the headlight switch. You get to it by taking off the panel above your pedals and reaching up into it. My aftermarket Viper is right next to it.

      I too had the same problem with the stock alarm going off randomly. I'm going to disable it like the new DIY says but the quick fix as ghetto as it may sound is to start your car before you close your car door. The alarm arms itself when the door is closed and for some reason if the car is started before you close the doors the locks don't lock automatically and the alarm doesn't arm.


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      03-04-2004 08:37 PM #34
      Quote, originally posted by Sam6485 »
      The module is a black box with two plugs going into it...

      Mine was silver so don't go by color alone.
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      03-04-2004 08:39 PM #35
      Quote, originally posted by Count Chocula »
      I know I'm doing this all back-asswards, but I am completely broke until my other house sells next week.

      Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Count Chocula


      First, you really need a Bentley shop manual.
      Second, you could've saved yourself a butt-load of time and frustration if you would've taken the time to read the DIY method and used it. It's pretty damn simple.
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