(Pics Fixed) OK. So my entire ATP turbo kit is here: logical first steps??? TIPS??

[Big_Tom]

[Hid_Mann]

Hey Nate - What up & guess what? Eric is passing back the 01 VR6 to me in a few weeks and it looks like I'll be hip deep with a VRT build myself. Car has been in his hands since '05 when he bored it out to 2.9liter (.080 bore) and poked in 83mm JE pistons (186236 with 9:1 comp ratio).

He added new rings, stock rods/crank, rebuilt the bottom end with glyco main and rod bearings, new rod and main bolts, ARP head studs, rebuilt the head with Autotech Ti valve retainers, cleaned and re-honed both the valves/head. Also, installed DSR 256 FI cam, new timing chains/chain tensioner, new main and wear seals, Black Forest Industries Lightweight aluminum flywheel + Stage 3 six puck center sprung clutch, Black Forest Industries aluminum crack pipe, bought & installed a custom short-runner intake manifold bolted to Mk3 aluminum lower intake manifold/ Mk3 vr6 drive-by cable TB body, OBX tubular headers, 42DD straight pipe (left the Milltek 2.5" catback in place) & lot's more.

The Gti is still in Montgomery (he's in Memphis) with zero miles on the rebuild, so were going to haul it close to home to work on some more.

I'll be basically selling the Vortec V9 Supercharger that he rebuilt with abec-9 ceramic bearings and new seals from superchargerrebuilds.com. He/we still have all original mandrel bent piping intact (except flange for diverter valve as it was cut and tapped to accommodate air intake temp sensor).

Beyond that...I'm still rolling on the 20th Ann IY Gti and still have the '05 C6 as our "Grocery-go-Getter" LOL.

BTW, you still at Hilti?? Hit me up when time permits....we'll talk & catch up.

Mike

[Big_Tom]

i've been doing more research on this turbo vr stuff seems like the t04e would be kinda small so i'd probably go with a t04 60-1 P trim .70 a/r t4 undivided

400-420whp is absolute max i want

http://www.atpturbo.com/mm5/merchant...egory_Code=TBN

[nater]

Nate

[gdoggmoney]

Then I'll make up my power elsewhere. IMO its the only way to do it. By the way...this setup has been done and rerouted for close to 6 years. No stainless bath handle was used.



Nate

I hear you. I like sounding like a 747 taking off.

[nater]

It's here.
Doing work tomorrow.
44mm tial WG and new vband turbo downpipe going on soon. Old stuff coming out.


Nate

[Big_Tom]

It's here.
Doing work tomorrow.
44mm tial WG and new vband turbo downpipe going on soon. Old stuff coming out.


Nate

YUM!

[gti vr6er]

This 4 yr turbo build thread has made it apparent that I'll be having my turbo installed by a shop On another note, props for having the balls to dive straight into something u had no clue of. I hope all works out for u🍺

[nater]

The new v-band setup is all installed. New vband t04e turbo, 44mm Tial Wastegate, new atp 3" vband downpipe. This is an ATP downpipe with Tial WG with built in re-route. Hell Yea!

Turned boost up to 15psi.

[V-dubbulyuh]

How do you like the new downpipe? Performance increase over the previous?

[nater]

How do you like the new downpipe? Performance increase over the previous?

Not running yet. Plus, I turned up the boost...so any performance gains will be blamed on the turbo, not the downpipe.

[V-dubbulyuh]

so any performance gains will be blamed on the turbo, not the downpipe.

He said blame...

Keep the work coming along.

[icarusart]

I applaud you for the effort towards your VRT6 or VR6T. I currently own a VR6 and I once had a 1.8t. And maybe someday I will put a turbo in my VR6... But, wow, VW made a turbo engine for us. With all the pipes going in the right holes and everything facing the right direction. A beer for you my friend, and I'll need a six pack..

[crzygreek]

Can't wait to see how you route your intake piping/dv as I wanted to run the same orientation on my turbo (compressor on drivers side). This thread is so inspiring

[nevernotrolling1131]

And done. All 16 pages in a sitting and now I want to know how its running and what kind of power your hitting with 15 lbs. And I'm now shtiing my pants at the thought of turboing my vr6 lol. I guess I've got a detailed what/what not to do thread. Anxious to see what your putting down.

[builtvw]

this thread is very useful

[nater]

It DEFINITELY was for me. Glad it helped you too.

[nater]

On to a fab shop locally for custom intercooler piping on Tuesday.
It's getting close to getting back on the road.

[nater]

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On her way!

[vr6milz]

hows the vrt doing? any updates?

[nater]

hows the vrt doing? any updates?

Yes. Custom intercooler piping almost done. Ill let the pics speak for themselves. Sorry, iPhone pics only at this time...
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[nater]

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Moved power steering reservoir:
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Blow off valve re-route:
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[vr6milz]

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Awesome stuff ! This thread is currently helping me a lot with my vrt build ! Quick question how come I never went short runner intake manifold ?

[nater]

I actually did get a short runner (C2 Quick Flow) but it was too tight a fit with my euro radiator support, so I sold it and went this route instead.

[vr6milz]

I actually did get a short runner (C2 Quick Flow) but it was too tight a fit with my euro radiator support, so I sold it and went this route instead.

Awesome !

[jdenney741]

Saving thread for good info for my noobness and wanting to put my kit on.

[nater]

Ok,
So hoping to get this thread/discussion going again like it was back when I started it years ago...

Couple questions for you guys...
My next purchase is going to be a boost controller and wideband.

After all of these years I only have a boost gauge. No controller or wideband. But I'm looking to turn things up this time, my wastegate springs are set to 16psi right now. The car isn't running again yet but will be soon.

Obviously I'm looking to get a controller that has no spikes at all and is easy to use.
In a wideband I'm looking for something rather simple yet accurate. With a pod-style display. No boxes or anything big like that. I'm not tuning or racing with it...

Anybody have any ideas? I've got my eyes on the aem wideband and profecB boost controllers (thanks Jeff Atwood) .

And a pic as it sits now:

[24vGTiVR6]

I know you have a boost gauge already.... but I love my AEM tru-boost gauge / controller. It has all the features of a profec-b II, but it's much cleaner in terms of install - keeps the cabin nice and simple. And it's very simple to "tune". (also it's about $100 cheaper....) Granted... the profec supports ~43 psi out of the box.... but when will you ever go that high? tru-boost supports 29 psi out of the box with an optional 75psi sensor.

I went with AEM again on the wideband (UEGO). Works very well. No complaints.

[Norwegian-VR6]

AEM Uego since 2008. Easy and with no calibration or stuff like that. Just plugn/play. No issues.

[nater]

Guys,
Help requested with some heat protection. Seems my turbo oil outlet (that goes to oil pan) braided line now interferes slightly with my new ATP downpipe. It touches the flex section but only slightly.

I see a lot of heat protection sleeves at summit racing but unsure what is the right stuff to get. With exhaust temps getting extremely hot I'm unsure what will be a good form of protection. Most of them protect against radiant heat but I'm more worried about conductive heat.

Since this is a braided line I'm worried it'll get extremely hot under certain conditions.

Any ideas guys?

[Norwegian-VR6]

How has the 02M setup been working these years ? Im as happy as a rabbit with two dicks on my setup

[gdoggmoney]

Guys,
Help requested with some heat protection. Seems my turbo oil outlet (that goes to oil pan) braided line now interferes slightly with my new ATP downpipe. It touches the flex section but only slightly.

I see a lot of heat protection sleeves at summit racing but unsure what is the right stuff to get. With exhaust temps getting extremely hot I'm unsure what will be a good form of protection. Most of them protect against radiant heat but I'm more worried about conductive heat.

Since this is a braided line I'm worried it'll get extremely hot under certain conditions.

Any ideas guys?

You need to reroute that line pronto. A heat sleeve is not meant to contain contact heat, only radiated. Build a new line, and if it's sufficiently far enough (i'd say about 6-8" sideways) no sleeve necessary, if it is braided, most is good for 300-500f radiant heat.

I ran for years this way, no line degradation with the braided summit brand stuff 6" from an unwrapped glowing downpipe.

[nater]

You need to reroute that line pronto. A heat sleeve is not meant to contain contact heat, only radiated. Build a new line, and if it's sufficiently far enough (i'd say about 6-8" sideways) no sleeve necessary, if it is braided, most is good for 300-500f radiant heat.

I was kinda worried this would have to be my solution. Looks like ill need a 90 degree fitting and new line (a little longer) to get it out of the way of this downpipe. Ill post pics of what I pick up. I may end of going with ATP as the summit site is a bit confusing for those fittings. Thanks!

How has the 02M setup been working these years ? Im as happy as a rabbit with two dicks on my setup

I can't believe how long its been! But honestly I haven't driven the car in 4.5 years so I can't say its been holding up to constant abuse! But yea, it was the best thing I ever did (after the motor/turbo setup)!

[V-dubbulyuh]

Ok,
So hoping to get this thread/discussion going again like it was back when I started it years ago...

Obviously I'm looking to get a controller that has no spikes at all and is easy to use.
In a wideband I'm looking for something rather simple yet accurate. With a pod-style display. No boxes or anything big like that. I'm not tuning or racing with it...

Anybody have any ideas? I've got my eyes on the aem wideband and profecB boost controllers (thanks Jeff Atwood) .

Boost controller:
Profec B Spec 2 - Complete joke for being intuitive - installation manual/user's guide is garbage, user interface is a waste of time (display of units and inconsistency from one menu to the other), much of the general terminology is poor (eg Start Boost is the parameter but the display is actually Set Gain) however once setup correctly works very well. Large range of capabilities for a decent price when compared to its competitors. Ability to record peak boost and reduce during overboost, very helpful. Gain function actually does something. Tend to use this controller a lot on most of my setups but have a Type S for my daily.

Type S - very intuitive, less bells 'n whistles gets the job done effectively equally as responsive as the Profec B.

Wideband:
AEM or Innovate MTX (I am more inclined to the Innovate though because of all the widebands I am familiar with this appears to read more close to dyno widebands and the wiring/setup is a breeze).

Oil Line
Like the guys already stated, reroute.
Post a pic of what you have.

[nater]

Like the guys already stated, reroute.
Post a pic of what you have.

Well, what I have is the atp straight 18" oil return "kit". 10 AN straight fittings and 18" braided line.
What I just ordered was:
Custom ATP drain line (-10 braided line 20" long with 2 90 degree bends at each end)
1/2" NPT (45 degree) to -10 AN (2 in case I need them)

I'm not sure exactly what ill need until I get them. I will keep you guys posted.
45 degree fittings.
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