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    Thread: (Pics Fixed) OK. So my entire ATP turbo kit is here: logical first steps??? TIPS??

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      05-07-2004 09:23 AM #51
      Coolant in/out doesn't matter.
      My turbo is an "OEM" turbo, not a turbonetics casting which you probably have. In your case NPT fittings will probably spin right in. Home Depot!

    2. 05-07-2004 11:32 AM #52
      Quote, originally posted by nater »
      anybody know where I can source these fittings? As simple as hitting The Home Depot or any local hardware store? Or is this more of a specialty item?
      Later,

      HD should have everything you need, if not there is a place called Nyco in Souderton that carries all the fitting and clamps you will ever need. Its the only place I goto for hardware [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

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      05-07-2004 03:06 PM #53
      I just stummbled upon this thread.....didn't want to read all 2 pages.....but did anyone suggest throwing away the ATP software yet? Sorry I had to, congrats on the purchase though. Enjoy the rush [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

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      05-07-2004 03:31 PM #54
      Nater:
      Join our club, look in my signature.
      Want picturs: http://swankhouse.com/ipw-web/gallery/album10
      IM me if you want any help, I just did this whole process about three weeks ago...and still working on it. I blew up my first turbo (because it was ****) and now I am finally running. It is fun, and just know, it is all worth it.
      Good luck.
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      05-07-2004 04:09 PM #55
      Quote, originally posted by 2kjettaguy »
      Coolant in/out doesn't matter.
      My turbo is an "OEM" turbo, not a turbonetics casting which you probably have. In your case NPT fittings will probably spin right in. Home Depot!

      That's where I got my coolant set up from!! Fit great!

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      05-07-2004 04:44 PM #56
      Ryan,
      I just joined. Same username....
      posted up a "newbie" thread...
      See you there.
      I'm gonna go back to work on the car.
      Will take some pics.
      Later,

    7. 05-07-2004 05:21 PM #57
      cool going over to the site.

    8. 05-07-2004 05:54 PM #58
      With no fear of sounding like a noob to the turbo world, I have a question. In the first pic where you show your turbo and how it's going to mount to the manifold, you say it needs to be clocked 180 degrees. I was going to mount mine the exact way you show, without clocking it first. I'm going to be running a non Intercooled setup for awhile so I figured that be the way to go seeing as its a short route to the TB. If someone could tell me if this is ok or not would be great. Thanks

    9. 05-07-2004 06:12 PM #59
      Quote, originally posted by 95GLS »
      With no fear of sounding like a noob to the turbo world, I have a question. In the first pic where you show your turbo and how it's going to mount to the manifold, you say it needs to be clocked 180 degrees. I was going to mount mine the exact way you show, without clocking it first. I'm going to be running a non Intercooled setup for awhile so I figured that be the way to go seeing as its a short route to the TB. If someone could tell me if this is ok or not would be great. Thanks

      yep, thats the way to do it for low boost non-intercooled [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

    10. 05-07-2004 07:27 PM #60
      Quote, originally posted by nater »
      Nice,
      So it's easlier than I thought!!!!
      Thanks bro!
      Now,
      anybody know where I can source these fittings? As simple as hitting The Home Depot or any local hardware store? Or is this more of a specialty item?
      Later,

      The coolant holes on the T4 that I got from Killa were 16mm x 1.5mm. I used 16mm x 1.5mm to -6an. That is a horrible thread for liquid. I have 10 to 12 layers of teflon tape and they still leak a little.

    11. 05-07-2004 08:03 PM #61
      Quote, originally posted by MunKyBoy »
      yep, thats the way to do it for low boost non-intercooled [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

      thanx munky. I realized that in order for my downpipe to work correctly (ATP 2.5" T3/T4) I need to have the turbine on the right side (assuming you are looking at it from the front of the car). This means I need to clock the turbo in order to have the compressor outlet point straight up. How do you clock a turbo? Is it as easy as loosening the bolts and rotating the housing or is there more involved? Some insight on my problem would be great. Thanx guys

    12. 05-07-2004 08:08 PM #62
      yup there are 3 sets of bolts on the turbo.. one set you loosen to clock the compressor, one set to clock the exhaust housing, and one set to clock the oil/coolant ports.. at least that was the way it was for me.. Just loosen the bolts on the cold side and it should slide right around.. you don't even have to loosen them that much to get it to spin freely

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      05-07-2004 10:59 PM #63
      OK...
      So, here's the update with lots and lots of pictures....
      My water pipe (aka "crack pipe") broke so I had to install a new one.
      Here's a pic of me cleaning off the thermostat housing:

      I installed my waterpipe (shown here attached to the thermostat housing with some grease sprayed around the outside by the seals...

      before I re-installed the thermo housing:

      I actually had to pull the waterpipe back out again b/c it was easier to do what I did in the picture above this one and hook them together then push the assembly in as one. This way I was able to line up the "nipples" and stuff with the thermo housing...
      Oh yea, had my oil pan welded today from my buddy. It looked like it would never leak any oil but I am a freakin pessimist so I threw some atv sealant around the outside just to be sure .

      I installed my nice and clean (but old) thermostat housing:

      Just snapping the thermo housing back into place along with the waterpipe in one motion:

      This shot shows everything back together AND also gives you an idea of how I routed the oil feed line...You could probably do it a million different ways but since I had a long line I figured this would be the best way...

      Just another shot:

      Ok,
      So, I'm ready to start my i/c install...
      I put my bumper/rebar back on (by accident). I realized after the fact that I should probably have left it off...But it was nice starting to see the car look like a car again ...


      I started to cut but using my recip saw I effin cut into my a/c condensor...
      Here's what happens when you aren't careful with your sawzall:


      No a/c now...was thinking of just pulling it all out but I'll just replace my condensor at a later point...

      Did a crapload of cutting and here's what I ended up with:

      Now it's starting to take shape!!!
      I actually almost have the bumper back on but forgot to take pics (was in a serious groove with the dremel tool).
      This part is a PITA and I think I've cut too much in a couple spots. To me, it looks pretty bad...but we'll see. I'll post up pics of the bumper once I get the entire thing put together...
      Thanks for looking guys...
      Will continue to post up on this thread as my project progresses!!!!
      Later,



      Modified by nater at 11:03 PM 5-7-2004
      Last edited by nater; 07-05-2010 at 06:05 PM.

    14. 05-07-2004 11:18 PM #64
      totally awsome.

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      05-07-2004 11:55 PM #65
      Looks great. I started with an air grinder on the bumper, then just took it to my exhaust guy to cut out for me. Took 2 mins, and $20. Well worth it. I cut a lot of my bumper away too:
      I'm thinkin SoFarKingFast may be right...
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    16. 05-08-2004 01:03 AM #66
      This for sure needs a sticky.
      Awesome info guys!

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      05-08-2004 12:56 PM #67
      OK,
      So I've starting routing my plumbing...I don't have pics yet (give me til tomorrow)...
      Basically, what do I have to do to get my turbo inlet and the large elbow to clear my a/c (whatever those two lines are going into the firewall)...
      I've pulled the little box off that seems to protect them a bit and started yanking at them and bending them away...
      But it's still a tight fit. Is this the way it's supposed to be? Any tips?
      And another thing, there is a canister of sorts which is associated with the a/c compressor via a/c lines (with the two bolts that are attached to the frame behind the passenger side headlight area)...I disconnected the lines going in and out (if you see above I already accidentally drained my freon with the sawzall)...where can I move that silver canister to????
      I'll post pics later but I know you all knwo what I'm talking about w/o pics...
      Help!!!

      Later,

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      05-08-2004 01:03 PM #68
      Actually,
      Here's the pic (from the first page) of my a/c lines by the firewall and how they are too close to the inlet of the turbo:

      Is it just as simple as bending these lines until they are sufficiently out of the way?
      I mean, short of pulling out the a/c alltogether.
      Later,
      Last edited by nater; 07-05-2010 at 06:06 PM.

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      05-08-2004 01:22 PM #69
      Ok guys,
      So I lied...here's more pics from what I did this morning (not much but good to document, I suppose):
      Self-expressive...i guess. TB plumbing...

      Close-up of the a/c lines that I had to bend (notice the one on the right that I bent into the one on the left - but the left one doesn't budge. I still need to complete this as there still is not enough space for the elbow to attach to the turbo: help

      This is a nice shot that shows how I (now, I was guessing what I needed to do as I've got no direction) ran the plumbing from the i/c to the throttle body. Anybody that sees anything wrong or that is important to point out PLEASE SPEAK UP AS THIS THREAD IS FOR OTHERS TO SEE LATER...

      Another shot, but here's my question: where the heck do I put that a/c canister that is out of the way (now) on the bumper (the silver thing)?

      A cool shot from above the car...

      The pics are here so you can help me but also others as well when they do their turbo...so please chime in with any and all relevant info!!!!!
      Thanks guys!
      Later,
      Last edited by nater; 07-05-2010 at 06:07 PM.

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      05-08-2004 01:45 PM #70
      Looking good.
      Definitely pick up the WG gaskets with the fire ring; the pair supplied by Tial are complete junk and will burn through. I have also heard of people having good luck with running no gasket, just the fire ring.
      APtuning and ATP both carry the gaskets, as well as http://www.import-parts.com
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      05-09-2004 08:48 PM #71
      nater - good luck with everything. looks like your almost complete. keep us updated, as thsi has helped me with a lot of my questions that i know i will have soon.
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      05-09-2004 09:00 PM #72
      Thanks Mike.
      The main reason for this thread and all the pics is b/c I know this is such an unknown territory for me, and I just dove right in and did it. While I'm not done - and it hasn't been easy...the point is, that if I can do it than many others can...
      So, I'll try and take pics on every step I take and try to keep them from going to red X's so that others can learn before they get started on their turbo vr6 project

      Later,

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      05-12-2004 07:18 PM #73
      Guys,
      What's this "nipple" sticking out of the last pipe that goes up and into the turbo (the first pipe out of the turbo going towards the inlet of the i/c???
      My guess is you just need to cap it off, right?
      So, WHAT DO I USE TO CAP IT OFF AND WHERE CAN I GET IT???
      Here's the pic (it's the only 'nipple' you can see sticking out):

      Thanks guys...
      Later,
      Last edited by nater; 07-05-2010 at 06:08 PM.

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      05-12-2004 07:43 PM #74
      Home Depot sell rubber pipe caps... look hard and youll find them.
      I think that the nipple in question though is supposed to either re-route the BOV - OR - what about the crankcase breather?

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      05-12-2004 08:59 PM #75
      Quote, originally posted by 2kjettaguy »
      Home Depot sell rubber pipe caps... look hard and youll find them.
      I think that the nipple in question though is supposed to either re-route the BOV - OR - what about the crankcase breather?

      I dunno...
      What about the crankcase breather????
      Doesn't it just go back to "stock" the way it was hooked up before?

      Later,

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