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    1. Moderator Sloth's Avatar
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      06-23-2004 12:19 AM #101
      For sure, but McLaren will rock next yr with Kimi and Montoya !! [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG] [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]
      Quattro drivers do it on all fours....

    2. 06-23-2004 07:56 AM #102
      Unless JMP goes in thinking he is lead driver.... The iceman vs the assman....
      Last time big rivalry which was entertaining occurred was senna and that french guy.... This new teaming has the potential.... Have you seen Kimi manhandle those officials?

    3. Member Mick K.'s Avatar
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      07-02-2004 10:02 AM #103
      Raining in both Friday practice sessions.
      Could be an interesting grid / race if the rain keeps up.
      Ralf Schumacher out for rest of the season, replaced initially by test driver Marc Gene', but may be a chance for Webber to move to Williams early.
      Set the video / coffee machine for 10:30 Sunday night.

    4. 07-02-2004 06:33 PM #104
      cr@p.. going to miss the race this sunday cause of work but there are some advantages......

      received this in the office yesterday...
      Da Mattas Race Suit!
      Im working in the production of F1 comes to Regent St so i'll get an all areas access pass to the event next tuesday... hopefully I will have time to take plenty of pics

    5. 07-02-2004 09:45 PM #105
      Should be a great race... Raikkonens comments:
      "We only did one run today because of the weather, which is a shame. However the car felt good, but that is all I can say at the moment. There is definitely more to come as I didn't even push particularly hard. It's difficult to say how big a step forward we have taken, but it should become clear as the weekend progresses."

      Cant wait til Sunday night.

    6. Member mdt's Avatar
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      07-02-2004 10:25 PM #106
      Excellent. [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG] Do you get to keep them?
      "Sorry boss, the race suit didn't make it."

    7. 07-03-2004 06:04 AM #107
      it's for a charity auction... and the boss took it away for safe keeping on the weekend...

    8. 07-04-2004 03:45 AM #108
      Interesting grid for tonite!!!
      Fernando Alonso, Renault (1st, 1m 13.698s):
      Michael Schumacher, Ferrari (2nd, 1m 13.971s):
      David Coulthard, McLaren (3rd, 1m 13.987s):
      Jenson Button, BAR (4th, 1m 13.995s):
      Jarno Trulli, Renault (5th, 1m 14.070s):
      Juan Pablo Montoya, Williams (6th, 1m 14.172s):
      Takuma Sato, BAR (7th, 1m 14.240s):
      Marc Gene, Williams (8th, 1m 14.275s):
      Kimi Raikkonen, McLaren (9th, 1m 14.346s):
      Rubens Barrichello, Ferrari (10th, 1m 14.478s):
      Cristiano da Matta, Toyota (11th, 1m 14.553s):
      Mark Webber, Jaguar (12th, 1m 14.798s):
      Christian Klien, Jaguar (13th, 1m 15.065s):
      Olivier Panis, Toyota (14th, 1m 15.130s):
      Giancarlo Fisichella, Sauber (15th, 1m 16.177s):
      Felipe Massa, Sauber (16th, 1m 16.200s):
      Nick Heidfeld, Jordan (17th, 1m 16.807s):
      Giorgio Pantano, Jordan (18th, 1m 17.642s):
      Gianmaria Bruni, Minardi (19th, 1m 17.913s):
      Zsolt Baumgartner, Minardi 20th, 1m 18.247s):

      Heard today that the collision of Ralfs was at 320kmh, and the g's were up aroung the 72 mark... It wouldnt surprise me if he retired after that!!! Cmon Williams and Webber...

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      07-04-2004 10:37 AM #109
      72 g's! bloardy hell!
      I'm sick of seeing F1 races finish like this one.
      Spolier in white:
      Races shouldn't come down to the nerdlinger with the best strategy. F1 needs more passing
      Quote Originally Posted by alleghenyman
      Is it weird that I want to cram into the back seat in cycling clothes and feel the mechanical vibrations as you tear around the Outback?

    10. 07-04-2004 11:15 AM #110
      I think Schumacher did earn that win - things were looking difficult, so they came up with a strategy and Schumacher made it work for them by going fast when he needed to.
      Barrichello barging onto the podium...
      Sato's engine again!
      Both McLarens home, and with decent pace to match the frontrunner teams.

    11. 07-04-2004 05:35 PM #111
      Ferrari just too DAmn good.. Barichello's pass, Brauns strategy and Schumies execution of it... Too good. Not a totally enjoyable GP, but damn hes good. Glad to see McClaren back amongst it. Hope Gene's performance opens the door for Webber..

    12. Member Mick K.'s Avatar
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      07-05-2004 08:58 AM #112
      Rumors are going around that Eddie Jordan has sold majority share of his F1 team to Audi.
      Don't know how likely that is since Audi's dominance of sports car racing (eg: Le Mans) would be better for the company image than being at the back of the grid of F1.
      Maybe there'll be a Seat or Skoda badge on an F1 car?

    13. 07-05-2004 07:30 PM #113
      I don't know what you guys are saying. I thoroughly enjoyed the race and every race this year. Ferrari is in top form and will probably stay that way for the rest of the year, everyone needs to accept that and the other teams need to find something new in thier development to combat this demolition.
      I have never seen so many people talk down of F1 just because Ferrari is dominating. Before 1998 Ferrari hadn't won a constructors title for 20 years now that they are on top look at everyone comment.
      How quickly we forget the decade of domination Williams and Mclaren had in the 80's and 90's. I never heard people talk of F1 back then like they do now.
      My response isn't based on comments just made in this forum but elsewhere as well. Face the facts Ferrari is on top dominating with a vengence. If you don't like it don't watch it. But putting slures on Ferrari because of thier success is just weak.
      I have been watching F1 for almost 25 years and have been a loyal tifosi even through the lean years. So what it there left to say GO FERARRI GO!! Perpetuate the phenomina and keep breaking records. Do it while you can because it won't last for ever.
      Feel better know. Thanks for watching.
      Keep it on the road.

    14. 07-05-2004 07:44 PM #114
      some photos of the F1 trucks arriving in London.... more to come tomorrow

      Modified by 2.4 V6 at 10:46 AM 7-6-2004

    15. 07-05-2004 07:45 PM #115
      I agree Walter.
      What do you expect when you put a great driver with a great Team!
      To have done an extra pit stop and get to the lead shows that it's not only the technology of the motorcar that wins races.
      Check these photos out!

      Yes it's a real Ferrari F1 car from 1986 driven by Alboreto

    16. Member YellowDieselGolf's Avatar
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      07-05-2004 08:02 PM #116
      I don't mind that Ferrari wins. They seem to be the best team at the moment.
      The part that annoys me, is that it all seems to be happening in pit lane. I'd rather see Schumacher overtake someone on a tight corner.
      Quote Originally Posted by alleghenyman
      Is it weird that I want to cram into the back seat in cycling clothes and feel the mechanical vibrations as you tear around the Outback?

    17. 07-05-2004 08:19 PM #117

      1 for you ferrari fans....
      but i gotta say all the other teams bring their full size trailers but ferrari brings a regular size truck.. kinda dissapointing

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      07-06-2004 06:49 AM #118
      Quote, originally posted by YellowDieselGolf »
      I don't mind that Ferrari wins. They seem to be the best team at the moment.
      The part that annoys me, is that it all seems to be happening in pit lane. I'd rather see Schumacher overtake someone on a tight corner.

      Spot on Petey. [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]
      And Wal, I remember the lean years for Ferrari too. It took considerable commitment for Schuey to stick with them through the tough times, but he did and he is still the most successful driver in F1 history.
      Did you hear Martin Brundle say last Sunday how Schumacher talks to Ross Brawn constantly throughout the race? And how at Imola, Schumacher changed the brake balance on his car for the chicane every lap? The guy's a freak. There's no doubt we are watching history in the making. And I like that.
      But F1 is not what is used to be because Bernie won't take away the billboards at the rear of each car and they can't get close to each other any more without getting "dirty air".
      Compare the way that the Formula Fords drive up each other's clacker. Let's reintroduce ground effects!

      Modified by mdt at 11:51 AM 7-6-2004

    19. 07-06-2004 07:36 AM #119
      I have to agree with your comments Matt. F1 needs to change so that the racing is more competitive and one simple way to do is to get rid of the ground effects devices I was actually thinking about this whilst watching the race. It would be simpe enough to reduce the size of the front and rear wings. This would reduce the speed of the cars and the turbulance you mention. Or better still reduce the design variables that affect aero dynamics engineering. In effect it would be slowing the cars down but should make for more interesting racing. Just some idea's are any of the F1 directors listening?

    20. 07-06-2004 07:48 AM #120
      I dont recall slurring Ferrari either.... I was actually hoping Schui would beat Alonso (must be the German in me). He is unequivically the best driver out there atm, and possibly of all time. I agree with what Matt and Pete said.
      I reckon go back to one make of tyre, too. I liked the idea of one set of tyres for the whole race and 3 for the weekend, which was mentioned during the race on Sunday. Other than that, the ground effects arguement is solid, too...

    21. 07-06-2004 08:11 AM #121

      I reckon Walter is spot on with his comments. I am a Ron Dennis fan and I remember when they were unbeatable it was the same, everyone bagged them.
      Even locally, when Dick Johnson won everything with a Sierra, then Fred Gibsons team with the Skylines..........everyone likes to bag a winning team.
      As far as drivers go, Shui is definately one of the best he just blots his copy book with some poor sportsmanship sometimes, but then so did Senna and I reckon he is best I am likely to see.
      Its hard to know how to make the sport better to watch, personally I rarely watch due to the lack on passing, maybe removing the wings or changing the undertray to reduce downforce is the way I dont know. Then again there is the argument that F1 is the pinnacle and technology shouldnt be handicapped.
      I know one thing, I am very keen to see Mark Webber in a competitive, reliable car it should be great to watch [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

    22. 07-07-2004 03:10 PM #122
      my photos from F1 in london...
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      Toyota engine test vid (turn up your speakers!)
      Ferrari engine test vid

    23. Member Mick K.'s Avatar
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      07-08-2004 08:36 AM #123
      There are some more candid shots of the F1s in London here...

    24. 07-08-2004 03:55 PM #124
      woohoo.. if you look closely at the photo of the Toyota returning the the paddock area you can see me running off, just left to the guy in the yellow reflective jacket! (I'm in the Khaki shirt) He was the production manager I was working for.

    25. 07-10-2004 09:21 PM #125
      Yeah, baby... got a message from Jimmy last night re: Raikkonens pole!!!! Cheers jimbo, we are back in business!!! [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG] Here are the ressults: I left in the quotes cos I thought Barichellos and Schumackers were interesting...
      Kimi Raikkonen, McLaren (1st, 1m 18.233s):
      "We ran the MP4-19B for the first time during a test here at Silverstone six weeks ago and the car has continued to improve and now it has started to show its real potential. The balance has been very good throughout the weekend, and we should have a strong car for tomorrow's race. We have had a disappointing first half of this season, but the entire team has worked extremely hard to regain competitiveness. This pole position is a reward for all their efforts and late nights."
      Rubens Barrichello, Ferrari (2nd, 1m 18.305s):
      “I did run wide deliberately at Vale to get a slower time in pre-qualifying. It seemed a nicer way of doing it than just going slowly. I don’t see anything wrong with what I and many other drivers did. It is the result of the qualifying format. In a situation like this you have to be selfish and think of your strategy. I think we need to make the format better. I am happy with my second place, although my car started to slide in the final sector which is where I lost pole. I think I can have a very strong race as the car is good on full tanks and the Bridgestone tyres are performing well.”
      Jenson Button, BAR (3rd, 1m 18.580s):
      "It’s good to qualify third for our home race. Obviously we would have liked to have been on pole here but third is a good position to start the race from. As is often the case, it’s difficult to know what strategies everyone else is running, so I’m quite pleased to be where we are. The car has been handling much better than yesterday. We’re not 100% happy with it after all the positive testing we have done here, but I think strategy-wise we’re in good shape for the race. Today has been a tough one to call weather-wise and I think it will be the case again tomorrow. My target now is a podium and playing my part in a solid team result in front of our home crowd."
      Michael Schumacher, Ferrari (4th, 1m 18.710s):
      “It was an interesting session and for strategic reasons we chose not to look too good in pre-qualifying. However, in qualifying the conditions remained much the same and I had a good lap. Of course, being second and fourth is not the ideal situation, but we will have to wait for the race to see how things work out. We know it is a long race tomorrow and our car and Bridgestone tyres are good over a race distance. Actually we were right about the rain, but the circuit seemed to be in the wrong place!”
      Jarno Trulli, Renault (5th, 1m 18.715s):
      "I did my best on the lap: the car was well balanced, but a lost some time in the first sector through Becketts. After that though, I managed to claw some time back in the second, and then did very well in the third sector. It was windy, but I don't think it was much different for me than the other drivers. I am pleased with fifth, and we now need to say how the strategies play out tomorrow."
      Fernando Alonso, Renault (6th, 1m 18.811s):
      "It was a day of two halves for me. My problem this morning was bad luck and it is disappointing, but I can't do anything about it now. In terms of qualifying, I found the wind very difficult and the car balance was changing in every corner, but I also knew that with the grid penalty, I really had to push. I didn't leave any margin for error, and took quite a lot of risks - it would have been easy to make a mistake. Tomorrow, I think I will need some unusual incident in the race or unpredictable weather to finish high up, but I will still be looking to score points."
      David Coulthard, McLaren (7th, 1m 19.148s):
      "It was not an easy qualifying due to the windy conditions. I lost a lot of time through Becketts and as a result I was not quick in the middle sector. We have chosen the right tyres, but as this is a high-speed circuit where you need a good result in qualifying and I'm a little disappointed with my performance. However, I will go flat out tomorrow and do my very best to score as many points a possible."
      Juan Pablo Montoya, Williams (8th, 1m 19.378s):
      “Before starting my final qualifying lap, I saw Marc had a very nervous car and I was expecting the same. In fact, I realised immediately - at turn one - that my car was also difficult to drive and I decided to be a bit careful. With such inconsistent wind conditions, it’s very difficult to predict what the car is going to do. I am a bit disappointed with my qualifying position, of course, because prior to the qualifying session both Marc and I had done a good job and had a very good balanced car, but despite this afternoon’s conclusion, I believe we’ve got a very good race car and we can realistically aim for a good finish.”
      Takuma Sato, BAR (9th, 1m 19.688s):
      "I feel that we have a good strategy for tomorrow so I’m reasonably happy with my lap time. Everybody was gambling with the weather in pre-qualifying and we were hoping that it would pay off in the final run. Silverstone is a circuit where I have many memories from my Junior Formula days, so I would really like to have a strong race tomorrow. However, the changeable weather will make for an interesting race and of course we hope that we can make the best of our strategy in front of the team’s home crowd."
      Mark Webber, Jaguar (10th, 1m 20.004s):
      “I am pleased with my qualifying time today and my grid position for tomorrow's race. The car is feeling good around here and the team has done an excellent job in preparing the R5. There was a small amount of oversteer on corners 11 and 12 but generally my lap was good and error free. The wind always plays a part here and I could feel it starting to pick up between the two sessions but everyone is in the same boat so we just have to make do with what we get weather wise. We have a good strategy in place tomorrow and I am looking forward to starting the race. I like racing here and I think that we will have a good battle ahead of us.”
      Felipe Massa, Sauber (11th, 1m 20.202s):
      "It's unbelievable! I have told Panis that I cannot understand what he was doing. He must have seen me, and even if he didn't, he had to know at the speed he was going that another car would be coming up behind him soon. The team should have been telling him. Fine, if you are going slowly to save fuel, brake on the straight and keep out of the way. He didn't do that. He was in the way, and he braked on my line. Without that I could have been ninth. I'm very disappointed because the car was very good today, and the balance was not too bad. It's really not fair."
      Olivier Panis, Toyota (12th, 1m 20.335s):
      "I am obviously very disappointed and upset that my time in qualifying was cancelled. I pushed very hard and did the best that I could with the car. With the strategy we have in place for tomorrow, I think we performed well. A mistake in communication from the team meant that I only saw Massa late, but I immediately moved over and offline. I am sorry for the Sauber team because it was not intentional and I did all I could not to impede his lap. I am very annoyed at the decision from the stewards. Tomorrow's race will now be very hard, but I will push all the way as I always do."
      Marc Gene, Williams (13th, 1m 20.335s):
      “The pre-qualifying session was a bit unusual today, but what counts is the final qualifying result, but I didn’t have a good lap at all. I was quite quick in this morning’s practice and I was confident I could achieve a good grid position in qualifying. However, this afternoon my car was much more difficult to drive than I anticipated. I could feel it was very windy and I could barely keep the car on the track - the weather conditions had changed a lot from this morning.”
      Cristiano da Matta, Toyota (14th, 1m 20.545s):
      "I think we should be quite content with the results of my qualifying today. The pace we had this afternoon is more or less what we have had all weekend. I had a bit more understeer and struggled more on the slower speed parts of the track, but on the other hand, the car handled better on the high speed compared to this morning's practice. The weather in Britain is very changeable and unpredictable, but I hope it stays dry for the race. If we have some luck, I think we could pick up a couple of points."
      Christian Klien, Jaguar (15th, 1m 21.559s):
      “This morning was a good practice session for us as we worked hard on our balance and general set-up of the car ahead of qualifying. Going into qualifying this afternoon I went slow in the first session to make sure that I could go out early in the second session and avoid any potential rain. My qualifying lap was not great for me and I am slightly disappointed with my time. I really pushed too hard and when you push too hard it costs you time, I also made a couple of minor errors all of which cost me some tenths. We have been working hard on our race strategy so I will be doing what I can tomorrow to move up the grid and race for points at the team's home Grand Prix.”
      Giorgio Pantano, Jordan (16th, 1m 22.458s):
      “I’m kind of pleased with my lap but I made a mistake in the second sector at Abbey and if it wasn’t for that I would have been a bit quicker. I was slightly nervous about the weather before going out as I went out late and we were concerned about rain - but I was fortunate. We have done quite a lot of testing here so I’m confident with the track and also with the car. Tomorrow we have a good set-up for the race, I think. It would be good for the team and the fans if we got a good result here. Last night I went to the Jordan fan village at the factory and it was fantastic to see how much support we have and I really enjoyed meeting fans. I’m going back for another quick visit this evening.”
      Nick Heidfeld, Jordan (17th, 1m 22.677s):
      “I’m not really satisfied with my lap: I got some graining on the tyres towards the end and therefore missed the apex on one of the corners, losing quite a bit of lap time. Our forecast said there was a high chance of rain during qualifying and I was hoping it would, as I went out early in the session. We are in good shape, definitely better than Magny Cours. We did a long run yesterday and a few weeks ago we tested and sorted out our tyres. We are better prepared and happier with the tyre choice.”
      Gianmaria Bruni, Minardi (18th, 1m 23.437s):
      "For me, it was generally a good lap. It should have been faster, but I lost a couple of tenths in the Complex. To be honest, like everyone on the team, I wasn't feeling great after the news this morning. I hope I can get my mind clear tomorrow and do a good race for John."
      Zsolt Baumgartner, Minardi (19th, 1m 24.117s):
      "Today is a very sad day for all the team. I have mixed feelings about my qualifying performance. Probably, I could have achieved a better qualifying lap time this afternoon, considering the quicker runs I did this morning, but unfortunately, I made a couple of mistakes. The guys did a fantastic job today, particularly between the two sessions this afternoon, when they had to fix a problem with an anti-roll bar, which was not so easy. Now we'll aim for a good race tomorrow."
      Giancarlo Fisichella, Sauber (20th, no time):
      "We elected to stay in the pits because of my engine penalty, saving the tyres and the fuel. If I had a choice for tomorrow, I'd like it to rain!"

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