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    Thread: '99 VW Passat - Broken Timing Belt

    1. 07-03-2004 07:55 PM #1
      My '99 Passat has 71,000 miles. Last night the timing belt broke. The dealership is telling me the estimate to fix the car is probably $4,000 - $5,000. In the maintenance book it says to replace the timing belt at 80,000 miles. Is this a common problem with the Passat? Could it possibly be under the powertrain warranty? Are there any recalls on the Passat with faulty timing belts? It seems like a fairly big deal if a timing belt breaks before it's schedule replacement. Any help would be greatly appreciated. $4K-$5K to fix the engine is well beyond our means. Thanks!

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      07-03-2004 08:15 PM #2
      Mike, are you the original owner? If so, should be covered under the 10/100,000 drivetrain warranty that came with the 99 Passats. Hopefully, you will be able to demonstrate to the dealer your service documentation for oil changes and 40K service. Hope all works out!

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      07-03-2004 08:17 PM #3
      Look in your book again. The 99 manual said nothing about change intervals for the 1.8T. It is covered by warranty though.

    4. 07-03-2004 08:59 PM #4
      Definately should be covered if you're the original owner. I know my '03 calls for CHECKING the timing belt at 60,000. If you have all your service records and they won't warranty the work, ask to speak to the regional VW rep about it. If anything they may cover labor or part of the labor.

    5. 07-04-2004 04:46 PM #5
      mine went at 80k.

      VW faxed me a maintenance schedule showing the belt on my 1.8t to be changes at 105k, with an inspection at 40 and 80 (I think)
      It was actually the tensioner that failed on mine.

      The dealer replaced the tensioner and belt under the 10/100 warranty. No charge to me.


    6. 07-04-2004 04:47 PM #6
      I they don't cover it, Perhaps you can save money by getting a new (low mileage used?) engine installed. $4k-$5k sounds a bit pricey for a repaired engine.

    7. 07-04-2004 05:07 PM #7
      Quote, originally posted by evlgreg »
      mine went at 80k.

      VW faxed me a maintenance schedule showing the belt on my 1.8t to be changes at 105k, with an inspection at 40 and 80 (I think)
      It was actually the tensioner that failed on mine.

      The dealer replaced the tensioner and belt under the 10/100 warranty. No charge to me.


      I myself have a '99 and what "evlgreg" mentioned is exactly what my '99 owners manual stats as-well. You have to be careful with what the dealership mentions because that is a big expense and of course they probably don't want to fix it because of the time it will take. Good luck.

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      07-05-2004 09:13 AM #8
      Quote, originally posted by glxpassat »

      I myself have a '99 and what "evlgreg" mentioned is exactly what my '99 owners manual stats as-well. You have to be careful with what the dealership mentions because that is a big expense and of course they probably don't want to fix it because of the time it will take. Good luck.

      Not to mention that warranty work pays less to the dealership than a customer pay job.


    9. 07-06-2004 12:16 AM #9
      My 2000 has 61k, what do I look for when inspecting the timing belt? I've read a few things here and am under the impression that if your timing belt goes, it will ruin the engine...is this correct? what happens?

      The kit from ECS will replace everything I need correct? Is it an easy job for the average handy man? Any special tools I'll need?

      What was included in the 40k tune up?


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      07-06-2004 01:43 PM #10
      There's a cover that easy to remove to see the belt. Look for fraying/cracking, make sure it's not loose, etc., however I've heard that just because the belt is in good shape, it doesn't mean it can't go soon, especially if the tensioner fails catastrophically. I don't think it's easy to see the tensioner with the cover off, and don't know how easy it is to tell its condition just from inspection anyway.

      If the timing belt breaks you'll end up with bent valves, which might constitute ruining the engine, depending how you look at it. It's ruined enough that a used replacement engine can cost less.

      No it's not an easy job, but doable if you're somewhat handy, a little brave, and have a whole weekend to devote it if needed. Check out DaddyMatt's article in the info section on clubB5.com for lots of details.

      edit: Oh, and the part about the 40k service that matters for this subject is the inspection of the belt which you'd want documented if you were to make a claim on the 10/100 PT warranty.


      Modified by passatcabrio at 10:45 AM 7-6-2004


    11. 07-16-2004 03:04 PM #11
      passatcabrio,

      I called to see how much it would cost for the 40K tune up and the timing belt replacement. The tech said he could have it all done in 1 day, $850. $450 for the 40K service and $450 for the timing belt. I asked what all they replace on the timing belt job, he said just the timing belt, unless the tensioner/roller needs replaced. Also he said he can't replace the waterpump unless it's leaking or broken because of the PT warranty. What does the VW service do for the 40K tune up, is it work paying for? I mean the timing belt only cost $40-50...so that's $400 in labor?

      Please advise, I'm going to be putting some heavy miles on my car next weekend and want some assurance that my car will be running okay. And plus prevenative mantinace helps me sleep at night.

      Corey


      Modified by kcmo_guy at 10:04 PM 7-16-2004


      Modified by kcmo_guy at 10:08 PM 7-16-2004


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      07-17-2004 11:47 PM #12
      Service required at 40k per Bentley:
      O&F
      Inspect Timing Belt
      Replace plugs
      Check brakes
      Check fluids
      Rotate tires
      Check cooling system
      Replace pollen filter
      Replace air filter
      Inspect drive shafts
      Adjust headlights
      Lube hinges
      Check belts
      Check for OBD codes

      Even though that looks like a long list, many of those things take little to no time. $400 is a lot, I paid less than 1/2 that to my local independent shop.

      As for the TB change, $450 doesn't seem bad. Most who have done it themselves have basically devoted a whole weekend to it.


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