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    Thread: lets get a ABA 16v Parts List/FAQ Thread going

    1. 08-19-2004 11:49 PM #26
      which charger are you gonna be running the SC61. Who makes that one. sorry im just starting to get into this project and i havent looked much into forced induction besides the BBM and the neuspeed.

    2. 08-20-2004 07:33 AM #27
      the SC61 is a Turbocharger,, it is about equal to a T61. Here is some info on it. http://www.precisionte.com/pro...rgers

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      08-20-2004 08:00 AM #28
      Quote, originally posted by German_Muscle »
      it is about equal to a T61.

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    4. 08-20-2004 02:53 PM #29
      link doesnt work but oh well I think im gonna with more reliable source of power,supercharger. I wouldnt mind going turbo but dont want to shell out the cash.


      Modified by mwebb95jetta at 7:58 PM 8-20-2004

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      08-20-2004 03:02 PM #30
      what supercharger do you plan on running that is both reliable and more cost effective?
      Does anyone know who bought the FK 5x100 25mm spacers off of me at Spring Show and Go? I found the hardware, please have him contact me!!!!

    6. 08-20-2004 04:38 PM #31
      Well before I was thinking about doing the 16v head swap, I was going to get the Neuspeed, but havent really thought about it since I decided to do the head swap.

    7. 08-24-2004 01:52 PM #32
      bump for a good thread

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      08-26-2004 02:43 PM #33
      Does someone have a picture of the 9a IT shaft gear?
      Want to see the diff. between the 9a and the ABA. Cause I want to see if I can do some work to get the 9a gear on the ABA shaft so then I can use the ABA oil pump and not have to source all of the 9a parts.

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      08-30-2004 07:43 PM #34


      for piston, if you don't need to oversize bore dimension, juste find a euro dealer that may sell you some 82.5 x 92.8mm 10.5:1 CR ABF pistons...
      btw, I've got a quote for VW oversized ABF 83mm x 92.8mm 10.5:1 at 1400$cdn + shipping and taxes....
      still don't know what to do

    10. 08-30-2004 08:22 PM #35
      Eurospec sports has cast ABF pistons for the ABA to give you a 10:1 ratio for $289 usd. if you want a 10.5:1 you could deck the block or head slightly. They also have pistons for use with 83mm and 83.5mm bores and 95.5mm stroke for a little more money. Use the money you save to buy some aggresive cams from autotech or TT.

      The ABA pistons will give you an 8.1:1 CR and the 9A pistons should give you an 8.5:1 CR, both are good for boost.

    11. 08-30-2004 09:45 PM #36
      Bump, I updated the list. I also am waiting on UPs to deliver a bunch of parts i just ordered. Ill be sure and post up if i have any advice or any questions about the swap. I also want to note that i am using a ABF Full Intake Manifold and a OBD1 ABA Throttle Body. [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

    12. 08-31-2004 01:33 AM #37
      Why the ABF manifold? It would be great for NA gains in low end, but since you are going turbo, why not a short runner intake?

    13. 08-31-2004 08:46 AM #38
      Quote, originally posted by all-starr-me »
      Why the ABF manifold? It would be great for NA gains in low end, but since you are going turbo, why not a short runner intake?

      Well the ABF manifold is actually bigger than the Euro 50mm 16v manifolds, Plus it will look great and it only cost me 310 shipped, short runner manifolds are prolly way more expensive. I doubt itll be a bottleneck since im using a SC61 Turbocharger, if it does become a bottleneck ill just have it port and polished. [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

    14. 08-31-2004 12:33 PM #39
      German Muscle, if you dont mind me asking how much do you think your gonna spend all said and done? Are you installing it all yourself?

    15. 08-31-2004 02:43 PM #40
      what all are you wanting prices on? yes i am doing it myself.

    16. 08-31-2004 04:26 PM #41
      ive changed my mind a little im planning on going turbo, with the 16 v head swap with fordged aba pistons and rods. Just wanted to see what all im gonna end up spending.

    17. 08-31-2004 08:33 PM #42
      I know the ABF is bigger than the 50mm euro manifold, But bigger means more piping and more space to fill, which takes longer to pressureize, inducing more lag.
      It shouldn't be a big concern for you running that big of a charger, but a 40mm manifold will fill up faster than a 42mm or 50mm. A short runner would gain you even more and you could use whatever throttle body you want with it, any where you need it to make routing easier, and I've seen them going for good prices on here. hkk735 is making them for pretty cheap, ask him what they are going for.

    18. 08-31-2004 09:01 PM #43
      Ok, hkk735 has short runners for between 375 and 450, more info here: http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=1552186
      more pics of 2.0 8v crossflow here: http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=1559924
      and Vr one here: http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=1559920

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      09-01-2004 06:02 PM #44
      problem with eurospecsport pistons... is that the 83mm x 92.8mm pistons have a CR at 13:1 and it is WAY too much for a daily application...
      If I remember correctly there is a pic in here of an ABF intake mani and the TB on it is a VR6 OBD1 TB and it fits perfect... seems that the hole is bigger than the ABA 8v one...

    20. 09-02-2004 12:44 AM #45
      german muscle no reply? Im just curoius cause i want to go pretty much the same route, and am wondering how much im gonna be spending around.

    21. 09-02-2004 02:40 PM #46
      there is another thing im kind of confused on turbo wise, I am looking for a kit for a 16v right not an ABA setup. Or would that even work cause ive been told that you have to use a scricco manifold?

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      09-02-2004 02:43 PM #47
      you can use whatever 16v manifold you'd like...
      your going to need a turbo manifold for a 16v.
      Does anyone know who bought the FK 5x100 25mm spacers off of me at Spring Show and Go? I found the hardware, please have him contact me!!!!

    23. 09-03-2004 01:40 AM #48
      My turbo setup will consist of the following:
      Autronic SM2
      750CC Injectors
      SC61 Turbocharger
      Zornig Tubular Turbo Manifold
      Mitsu Evo 8 Intercooler
      Autolab LLC Racing 3.5 inch Downpipe
      TiAL Sport 40mm External Wastegate
      Dual Greddy Type S Blow Off Valves
      Blitz Dual Turbo Timer
      Blitz DUAL SBC TYPE R Boost Controller
      Greddy Electronic 60mm Peak/Hold EGT Guage
      3.5 inch Exhaust dump
      2 inch Wastegate dump
      i think thats about it, if i want any more power, i doubt i will but id have a intercooler sprayer that sprays freon through the intercooler. [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

    24. 09-04-2004 03:27 PM #49
      I've got a 91 1.8l 8v GTI (Used to be daily, couldn't bring myself to get rid of it, so now it's a project)
      I was originally just gonna use a 2.0l 16v out of a B3 Passat for my first engine swap (teaching myself as I go) but as of late I've been getting interested in turbos so I'm thinking I might try to knock out a few first in one fell swoop.... How hard would this be for my first semi-custom engine build, first turbo project, and first swap all in one?
      Would you recommend something else? I was just gonna do the 2.0l 16v cause from what I can tell it is a very direct swap into my car.

    25. 09-14-2004 03:47 PM #50
      Bump

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