lets get a ABA 16v Parts List/FAQ Thread going

[JediKGB]

uhm...well the block, and head, and throttle bodies....access to a machine shop (or deep pockets) and probably want a higher compression since the low c/r are good for boost....

[Chris164935]

And some sort of stand-alone management, I believe.

[qwikxr]

Off-Topic:

Chris - I read you signature and had a hard time believing that the '05 GLI weighs 3800 lbs.. That's what my '85 BMW 745i Turbo weighed 3800 and it's way bigger and more solid than the Jetta.. So this is what I googled..

Vehicle Dimensions
4-door sedan 4-door wagon
Wheelbase, in. 98.9 99.0
Overall Length, in. 172.3 173.6
Overall Width, in. 68.3 68.3
Overall Height, in. 56.7 58.5
Curb Weight, lbs. 2895 3034
Cargo Volume, cu. ft. 13.0 51.9
Standard Payload, lbs. -- -- -- --
Fuel Capacity, gals. 14.5 14.5
Seating Capacity 5 5
Front Head Room, in. 38.6 38.6
Max. Front Leg Room, in. 41.5 41.5
Rear Head Room, in. 36.9 38.1
Min. Rear Leg Room, in. 33.5 33.5

Unless you've got 1000lbs of stereo equipment

Edit: link for reference: http://auto.consumerguide.com/...Specs/

[rabbjett]

Quote, originally posted by Chris164935 »

And some sort of stand-alone management, I believe.

what is the best one to use and want do i need to get high compression... and i am pretty posive that the 05 jetta weights about that much... just look on the door

[qwikxr]

Quote, originally posted by 18T MKIV »

what is the best one to use and want do i need to get high compression... and i am pretty posive that the 05 jetta weights about that much... just look on the door

hi compression and boost = boom..

door weight is gross weight (car + cargo/occupants)

[Chris164935]

Whoops. Fixed it. Hey, quick question: How can I run a 15 flat at 94 mph? My fastest (as you've seen) is 14.6, but at 92 mph...

Anyway, one good (and cheap) stand alone management would be Megasquirt/Megaspark. You have to pretty much build the whole setup yourself, but it's still way cheaper than other kits.


Modified by Chris164935 at 10:42 PM 7-26-2005

[vdubn98]

Quote, originally posted by Chris164935 »

Hey, quick question: How can I run a 15 flat at 94 mph? My fastest (as you've seen) is 14.6, but at 92 mph... Modified by Chris164935 at 10:42 PM 7-26-2005

launch and accel. would be my guess, your 15 flat at 94mph probably had a bad launch compared to your 14.6 at 92mph

someone correct me if wrong

[hasnfefr]

[qwikxr]

Quote, originally posted by Chris164935 »

Whoops. Fixed it. Hey, quick question: How can I run a 15 flat at 94 mph? My fastest (as you've seen) is 14.6, but at 92 mph...

Rule of Thumb:

Torque gets you e.t.
Horsepower gets you mile per hour

14.6 @ 92 would calculate to 188hp in a 3000 pound car (using RWD calculations, though..) Either way, this is an accurate measurement, mph vs. ET..

[pozer]

Quote, originally posted by qwikxr »

Rule of Thumb: Torque gets you e.t. Horsepower gets you mile per hour 14.6 @ 92 would calculate to 188hp in a 3000 pound car (using RWD calculations, though..) Either way, this is an accurate measurement, mph vs. ET..

IS this WHP or Crank? I have allways wondered what to use when doing this calculation.

[qwikxr]

Generally speaking (with RWD cars, as I am most used to), it is related to whp. I know there are multiple variances when calculating fwd figures..

[mrkil]

wondering if anyone knows the stock c/r for the 1.8 acc motor.
i'm thinking of doing a 16v or 8v turbo.
since the aba and acc blocks are almost identicle, i was thinking it should be a lower c/r since the acc is a mono-motronic, and built for fuel economy.

what do you guys think about this idea?

[the4ork]

i havent read the whole 10 pages....

but what do you do about the crank pulley? isnt the 16v belt wider?
can you run aba accessories?

[mrkil]

there's an adapter pulley for the swap or you can shave the 8v pulely

[qwikxr]

waterneck on the front of the 16v head will interfere with the tensioner spring section of the accy bracket.. you'll need to mod the filler neck a little..

[ubergolfgl]

theres a lot of info to go through in here, but in the first post it said an OBD1 ABA block. what is the difference between the OBD1 and OBD2 blocks? can i use an OBD2 block instead, because i have access to one i can rebuild. thanks guys.

[ROBHARMER]

Im putting together my ABA 16v right now and i slid the Int Shaft into the block, slid the oil pump into the block, and put the Oil pump Drive gear onto the shaft of the oil pump. My problem is that it doesnt even touch the gear on the Int shaft?? it just doesnt seem to line up at all. I have the 16V int. shaft, Oil Pump and Drive gear but for some reason nothing lines up.....I also had a bit of trouble fitting the TDI crank it was tapping the oil sqirters a little bit, that problem is resolved but did anyone else run into anything like that installing the 95.5 crank? So basically i diddnt get very far tonight and ive been here for like 4 hours.

[pozer]

Did you get the 1.8 or the 2.0 IM shaft. from what I have heard the 1.8 shaft don't fit...

[ROBHARMER]

not sure if its 1.8 or 2.0, i thought the diffrence was thickness of the shaft, i thouht the 2.0 skinnier, to clear the bigger crank. can someone confirm?

[qwikxr]

No, more to it than that.
THe actual bearing race areas are larger on the 2.0 16v Int. shaft, than the 1.8L 16v. That I do know. The 2.0 will not fit in a 1.8 block, and the 1.8 fits sloppy - and short, i think..

[ROBHARMER]

It has to be 2.0 shaft now that i think about it, the crank spins freely no interference from the int. shaft. and if your saying the 1.8 would fit sloppy then it definatly cant be wrong because the shaft fits nice and tight, no slack in either of the races. Is there a part i need to install other than just the drie gear, is there a spacer or something thatmight make the gear itself fit? i have to say im pretty confused right now.

[qwikxr]

do you have the cover piece and stuff to compensate for the lack of distributor? you are using the 16v dizzy ?

[ROBHARMER]

no i dont have a block off or anything, and yes im using the dizzy from the 16v.

[qwikxr]

what are you replacing the ABA distr. with, then? What are you using to compensate for the now missing block dizzy?

[The Hater]

Quote, originally posted by qwikxr »

what are you replacing the ABA distr. with, then? What are you using to compensate for the now missing block dizzy?

the aba distributor hole gets blocked off with the 16v block off plate...

and then you run the 16v distributor in the head..

all you gotta do is read read read...

[qwikxr]

Quote, originally posted by The Hater »

the aba distributor hole gets blocked off with the 16v block off plate... and then you run the 16v distributor in the head.. all you gotta do is read read read...

chill, dude.. I wasnt asking as a group.. I was asking ^^ is efforts to ANSWER or HELP RESOLVE HIS issue..
friggin relax., read read read

[ROBHARMER]

I was planning on getting the block off, just diddnt have acces to one just yet, is it critical? could that be why this whole thing isnt lining up?

I knew what you meant, I do appriciate the replies.

[qwikxr]

Detrimental to get all the related parts from the 16v.

[The Hater]

maybe you should have quoted him then...

in any event, this thread has pretty much every bit of info one could need to do an aba/16v but noone reads the thread...how is someone going to build a motor if you can't read?

[qwikxr]

if you'd followed the last 4-5 posts of the thread, you could have figured that out.
I'll ensure I quote from now on to appease the masses.

Quote, originally posted by The Hater »

maybe you should have quoted him then... in any event, this thread has pretty much every bit of info one could need to do an aba/16v but noone reads the thread...how is someone going to build a motor if you can't read?

I agree with your statement, as well, but is definitely needs cleaned up a bit. This thread is getting long in the tooth and is cumbersome to sort through, anymore.

[eurotuner-a2]

What kind of mod do you have to do on the water thingy from the head and where do you get the modded aba crank pulley cause i figure it will be cheaper to run aba accesories than finding 2.0 16v pulleys and gear... thanks

[The Hater]

Quote, originally posted by eurotuner-a2 »

What kind of mod do you have to do on the water thingy from the head and where do you get the modded aba crank pulley cause i figure it will be cheaper to run aba accesories than finding 2.0 16v pulleys and gear... thanks

Qwikxr - see what i'm talking about? people don't even bother to read the first page anymore...the first post gives his crank pulley answer...

[mrkil]

i spent a good 45 minutes reading the whole thread last night.

it contains every thing you need to know about the aba 16v swap

it's well worth the read. it's just the last few pages that get messy

i j ust wish i could find out what the stock c/r is for the acc block.

i'd love to do this but i need to figure out if it's gonna be an easy job of a tonne of machining


Modified by mrkil at 10:24 AM 8-29-2005

[qwikxr]

Quote, originally posted by The Hater »

Qwikxr - see what i'm talking about? people don't even bother to read the first page anymore...the first post gives his crank pulley answer...

werd

[ROBHARMER]

Yea i see that but how can a plug stop two stationary gears from lining up. I have all the other necesary parts but that was left off when i bought them, I diddnt forget it i just dont have it.

By the way, i spent all morning pretending to work but really i was reading this thread, It says nothing about IM shaft/Drive gear lining up. I know the list of parts needed for the swap, i could rattle them off in my sleep. the thread does need to cleaned up if was patient enough id cut and paste all the relevant info into a new thread but im just not patient.


Modified by ROBHARMER at 11:09 AM 8-29-2005