lets get a ABA 16v Parts List/FAQ Thread going

[o_kh3]

the 2e is same as ABA.

[hasnfefr]

ttt

[slim-jim]

so, anybody got some pictures of a aba16v completed and in a car?
is there any jimmy riggen that has to happen? I also have a q about the 1.8t fuel rail. is that possible to use or did I read wrong


Modified by slim-jim at 1:09 PM 6-22-2009

[speed51133!]

coolant lines will need some "jimmy rigging"...
nobody ever mentions thoes.

[slim-jim]

ok well thanks man

[daneek155]

so im confused, you cant just put the 2.0 16v heaD on a 2.0 obd1 aba block, used for a turbo mk2

[16vtblackjetta]

Quote, originally posted by daneek155 »

so im confused, you cant just put the 2.0 16v heaD on a 2.0 obd1 aba block, used for a turbo mk2

No read atleast the first 20 pages carefully. Its not hard and there are many combinations.

[Greengt1]

my 16v/aba is running now turn key,.. i love it... i will get some pics real soon

[slim-jim]

are you turbo and what comp. to you have

[Greengt1]

i am turbo and im running digi 1 with 60# chip

[leon whalen]

follow the link below for pics of working aba16v in a mk3. if you are considering doing the swap? DO IT. you will love it.
http://www.customobsessions.co...24348

[slim-jim]

cool, I am gonna do it just need a couple more parts

[slim-jim]

do I need the crank gear also not just the pulley. the gear that the crank pulley bolts up to thanks in advance I couldn't find anything about that and I don't know what that would be called

[speed51133!]

you need the crank timing belt gear from a 2.0 16v, and also the crank pulley aka harmonic balancer (needs modification milling 6mm off crank side and ring pressed in)

[slim-jim]

thank you, what kind of ring, is it to make the lip of the pulley. I am gonna be runnin aba acc.

[vwpat]

Quote, originally posted by slim-jim »

thank you, what kind of ring, is it to make the lip of the pulley. I am gonna be runnin aba acc.

To centre it after you machine the 6 mm off.

[jetta_boy1990]

ok well im kinda new to the whole 16v forum. but this is what i want to do cause i need more power in my jetta.

i have a 1996 jetta OBDII. i want to do a 16v headswap. is it possible to do to an OBDII. i read the first page and it says about OBDI but nothing about OBDII???

[shwagondawheels]

Quote, originally posted by bonesaw »

Idler/Tensioner Pulley: 2.0L16 or 1.8 16v but you really should be buying a new one Oil Pump: MUST BE 2.0 16v Oil Pump Drive: 2.0L 16v or 1.8 16v must go with approprite int shaft. the gear is alot smaller for a 1.8 16v Water Pump: 2.0L 16v or 1.8 16v or ABA Water Pump Pulley: 2.0L 16v or 1.8 16v or ABA or vr6 wapter pump if you want serp setup Crank Pulley: 2.0L 16v or 1.8 16v or shaved ABA Alternator: 2.0L 16v or 1.8 16v or ABA Alternator Pulley: 2.0L 16v or 1.8 16v or ABA Alternator Belt: 2.0L 16v or 1.8 16v or serp belt Intermediate Shaft: 2.0L 16v or 1.8 16v

Intermediate Shaft: 2.0L 16v or 1.8 16v

so you can use a 1.8 16v PL IM in an ABA no clearance issues?

i was told it wont work.. i don't see why not..

[shwagondawheels]

Quote, originally posted by shwagondawheels »

Intermediate Shaft: 2.0L 16v or 1.8 16v so you can use a 1.8 16v PL IM in an ABA no clearance issues? i was told it wont work.. i don't see why not..

So I answered my own question today and tried a mock up with the PL intermediate in my 94 ABA bottom end and the crank interferes with the gear on the intermediate... the connecting rod of cylinder #4 hit the gear on the end of the intermediate

Note: PL or 1.8 16v intermediate will not clear in an ABA bottom

I missed the page that stated this, if there is one.

9A intermediate. oil pump gear, and block dizzy block off cap anyone?
I will be buying new 9A oil pump...

Todays mock up, pics for kicks

ABA on stand, 1.8 16v head on bench in the back, pl block on ground (for parts) and two counterflows from prior 16v swaps


Modified by shwagondawheels at 6:50 AM 7-17-2009

[sake138]

I'm thinking about doing this swap has anyone used this kit before, and did is it worth it?

http://www.bahnbrenner.com/vw_...n_Kit

[shwagondawheels]

yeah a lot have and I am not one of them but it will save you a lot of trouble...

[lowlevelowl]

Modified by lowlevelowl at 11:15 PM 7/29/2009

[slim-jim]

very nice moded 1.8t mani how was that did you do it yourself or I am thinkin a doin that but there still alot more important parts I need.
I want to use my aba oil pump and int shaft and I am wantering if I can put a spacer on that shaft to get the sprocket on. I really need to get my motor on the stand so I can stop imaginin and see it for real.
By the way what pistons you got in there and is that a 9a block. cr

[lowlevelowl]

It's running an approximate 10.5:1 compression ratio using ABF pistons from Bahn Brenner Motorsports.

The motor is a freshly rebuilt 1.8L 16v head mated to a OBD1 2.0L ABA bottom end.

I'm using a 1.8t intake manifold with HKS air filter modified to fit a 16v cylinder head and a stock dual outlet downpipe from a MK2 GTi that is fit to a 2.25" TT exhaust system (deleted cat).

The ECU is 034efi Stage Ic running waste spark and 24lb/hour injectors also from BBM.

[slim-jim]

very nice and those pistons don't get a dropped compression because of the 16v on a aba block or are they 11.5>1 cr

[lowlevelowl]

They are replica oem ABF pistons and bring the compression ratio up to approximately 10.5:1

[slim-jim]

very nice, the only problem I am looking at is the pistons I have 9a ones but I don't know how to tell the weear and think that they need replacement. great success

[REPOMAN]

Quote, originally posted by slim-jim »

so, anybody got some pictures of a aba16v completed and in a car? Modified by slim-jim at 1:09 PM 6-22-2009

This engine is a hole nether level.
I am currently rebuilding with H beam rods. i was afraid the OEM rods at 430whp wouldn't last.
new H beam rods 8.5:1 JE up from 8.0:1 Wossners and water/ meth
kit will be making 475-500 whp soon.

[leon whalen]

Quote, originally posted by lowlevelowl »

It's running an approximate 10.5:1 compression ratio using ABF pistons from Bahn Brenner Motorsports. The motor is a freshly rebuilt 1.8L 16v head mated to a OBD1 2.0L ABA bottom end. I'm using a 1.8t intake manifold with HKS air filter modified to fit a 16v cylinder head and a stock dual outlet downpipe from a MK2 GTi that is fit to a 2.25" TT exhaust system (deleted cat). The ECU is 034efi Stage Ic running waste spark and 24lb/hour injectors also from BBM.

have you ever dyno'd this set up, or 1/4 miled it? if so, what #'s.

i have aba16v in a mk3 with a t.t. chip & euro cam. it runs 15.2 on street tires. never dyno'd, but should be over 140whp

[slim-jim]

I have seen similar setups and they said 170hp. I think that the head on a aba starts out higher than stock 9a not sure but I hope so.

[leon whalen]

170hp would be at crank. & yes aba16v combo is about 150hp @ crank with no mods

[8vlove12]

what kind of ecu's are you guys running. im almost done with my car and thats the only thing that im trying to figure out. if i should run a 16v ecu or g60

[leon whalen]

stock aba ecu with techtonics chip (aba16v) works great, no complaints



Modified by leon whalen at 1:58 PM 8-14-2009

[pozer]

A few paged back I made a statement that I have no valve contact with TT sport cams and I was wrong.

Finally I have the blown engine apart and I have more factual details.

Pictures say it all.

[slim-jim]

ouch dam that's bad. sorry to see that man.

I saw somethin on this once now I can't find it.
Are aba and abf wrist pins the same size 21 mm right.
Also does anybody know if the piston rings would be the same.


Modified by slim-jim at 9:11 AM 8-24-2009