lets get a ABA 16v Parts List/FAQ Thread going

[my2000APB]

how do you get around the camsensor when converting to the 16v head.

use the hall sender in the dizzy for cam position

[my2000APB]

Updating the Main list. Check it out. I added the above info and MK3 accessory conversion info to the list.

if i run the 16v timing belt tensioner/roller do i not use the hydro tensioner from the aba?


im also using a 12v vr6 wp pulley and deleting a/c and p/s, so i will run serpentine only, any idea what belt to run?

[Glissaid]

I have a full build with a after market flywheel.The flywheel does not have a tdc mark on it so i need to degree the block to mark the flywheel.I do not trust the crank pulley mark because of the amount of play left and right in the pulley before the bolts are tight.

[blackgolfer]

what do you folks think about this kinda build with turbo and itbs ? ? or

and also does anyone have a motor of this build that has a dyno chart ? thnx

[the_kernel114]

so wanting to build a n/a aba 16v as soon as i sell my toyota pickup. going to build a motor out of the car and swap it in when it's all done, going to run the aba mk3 accessories so going to get the aba serpentine pulley machined down 6mm. using a 16v crank pulley for the timing belt and a abf belt from bbm. going to put the 9a pistons on the aba rods (centered) and use a stock 8 valve head gasket. going to use the 16v distributor with aba internals. thats about all i have for info at the moment, anything else i need to know with this swap, like can i use the stock aba oil pump? looking to get around 10:1 compression with the 9a pistons, how much would i need to get the head or block or both shaved to get that? can the stock obd2 run this setup with a chip of some sort?

thanks guys.

[BoostingSlow]

Hey guys, quick question. Does a 1.8 intermediate shaft work with a 2.0 drive gear? Or am I good to use a 1.8 shaft and drive gear?

[Prof315]

Hey guys, quick question. Does a 1.8 intermediate shaft work with a 2.0 drive gear? Or am I good to use a 1.8 shaft and drive gear?

No and No. You need a 2.0L IM shaft and drive gear.

[BoostingSlow]

No and No. You need a 2.0L IM shaft and drive gear.

Thanks for the quick response. I guess I have to find a 2.0L.

[JBETZ]

or you can run these.

http://www.bahnbrenner.com/vw_audi/p...t_ABA_2_0L_16V

http://www.bahnbrenner.com/media/php...g.php?pid=1761

[michaelnahodil]

To do the stroker set-up can you use a mk4 diesel crank?

[leon whalen]

To do the stroker set-up can you use a mk4 diesel crank?

i am pretty sure i read somewhere you could use the mk4 tdi crank. it just needs more machining on the snout than the mk3 tdi crank. (i used a mk3 crank)

[petreeman1000]

how different is the BEV engine from the ABA engine?

[Old Windy]

I have a 2.1 ABF pistons in a ABA OBD1 Block and 9A head (P & P, gasket matche, etc), with 268 cams and a 50 mm intake. Thing is running great but I went digi 1 and can't figure out how to get the speedo and tack to work.

Any help appreciated.

[xtremevdub]

Quick question..
Attaching a 16v head to a ABA block, What kind of head studs do you use? The standard 16v ones??




Thats all I am missing to put this bitch together..

[my2000APB]

yes reg 16v studs

[Old Windy]

Quick question..
Attaching a 16v head to a ABA block, What kind of head studs do you use? The standard 16v ones??




Thats all I am missing to put this bitch together..

I ended up going with ARP 16v studs.

I need that intake badly.


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[mozcar78]

Quick question..
Attaching a 16v head to a ABA block, What kind of head studs do you use? The standard 16v ones??




Thats all I am missing to put this bitch together..

Howdy cousin!!
Pm sent.

sent from my mooseknuckle

[Prof315]

I have a 2.1 ABF pistons in a ABA OBD1 Block and 9A head (P & P, gasket matche, etc), with 268 cams and a 50 mm intake. Thing is running great but I went digi 1 and can't figure out how to get the speedo and tack to work.

Any help appreciated.

If it's in your 97 golf you can't at least not with digi .

[leon whalen]

I have a 2.1 ABF pistons in a ABA OBD1 Block and 9A head (P & P, gasket matche, etc), with 268 cams and a 50 mm intake. Thing is running great but I went digi 1 and can't figure out how to get the speedo and tack to work.

Any help appreciated.

why not just use the aba management? it will work proper and you can have a custom chip burned for the aba16v

[Ra9chelle]

Thanks in advance :crosses fingers and hopes this thread takes off:

[Old Windy]

If it's in your 97 golf you can't at least not with digi .

Well it did run and started from the 1st try. Only thing was that I was not getting a proper signal for the fuel level. Got all else working. Thing was that the whole dashboard was lighted up like xmas.

why not just use the aba management? it will work proper and you can have a custom chip burned for the aba16v

Curently doing that at the moment. After break in, had to disasemble the engine again due to excessive Oil consumption at startup and WOT. Ended up being that I needed better Oil Rings for the 83.5 mm pistons.

I shall have it back on the road this weekend running on OBD2. I still wish had that intake, currenlty have a 50mm one.....

[chilledOUTmk1]

Does anyone have an issue with their timing belt running on the edges of the pullys. ABA16v using 150 tooth 1.8t timing belt, rides on the inside of the cam gear and outside of the crank pully.

[CasuallyWreckless]

Bahn brenner has kits avail for this swap. Didn't read much past page 5. What kind of management are the mk1 guys running?

[9aba16vt]

I thought my post replied a couple days ago!

Mine is the opposite.. outside cam and inside crank.. weird...

[Bx V-dubber]

Great thread/sticky! Learned alot, read way to much (mod needs to cut out ALOT of the repetitive questions). Between reading this thread and talking to a few other tex members…I started disassembling my aba block. Sourced out a 16v head & I am gonna buy the bbm kit to get this "winter project" started. Does anyone have any suggestions as to who has a better stand-alone system for this. Btw: thanks to everyone who put this together.

Parts list:
IE h-beam rods riffled drilled
Je pistons for 16v abf along w/rings, also had skirt & tops calico coated
Calico coated bearings
Aba block
16v head
Arp head studs & rod bolts
T3/t4 garret turbo (I believe ar is .50)

[clevebb]

Great thread/sticky! Learned alot, read way to much (mod needs to cut out ALOT of the repetitive questions). Between reading this thread and talking to a few other tex members…I started disassembling my aba block. Sourced out a 16v head & I am gonna buy the bbm kit to get this "winter project" started. Does anyone have any suggestions as to who has a better stand-alone system for this. Btw: thanks to everyone who put this together.

It's like an initiation of sorts, read through the entire thread and then you can answer questions instead of ask them. Nothing like reading the same "Can I use a... or a ...that?" 50 times, won't ever forget.

[michaelnahodil]

So the setup I'm running is

OBD1 ABA Block
OBD1 ABA Crank
OBD1 ABA Rods
9A Pistons

I ordered 9a (2.0 16v) Rod Bushings, pressed one in, and the 9a wrist pin would not slide in
So I ordered PL (1.8 16v) Rod Bushings, and the same ordeal.

Am I doing something wrong? Did I misread something?

[Old Windy]

So the setup I'm running is

OBD1 ABA Block
OBD1 ABA Crank
OBD1 ABA Rods
9A Pistons

I ordered 9a (2.0 16v) Rod Bushings, pressed one in, and the 9a wrist pin would not slide in
So I ordered PL (1.8 16v) Rod Bushings, and the same ordeal.

Am I doing something wrong? Did I misread something?

In order for that to work, the rods need to be machined to accept the bushings and 9A pistons.
Get the 8v Mk2 rod bushings and take them to a machine shop. They will lnow what to do if you explain it to them.

You running FI or NA?
That set up IIRC will get you a 9:1:1 compresion.


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[michaelnahodil]

In order for that to work, the rods need to be machined to accept the bushings and 9A pistons.
Get the 8v Mk2 rod bushings and take them to a machine shop. They will lnow what to do if you explain it to them.

You running FI or NA?
That set up IIRC will get you a 9:1:1 compresion.


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Going to run NA... I'll bring an aba rod and a 9a rod and tell them the inside diameter for the bushings on the aba rods needs to match the 9a

[speedyj77]

Do I need to do cuts for valves when using ABA pistons and 16v head ?

[Old Windy]

Do I need to do cuts for valves when using ABA pistons and 16v head ?

No, when using an ABA bottom end with a 16V head; there is no need to do anything to the valvetrain except cleaning it, making sure it is in good shape and if needed do a rebuild on the head.

That set up yields an 8:1:1 compression IIRC when using ABA pistons (depending on the year and type OBD1 / OBD2 and anything else the piston is different).
The ABA piston has a "dish" in it crown area. The ABA bottom end and 16v head is an excellent combination for Turbo aplication due to the compresion acquired.

[Old Windy]

Going to run NA... I'll bring an aba rod and a 9a rod and tell them the inside diameter for the bushings on the aba rods needs to match the 9a

That is a good idea, just take them both and tell them what to do. GL

[leon whalen]

Going to run NA... I'll bring an aba rod and a 9a rod and tell them the inside diameter for the bushings on the aba rods needs to match the 9a

if you plan on staying N/A, take your block to the machine shop & tell them to shave 70thow of an inch off it. this will give you 11:1 comp. if you don't do this, it will be hard to make N/A power with 9:1 comp. i decked the block on my sons aba16v and it works great on pump gas (91 octane).

[kyle18dunn]

Quick question..
Attaching a 16v head to a ABA block, What kind of head studs do you use? The standard 16v ones??




Thats all I am missing to put this bitch together..

How did you get the mk3 throttle body onto the 16 valve intake?

[Old Windy]

How did you get the mk3 throttle body onto the 16 valve intake?

That's an ABF intake. It uses either the actual ABF TB or an OBD2 VR6 TB. It bolts right up.


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