Holset turbo's!!

[fast_a2_20v]

Quote, originally posted by Vr6Fidelity »

Let me know how that works out Turboit, i think i have 5 of those new on the shelf collecting dust. Always assumed they were too big.

i just finished building a manifold to put one of those on a 1.8t

Modified by fast_a2_20v at 4:47 PM 1-3-2006

[need_a_VR6]

Leaving off the wastegate was the best idea you've had lately.

[fast_a2_20v]

well, the customer was going to be a pansy about running some boost, so i figured i'd just take away the option...

actually, i've been sick as hell this week (all 4 wisedom teeth out + flu at same time) and basically unable to put the wastegate setup on there yet.

Its going to come off both mini collectors and y togheter wherever i can find a good spot for it.

[Malone]

Holset HX40 on VW 1.6L 8v diesel:

Not actually installed, but it will be. Considering a HX35 from a 24v Cummins diesel instead of this HX40 we received as trade for some custom parts. Yes, the HX will spool just fine.

[need_a_VR6]

Quote, originally posted by Malone »

Yes, the HX will spool just fine.

When?

[Malone]

Quote, originally posted by need_a_VR6 »

When?

1.5 PSI at idle, 11 PSI cruising in 5th gear at 3,000 RPM on level highway.

25-30 PSI by 3,000 RPM at WOT. Highest is 37 PSI by 5,000 RPM.

Max engine RPM for this 1.6L diesel after a fuel pump update may be 7,000 RPM so there's plenty of room.

Oh yeah, I left out one thing; I have a GT20 that will stay. It produces the boost I specified above. The HX will be an addition, not a replacement . Compound/sequential setup. 50+ PSI perhaps.

[Malone]

Here's a pic of a functional KKK K14 and Holset HX30 compound setup on a 1.9L diesel head:

[fast_a2_20v]

lol i love diesel guys freakin nuts!

[cabzilla]

Quote, originally posted by Serpent7 »

8V VW motors are very tourquey! Now a 16V, would probibly have a little lag with one of those, maybe, but not a 8V. Just my opinion.

I'm gonna let you in on a little secret. A 16v makes more torque everywhere than an 8v. It's the lack of top-end that makes the 8v feel "torquier".

[Trevahhhh]

Quote, originally posted by TH »

I´m sorry but you didn´t get much right on your post. 2.HX40 doesn´t have V-bands of any kind not metrical or any other (if you meant the turbine housing outlet). 3.How hard is it to find t3 flange because HX40 has the same flange. Modified by TH at 12:37 AM 12-7-2004

well mine has a V band outlet on the compressor housing .. and exhaust housing on my hx35/40 ... and its a divided tang flange ... which isnt too common... atleast i havent seen many

[Vr6Fidelity]

Picked up a Holset HC5A wheel, volute, and diffuser today 5.0" to replace the HX-80 5.55" wheel and volute.

HC5A will feed the HX-80 in a sequential setup in case you guys want to stop paying games with your girly sub 100psi boost pressures. Take your skirts off.

[Serpent7]

Ok, who here has installed one (HX-30, HX-35, HX40) on a VW either 1.8L, or 2.0L 8v, or 16v. If you have, please tell us how you installed it, and what parts you needed, and used and fabed up!

Everyone has there opinion on these turbos, but like myself, and my opinion have never even seen one in real life. Lets here from the folks (like the ones with the pretty pics) with experience with these suckas

[Serpent7]

Just found a Holset turbo dealer near my house. I'll pay them a visit one day soon. This week comming up is goining to be busy, so maybe by next week I'll have more info on it.

[need_a_VR6]

To my knowledge the only Holset on a VW is a Mk1 in Europe running a HX40 hybrid of some sort. Been talked about a good deal in the Mk1 forum.

That being said, Trevor is getting his hybrid ready to go, I'll be building up an 'on the cheap' setup using an HX35 shortly, and another friend of mine has the same going on a VR6 over the summer sometime.

Looking at the Volvo, DSM and Honda guys that have run them, it's a good fit for a super built 8v, or mild-wild 16/20v, or mild VR6.

[Vr6Fidelity]

Anyone know a good place for holset compressor maps? was looking for one for my HC5A

[Malone]

Quote, originally posted by Vr6Fidelity »

Anyone know a good place for holset compressor maps? was looking for one for my HC5A

I think it has already been mentioned earlier in this thread, but Holset compressor maps are well guarded. If you find some please post.

[Vr6Fidelity]

Apparently this is utter crap. Called holset, gave them model number and had map emailed to me in two minutes.

HC5A Cliffs notes:

1200cfm, 53.6 psi. at 77k.

thats a 127mm wheel 41 trim.

Off a Cummins KTA 19 engine. 19L Diesel 3.7 bar.

[Malone]

Quote, originally posted by Vr6Fidelity »

Apparently this is utter crap. Called holset, gave them model number and had map emailed to me in two minutes. HC5A Cliffs notes: 1200cfm, 53.6 psi. at 77k. thats a 127mm wheel 41 trim. Off a Cummins KTA 19 engine. 19L Diesel 3.7 bar.

Cool, can you please get HX30, HX35, and HX40 maps and forward them to my email at maloneATvwmarkDOTcom

Thanks,
Mark

[Vr6Fidelity]

Or you could just call them yourself???

[Malone]

Quote, originally posted by Vr6Fidelity »

Or you could just call them yourself???

I'm deaf dude, and I'm not joking IIRC a friend tried calling them but was unable to get the maps.. I can find a zillion KKK and Garrett maps via Google but none for HX30 to HX40.


Modified by Malone at 2:10 PM 1-12-2006

[B4S]

Quote, originally posted by mechsoldier »

Dodge owns 80% of mitsu And it's a 2.4 non turbo I think you're talking about, it has 180 ft lbs of torque n/a

Well, I guess that one works too, but I was referring to the 2.5l TBI motors in the older dodges. Its not a powerful motor, but it makes waaaaay more torque than a 1.8 VW.

[_Scirocco20v]

I need to steal the HX35 off my brothers truck and bolt that sucker to my aba...Now where are his keys

[mechsoldier]

Quote, originally posted by Vr6Fidelity »

Or you could just call them yourself???

Quote, originally posted by Malone »

I'm deaf dude, and I'm not joking

[_Scirocco20v]

Quote, originally posted by mechsoldier »

LOL!

You know he must have felt bad when he read that. I would have said the same thing to him though.

[mechsoldier]

OK I didn't make this, somebody on a DSM forum did, but this is the info he gave, apparently they're speaking about model years for the dodge cummins engines they came on. And being deaf is no excuse for sucking at the internet

Boost pressure at 20 psi (pressure ratio calculated from that), with cfm plotted from 500 to 8000 rpm. Pre-2003 HX-35 in Green. 2003 - 2004.5 HY-35 in Black. 2004.5 - Present HY-35 in Red. This is for 2.0L of displacment.

[Trevahhhh]

lets get this back from the dead ... i have made a little progress with my hx35/40 setup

here she is next to a t3/t4

[MK2Fanatic]

anyone else have any holset info? I've got a rebuilt HX55 off of a CAT N14 Diesel( I'm a diesel apprentice) That has been sitting on the shelf in my garage since christmas. I've tried figuring out what to do with it...

[transient_analysis]

Quote, originally posted by Trevahhhh »

talk about a case of "lets make the fooker fit"

Sweet jesus.. I'd like to see how this turbo does on the 1.8t..

[Trevahhhh]

after 6 months of waiting there was no way it wasnt goin in lol

[B if anybody needs holset V bands call this guy at turbotrader

877 332 4705] i have spent a tonnnnnnn of time trying to find them and this was the only guy that could help me out . cause we all know holset has their own funky metric V bands

[need_a_VR6]

Quote, originally posted by MK2Fanatic »

anyone else have any holset info? I've got a rebuilt HX55 off of a CAT N14 Diesel( I'm a diesel apprentice) That has been sitting on the shelf in my garage since christmas. I've tried figuring out what to do with it...

Mail it to me it'd be perfect on my truck.

Trevor, I've always thought that if you milled the turbine housing down just a bit a normal 3" v band fits.

[TomRitt]

Here's mine, works great! Like this turbo alot more than my old 57trim, makes boost sooner, and this thing is loud!!

[Trevahhhh]

Quote, originally posted by need_a_VR6 »

Mail it to me it'd be perfect on my truck. Trevor, I've always thought that if you milled the turbine housing down just a bit a normal 3" v band fits.

to tell you the truth im not sure ? its to the point where i have soo much time in the car its worth it to me to spend 20 extra bucks for a holset v-band than dickaround with a reg 3 inch v-band

[turboit]

Trevah or Paul do either of you guys know where I can get a new exhaust housing...the 12cm one ain't gonna cut it on the vr and ebay has few and far between. I need a 14cm and 16cm housing.

[Trevahhhh]

occasionally http://www.honda-tech.com .. i dont know any dodge cummins websites but id try searching those .. and of course ebay .. but you allready said you havent had much luck with them ..

i got my turbo from clay (rippinralf) ... maybe he can help you out with a exhaust housing ?

[turboit]

Thanks Trevahhh! Did a little searching in honda-tech and found this

http://www.htturbo.com/dodge.htm High Tech Turbo in utah, will modify your existing holset or sell you turbine and compressor housings and wheels. I shot them an email about upgrading my existing hx35 to hx35/40 w/14cm housing.