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    Thread: Bilstein PSS9 coilover installed

    1. Member JumpalTurbo5's Avatar
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      11-21-2004 05:54 PM #1
      After a long research, I finally decided to go with Bilstein PSS9.

      Installation was straightfoward, special thanks to my roommate and
      climbingcue (who installed PPS9 prior to me & gave all the tips).

      Here are the pictures I managed to take during & after installation.








      Lowered 0.75" front & 1.0" rear, dampening dialed at 2 front & 5 rear.
      So far, it's been great. More detailed review will come later.


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      11-21-2004 05:56 PM #2
      oh my, that living room is pure sex!

    3. 11-21-2004 05:57 PM #3
      are these adjustable.? rebound?

    4. 11-21-2004 06:05 PM #4
      is the ride harsh or comfortable? can you compare it to any other setups?

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      11-21-2004 06:11 PM #5
      Quote, originally posted by 4R32 »
      oh my, that living room is pure sex!

      Unfortunately, that's the only thing I am missing in my room now,
      if you know what I am crying for here.

      J/K. Thanks for the comment.


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      11-21-2004 06:13 PM #6
      Quote, originally posted by DeepFreeze »
      are these adjustable.? rebound?

      In short answer, yes, it is adjustable.
      In long answer... you could start here
      http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=1611317
      There are pictures of external adjust knob.

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      11-21-2004 06:14 PM #7
      perfect

      congrats


    8. 11-21-2004 06:17 PM #8
      very very nice Jae

    9. 11-21-2004 06:26 PM #9
      Nice work, looks great

      I'm contemplating between these and H&R PCS......


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      11-21-2004 07:43 PM #10
      I have one of those heavy duty floor jacks and am wondering where is the best place to put it so as not to cause any undercarriage damage.

    11. 11-21-2004 10:42 PM #11
      Does a coilover kit like this typically give you a weight gain or loss? I'd always assumed the former, but now that I see the hardware side by side I'm not so sure...

      My PSS9s go on Tuesday!


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      11-22-2004 01:47 AM #12
      Quote, originally posted by gruppe_a »
      Does a coilover kit like this typically give you a weight gain or loss? I'd always assumed the former, but now that I see the hardware side by side I'm not so sure...

      My PSS9s go on Tuesday!

      Installation went on from 6pm to 1am & I was too tired to weigh them
      side by side. However, I lifted both Front units together once and
      felt it was more or less the same. I would be interested in knowing
      the number if you could get it during your installation.


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      11-22-2004 07:58 AM #13
      Congrats!!! Glad you guys were able to install them without any problems...
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      11-22-2004 08:04 AM #14
      Billl - thanks again for your kindness.
      Although we are at the different end of the country,
      Keep in touch!

    15. 11-22-2004 12:36 PM #15
      nice unit!

    16. 11-22-2004 12:43 PM #16
      how much lower can you go than where you are sitting now??

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      11-22-2004 12:45 PM #17
      Looks great!

    18. 11-22-2004 01:23 PM #18
      glad everything went ok. is the H&R suspension adjustable?
      i know the Pss9 system is. I mean rebound adjustable, for track stiffness.

    19. 11-22-2004 01:33 PM #19
      also is the PSS9 system the one that the shock has to be removed from the car to adjust??

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      11-22-2004 01:38 PM #20
      The rears don't have to be removed, but I don't know about the fronts. The knob is on the bottom of the strut, so if you have clear access to the bottom then yes.
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      11-22-2004 01:54 PM #21
      The front can be adjusted by turning the wheel and reaching in and turning the knob, the backs can be adjusted without having too do anything special...
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      11-22-2004 02:42 PM #22
      What did you use to remove the outer strut nut for the front? Did you have access to air tools, or did you have the special tool that lets you hold the strut while removing the nut?

      - Anthony


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      11-22-2004 02:51 PM #23
      Quote, originally posted by Anthony@VWvortex »
      What did you use to remove the outer strut nut for the front? Did you have access to air tools, or did you have the special tool that lets you hold the strut while removing the nut?

      - Anthony

      I used Impact gun, and we also had the tool that spreads the part that holds the strut in... Not sure if that is what you are asking...

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      11-22-2004 02:52 PM #24
      Quote, originally posted by climbingcue »

      I used Impact gun, and we also had the tool that spreads the part that holds the strut in... Not sure if that is what you are asking...

      I was referring to the upper strut nut that you access via the engine bay.

      I have never had a problem with spreading the spindle to remove the strut itself... I believe I just stuck a flat head screw driver in there and spread.

      Where did you get the tool, however?


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      11-22-2004 03:28 PM #25
      Quote, originally posted by Anthony@VWvortex »

      I was referring to the upper strut nut that you access via the engine bay.

      I have never had a problem with spreading the spindle to remove the strut itself... I believe I just stuck a flat head screw driver in there and spread.

      Where did you get the tool, however?

      I borrowed the tool from my friend who helped me. Sorry I miss understood you about the nut on the top of the strut, I always use an Air impact gun to get that off...

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    26. 11-22-2004 04:45 PM #26
      Any initial impressions of the ride quality? Cornering performance?

    27. 11-22-2004 06:48 PM #27
      What wheels are those in the room?

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      11-22-2004 06:52 PM #28
      Looks like a black powdercoated BBS CH.
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      11-22-2004 08:06 PM #29
      Quote, originally posted by Anthony@VWvortex »
      What did you use to remove the outer strut nut for the front? Did you have access to air tools, or did you have the special tool that lets you hold the strut while removing the nut?

      - Anthony

      I had access to the air tools (from my friend's house), so it wasn't
      too difficult. I would still say Front strut removal was the most time-
      consuming process of all.

      Btw, I fabricated a spreader tool myself (grind VW OEM Security Key
      into oval shape, so I could twist with 17mm wrench). It took half an
      hour to make one (lots of grinding) and at the end, it was so hot that
      I had nice burn on my arm (first VW tatoo on me).

      So, I guess if you use wrench (not airtool) to remove upper strut nut,
      it twists? We found it's easy to 1. spread the lower sleeve, 2. Push the
      whole brake down, and 3. Finally remove the upper strut nut, to make
      it somewhat easier.


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      11-22-2004 08:11 PM #30
      Quote, originally posted by michael whittaker »
      What wheels are those in the room?

      Neez EuroCross 18x8 ET35 Front & 18x8.5 ET30 Rear.
      Currently in my trunk, waiting for installation, but
      I am at work!


    31. 11-22-2004 08:15 PM #31
      dammit, go home and out them on!

      kinda reming me of the Volk LE37's


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      11-22-2004 10:23 PM #32
      Quote, originally posted by cruzR32 »
      Any initial impressions of the ride quality? Cornering performance?

      So far, it's been only 2 days, but I drove over 100 miles on the
      various different situations. With dampeninig midly set at 2/9@front
      and 5/9@rear, it is not harsh at all. I almost feel it is as comfortable
      as stock setup, but somewhat firmer, if that makes sense. At this
      early point, all I can say is I have no problem about ride quality.

      As for cornering, I've been carrying new wheels, old suspensions, and
      other craps in my trunk all day long, so I didn't try attacking my
      favorite local turns yet. I can make some early comment about less
      rolling and smoother shifting due to less nose up & down. We'll see.


    33. 11-22-2004 10:37 PM #33
      need a more detailed review

    34. 11-22-2004 11:18 PM #34
      That is beautiful, I love seeing other BMP's. I think that is going to be one of my next mods.

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      11-23-2004 04:11 AM #35
      the front set up is EASILY doable before a track day. you turn the wheel full to one side, pull off the rubber, blue dust/grit cover and adjust. repeat on other side. put alittle oil inside the rubber cover and it'll go on and come off quite easily!!!!!!!

      rear is even easier

      setting 1 is stiffest, 9 is softest. why are you running the fronts stiffer? you'll get more oversteer by making the rears stiffer than the fronts. i run on #5 front/#4 rear as a daily setting and it's great. dial to #1 in rear for track days. just for reference, the non adj. PSS ones are fixed at a #5.

      also, i'm sure it'll come up soon enough. if you look right now at your rear spring while the wheel is on the car is on the ground, you'll see the coils touching. this IS supposed to be this way! the end, pig tail coils are what create the compression control of the spring.


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