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    Thread: C2 Motorsports OBD1 Forced Induction Software

    1. 12-17-2004 05:40 PM #1
      In an ongoing effort to develop quality software for forced-induction applications, C2Motorsports would like to introduce our long-anticipated OBD I software solutions. Many have come to regard C2 as an innovator in the realm of tuning for forced-induction Volkswagens.


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      12-17-2004 05:55 PM #2
      Is that on C2's Stage one VR turbo kit?
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      12-17-2004 06:06 PM #3
      Car specs:
      Obd1 Mk3 VR6 Golf (owned by The BIZ)
      Stock motor (no internal changes, no spacer HG )
      T4 60-1 turbo (.58 Hot side)
      2.5" TT exhaust system
      Boost : 9-10psi
      Pump gas.


      Software Specs:
      OBD1 Mk3 Golf/Jetta specific code
      24x24 Fuel and ignition maps added
      O2 loop control added (on when in vac, off when in boost)
      36# inj.
      C2 large MAF housing
      NO CEL's : Full emissions compliance


      Big UPs to Jacob Harris.
      He did the code mods.

      Big UPs to Frank 'The Biz' Bisogno.
      He stepped up with the car and the patience to wait while I made tuning software.

      Stay 'tuned'...

      Jeffrey Atwood

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      Funny how launch control and NLS were gimmicks when Matt bought it to med9.
      Now others are using it to make people think the sun shines out of their 4$$.

    4. 12-17-2004 06:23 PM #4
      Come on your not even going to put up the A/F's? I assume that is a p-trim?

    5. 12-17-2004 06:52 PM #5
      does this mean you can make a chip for my 3.0T with low comp?

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      12-17-2004 07:51 PM #6
      Quote, originally posted by lithguy »
      does this mean you can make a chip for my 3.0T with low comp?

      Sure, got a coilpack?

      Bring it up to CT.

      Jeff

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      Funny how launch control and NLS were gimmicks when Matt bought it to med9.
      Now others are using it to make people think the sun shines out of their 4$$.

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      12-17-2004 09:31 PM #7
      now you guys really need to make something for an OBD2 2.0 turbo

    8. 12-17-2004 09:55 PM #8
      Quote, originally posted by VR6-JettaIII »
      now you guys really need to make something for an OBD2 2.0 turbo

      agreed


      also may we please see the AFR


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      12-17-2004 10:11 PM #9
      I would like to first take this opportunity to thank Brad and everyone at the Vortex for helping C2 bring this GREAT news to the public. As we have ALL come to know, the Vortex is on the cutting-edge when it comes to bringing the best VW related information to the public.....

      I would also like to encourage everyone to post any questions or comments here regarding our newly released C2 software; we will do our best to answer ALL questions in a direct and timely manner.....

      There are several ways to enjoy your C2Motorsports' software:

      1. It can be purchased as an OBD I Fueing Kit, directly from C2Motorsports or from any C2 authorized reseller. This fueling kit will include the C2 Billet MAF housing, and the C2 OBD I EPROM (you can ship us your ECU and we will solder in a socket and install your chip). MSRP: $449. We also carry all appropriate fuel injectors, K&N filters, and silicone couplers for your one-stop shopping needs.

      2. C2 software can also be found in the VR6 Turbo kit from Kinetic Motorsport. Kinetic offers both OBD I and OBD II kits for the VR6 cars. Turbo kit include the C2 software making it the easiest, and most reliable VR6 Turbo Kit to install as it comes 'pre-tuned'


      I have invitied represtation from both companies to monitor this thread, in order to post relevant answers to your questions.
      If there is anything further that I may do for anyone, or if you would like to purchase our newest FI software, please do not hesitate to contact us, or one of our resellers:

      Email C2 Sales click here

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      Unforgettable Sound and Performance

      Thanks,

      Chris Collier
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      Modified by C2Motorsports at 11:22 PM 12-17-2004

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      12-17-2004 10:17 PM #10
      Good stuff,
      Congrats guys!!!!

      I'll see you in Ct soon, Jeff!
      Later,


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      12-17-2004 11:02 PM #11
      Quote, originally posted by C2Motorsports »

      ...don't worry, you are on our list ......


      C2

      ...now don't be a tease! How about OBD1 2.0 T?


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      12-17-2004 11:12 PM #12
      I'm glad I waited. So what's the price?
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    13. 12-17-2004 11:57 PM #13
      Does this mean the C2 SC kit for OBDI (specifcally: VR6 Corrado) is now for sale?

      TT


    14. 12-18-2004 12:11 AM #14
      Quote, originally posted by Teutonic »
      Does this mean the C2 SC kit for OBDI (specifcally: VR6 Corrado) is now for sale?

      TT

      WHAT HE SAID!!!


    15. 12-18-2004 12:12 AM #15
      i second that what about obd1 2.0T?????

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      12-18-2004 12:33 AM #16
      Quote, originally posted by Teutonic »
      Does this mean the C2 SC kit for OBDI (specifcally: VR6 Corrado) is now for sale?

      yeah but I think it applies to coilpack vehicles only and not distributor

      Everything I know about cars I learned by fixing things on my Corrado

    17. 12-18-2004 03:55 AM #17
      Im still waiting for the software for OBD1 dizzy

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      12-18-2004 07:49 AM #18
      I am in....... I can't wait to get the car on the road and drive it. this is the last thing I have been waiting on. wooohooo

    19. 12-18-2004 08:22 AM #19
      Quote, originally posted by Jefnes3 »
      Car specs:
      Obd1 Mk3 VR6 Golf (owned by The BIZ)
      Stock motor (no internal changes, no spacer HG )
      T4 60-1 turbo (.58 Hot side)
      2.5" TT exhaust system
      Boost : 9-10psi
      Pump gas.


      Software Specs:
      OBD1 Mk3 Golf/Jetta specific code
      24x24 Fuel and ignition maps added
      O2 loop control added (on when in vac, off when in boost)
      36# inj.
      C2 large MAF housing
      NO CEL's : Full emissions compliance


      Big UPs to Jacob Harris.
      He did the code mods.

      Big UPs to Frank 'The Biz' Bisogno.
      He stepped up with the car and the patience to wait while I made tuning software.

      Stay 'tuned'...

      Jeffrey Atwood

      Way to go Jeff.. I guess it is time to by a vr6 again!!!


    20. 12-18-2004 09:56 AM #20
      Quote, originally posted by -Norbert- »
      Im still waiting for the software for OBD1 dizzy

      WERD


    21. 12-18-2004 10:46 AM #21
      Quote, originally posted by Buddha92SLC »

      WERD


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      12-18-2004 11:41 AM #22
      Quote, originally posted by Jefnes3 »

      Software Specs:
      OBD1 Mk3 Golf/Jetta specific code
      24x24 Fuel and ignition maps added
      O2 loop control added (on when in vac, off when in boost)
      36# inj.
      C2 large MAF housing
      NO CEL's : Full emissions compliance

      Can you use #30 injectors w/ this software? or strictly #36?

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      12-18-2004 11:53 AM #23
      Quote, originally posted by vw vintage empire »

      Can you use #30 injectors w/ this software? or strictly #36?

      This particular software was designed on 36# so I figure there is nothing right now for 30#.
      Just a guess...

      Later,


    24. 12-18-2004 12:48 PM #24
      A/F ratios?

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      12-18-2004 01:54 PM #25
      Quote, originally posted by vw vintage empire »

      Can you use #30 injectors w/ this software? or strictly #36?

      36# inj.

      We (car owner and myself) decided this was the best sizing for his
      goals.

      Jeffrey Atwood

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      Funny how launch control and NLS were gimmicks when Matt bought it to med9.
      Now others are using it to make people think the sun shines out of their 4$$.

    26. 12-18-2004 06:19 PM #26
      Jeff is a chip god ! Other chip tuners should take a lesson from jeff!Thanks talk to you soon Jeff!

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      12-18-2004 06:57 PM #27
      Quote, originally posted by lithguy »
      A/F ratios?


      We are presently working on relocating the Wide Band sensor to the exhaust of the head so that we can provide updated, accurate AFR numbers to go along with our dyno plot.

      The sensor that we had was at the tailpipe, and does NOT accurately represent the AFR numbers. The rest of the power numbers are textbook, so we can only assume that as in our OBD II software, the AFR numbers are right on.....and dead straight As soon as we have them available, we will post them to view.

      Thanks for all of the compliments regarding C2 and our newest software product; We appreciate everyone's support, and will continue bringing the best
      C2 products to market throughout the new year


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    28. 12-18-2004 07:31 PM #28
      will you be able to offer a program for dizzy equiped obd 1 cars?

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      12-18-2004 11:54 PM #29
      Quote, originally posted by Jefnes3 »

      Software Specs:
      OBD1 Mk3 Golf/Jetta specific code
      Pump gas.

      2 questions.

      1) When you say "Golf/Jetta specific" does that mean it will only work with Golf/Jetta ecu codes?
      2)"Pump gas" would be what octane? (91 octane is the highest pump gas here in California)

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    30. 12-19-2004 01:42 AM #30
      Do you guys need a test motor for the OBD1 dist Software?

    31. 12-19-2004 03:47 AM #31
      oh man, there is alot of people waiting for dizzy stuff. I really hope the get that ish done sometime soon....if it all

      mad props to c2....good company for sure


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      12-19-2004 11:58 AM #32
      Quote, originally posted by vw vintage empire »

      1) When you say "Golf/Jetta specific" does that mean it will only work with Golf/Jetta ecu codes?
      2)"Pump gas" would be what octane? (91 octane is the highest pump gas here in California)


      1. The tune was done using code specific to the golf/jetta ecu's
      The coilpack Corrado code is significantly different, such that
      I will need to test the tune on a Corrado before release.
      (I can't just copy the map data from one to the other.)

      More importantly, the golf/jetta MAF sensor is identical to the Obd2 Mk3 sensor and so drops into our current large MAF housing.
      The hot wire sensor on the Corrado will require a newly designed
      MAF housing. (I am working on this now)

      I have donor SC and Turbo Corrados available, so its just 'work' now.


      2. The tune was created using 93 octane pump gas, but
      91 should be fine. (using the same pliosophy as the obd2 tunes)

      Jeffrey Atwood

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      Funny how launch control and NLS were gimmicks when Matt bought it to med9.
      Now others are using it to make people think the sun shines out of their 4$$.

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      12-19-2004 12:06 PM #33
      Thank You sir
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    34. 12-20-2004 12:33 AM #34
      A big for C2

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      12-20-2004 02:43 AM #35
      What I would love to see is this setup on a C2 super charger kit. Say with 3 diffrent pulley sizes...

      How is it going to work with my sort of set up.


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