1.8T Engine into B2/B3/B4 Frame

**1781cc** · 03-09-2006 11:09 PM

this is a real tempting project to take on. i really miss my CQ, part of the reason i sold it is lack of power/tuning besides a 3B swap but is too $$$$. hmm, i have been thinking of selling the S4.

**AudiRs2Porsche** · 03-19-2006 01:53 PM

i cant believe this was done

**bard90Q** · 03-19-2006 04:34 PM

how much do you think it would cost to buy a box kit s4 twin turbo engine? cuz it would be impossible to find a donor car and like benny said a s4 in a 90 would be amazing. i know quite a bit of work. but thats not a problem. just curious

**90quattro20v** · 04-02-2006 12:52 PM

I don't know how far-fetched this is, but does anyone know if the new 2.0FSIT (as in the new A4s) has similar mounting geometry compared to the 1.8t in this write-up? Or would this be a completely new problem?

Also, I guess we might run into the problem of if our 5-speeds would mount to this 2.0FSIT ?

Modified by 90quattro20v at 12:58 PM 4/2/2006

**Issam Abed** · 04-02-2006 01:28 PM

Quote, originally posted by AudiRs2Porsche »

i cant believe this was done

The 16V Craze is starting to take over now.Also you will find more and more people are interested in VR6 swaps.

Quote, originally posted by bard90Q »

how much do you think it would cost to buy a box kit s4 twin turbo engine? cuz it would be impossible to find a donor car and like benny said a s4 in a 90 would be amazing. i know quite a bit of work. but thats not a problem. just curious

How is an S4 in a 90 amazing?I saw one first hand when I went to visit Mike@Rombotis Tuning.The transplant itself was executed flawlessly and Mike did a hell of a job but I just dont find it appealing to me anymore.My passion for V6's has been lost after I took a ride in a VR6-Turbo.This is going to be my next goal...

Quote, originally posted by 90quattro20v »

I don't know how far-fetched this is, but does anyone know if the new 2.0FSIT (as in the new A4s) has similar mounting geometry compared to the 1.8t in this write-up? Or would this be a completely new problem?

The FSi uses the new style internal water pump block.You will have to build engine mount brackets (passenger & drivers side) in order to get it to fit into the B4- frames.

Quote, originally posted by 90quattro20v »

Also, I guess we might run into the problem of if our 5-speeds would mount to this 2.0FSIT ?

Should bolt up to a 01A just fine.

**bard90Q** · 04-02-2006 03:24 PM

would a vr6 actually fit in a 90 though? i mean two different types of cars. how much fab will it take?

**Issam Abed** · 04-02-2006 06:19 PM

Quote, originally posted by bard90Q »

would a vr6 actually fit in a 90 though? i mean two different types of cars

They managed to stuff a V8 into a 90,I think a VR6 would fit just fine.

Quote, originally posted by bard90Q »

how much fab will it take?

Alot...

**bard90Q** · 04-03-2006 03:02 PM

lol. thought so, but it would be very nice

**jettapropelled** · 04-24-2006 03:51 AM

I don't want to sound like a total newb.... but i am, at least to the Audi scene. ok so i picked up an '88 90 quattro and i've been intrigued by the 1.8t swap and was curious to know if you think it would be a similiar install. since my 90 is quattro would i need to grab a 1.8t out of another quattro? such as a passat 4-motion or an a4 1.8t.... long question, but like i said i'm new to the whole "audi quattro" scene, thanks for any input.

**cipri** · 05-08-2006 06:55 AM

what parts do i need i order to do the 1.8 t swap to my 1992 audi 80 b4 FWD 2.3 10v code NG ? what about the 2.0 tfsi swap?
Thanks

**Issam Abed** · 05-25-2006 10:50 PM

Quote, originally posted by jettapropelled »

since my 90 is quattro would i need to grab a 1.8t out of another quattro? such as a passat 4-motion or an a4 1.8t.

Any longitudinal 1.8T engine will be fine.If you want to do a direct swap into a B3 Quattro chassis then you will need the European B4 engine mount brackets.I have a pair for sale if your looking for them.

**PitViper** · 07-24-2006 08:23 PM

Who here has completed the swap of a 1.8t into a B4 90q?

**dub914** · 07-27-2006 12:14 AM

I really really really want to but all i have is a 1.8t cylinder head from a TT, I need an AEB longblock (cant afford one right now) and then ill tackle it

**Audi_8890** · 09-12-2006 01:42 AM

Later on I'd love to do this to my audi 90 but at the moment don't have the funds. Do you guys know where I could see some prices on the engines to kind of see how much I would need?

**vagrant_mugen** · 01-14-2007 01:07 PM

im very excited about this. i thought id get stuck spending money on an a4 to swap a 4cyl ABA16vT into.

if im fabbing my own mount brackets, as long as i use the 01a trannie i can
put a 4cyl into any b2/b3 quattro, right?

Modified by vagrant_mugen at 2:16 PM 1-14-2007

**BIG Tony** · 01-21-2007 04:07 PM

how do u wire an AEB into a B2/B3/B4? Do you have a diagram or something of that sort???/

**vagrant_mugen** · 01-21-2007 04:58 PM

why with an 034efi plug n play AEB wiring harness, of course. but that requires utilizing 034's efi standalone as well. go to 034motorsports.com and take a peak.

**SilverCQ** · 01-22-2007 09:15 AM

Quote, originally posted by vagrant_mugen »

im very excited about this. i thought id get stuck spending money on an a4 to swap a 4cyl ABA16vT into.

like this ;-)

thats my ABA/16Vt into a Coupe Quattro using 034 stage 1C

Modified by SilverCQ at 6:29 AM 1-22-2007

Modified by SilverCQ at 6:30 AM 1-22-2007

Modified by SilverCQ at 6:30 AM 1-22-2007

**vagrant_mugen** · 01-22-2007 06:54 PM

yes exactly like that. how do you like it?

thats what i want to a T. only difference is i want a gt35R on mine, tucking tire and loud as all hell.

**SilverCQ** · 01-22-2007 07:18 PM

man, i'd think a 35R would be laggy on one of these engines.......but when it kicked in it'd be a hell of a lot of fun

while i'd love power like that, i need power quickly for day to day street and the occasional track event...

**vagrant_mugen** · 02-03-2007 01:19 PM

sorry i meant 30R, i would like to shoot as close to killa's setup as possible: http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=2957055

only AWD without copying him, of course.

Modified by vagrant_mugen at 9:40 AM 2-6-2007

**Issam Abed** · 03-30-2007 12:41 AM

This thread is in need of an update...that information makes my head hurt when I read it.

What would you guys like to see?

**vagrant_mugen** · 04-05-2007 08:30 AM

anything quattro of course!

i found this on google: http://video.google.com/url?do...kyIcw

know of anymore quattro drifting?

Modified by vagrant_mugen at 5:31 AM 4-5-2007

**barrygti** · 04-06-2007 04:54 AM

Has anyone done a VR6 swap???

**vagrant_mugen** · 04-08-2007 09:18 AM

a 5cyl. 20v would be lighter and faster than a vr6.

but here you go anyway: http://www.034motorsport.com/p...d=665

Modified by vagrant_mugen at 6:21 AM 4-8-2007

**_Val** · 04-12-2007 08:16 AM

Quote, originally posted by Wizard-of-OD »

What would you guys like to see?

anything about fitting that engine to subframe without building mounts would be cool.
is there some mounts that can be used that way?

btw, some pictures from the swap like that but with welding.
haven't responded yet.
http://photofile.ru/users/spils/2468168/

**audipanzerwagen** · 04-12-2007 09:47 AM

This appears appealing to a great many 90/CQ owners who have become dis-enchanted with
their old engines and want too upgrade. They see that the 20Vt engines are passe and that the 1.8T has so many tuning possibilties and has modern updates available.
The cost of updating to 1.8T being cheaper that a 20VT has to be considered.

So in this instance...wouldn't a manual of how to be a good idea? A book such as that would
not only be a finacial boon to anyone willing too undertake such an endeavor but also spread the gospel of the magic of a 1.8T in a B3/B4 body

**vagrant_mugen** · 04-12-2007 09:16 PM

its very easy:

step 1, remove I-5 from transmission and engine bay.

step 2, buy ; 4 cyl. of your choice
euro mount brackets
audi a4 AEB clutch/flywheel
a4 AEB oil pan & pump pickup,
AEB oil filter flange
and an efi of your choice

step 3, install brackets on engine, clutch on the crank, put the enigine in the bay, and plug in the electrics.

somebody else needs to post pics.

Modified by vagrant_mugen at 2:02 PM 4-21-2007

**SilverCQ** · 04-14-2007 10:37 AM

what pics ya want?

**MFZERO** · 04-14-2007 11:40 AM

dude, you are an evil person

looks like I need an aba block and to pull my 16v out of my gti and put it in the 90

**SilverCQ** · 04-15-2007 06:11 PM

ABA's are a great block to start with

**NoNonsense** · 04-17-2007 04:57 PM

Quote, originally posted by SilverCQ »

ABA's are a great block to start with

**SilverCQ** · 04-17-2007 05:49 PM

Joe, we need your pics so they can see how to really do it

**audipanzerwagen** · 04-18-2007 08:57 AM

say that the 1.8 is not worth the problem? I think it's a great swap and can't be any worse in putting into a CQ than a 20Vt engine. I think a 1.8 might even be easier....No?

**NoNonsense** · 04-18-2007 10:40 AM

Quote, originally posted by SilverCQ »

Joe, we need your pics so they can see how to really do it

perhaps, but i'm not using any of the engine mounts outlined in this thread.

VWVortex

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