16V G60 - How to

**ozzman_g7** · 10-02-2006 12:32 PM

Quote, originally posted by ozzman_g7 »

If I did all this work, then wanted to put a 20v head later on, will it be easier to do this or would I need to change the pistons again, and relocate the alt again? etc.

thanks

Anyone??

**jwatts** · 10-05-2006 11:35 PM

Thought you guys would like a peak at the latest incarnation of one of the local 16Vg60s here in the ATL.
2L head with supertech valves and portwork with some cat cams.
8.5:1 wiseco pistons
big fmic
78mm pulley and aobut 4psi boost... awaiting 68mm pulley.
notice that there's no welding on the intake

**numbnuts** · 10-06-2006 06:45 AM

Man this thread has been useful. Am in the mock up stage atm. Mk1 16v g60 here we come.

**L8 APEKS** · 10-06-2006 12:37 PM

re: Eaton M90...

If you do use it, post pics/measurements of the brackets. That's the only thing holding many people back from using it...people do one-offs and keep everything a secret.

Make a few extra sets and sell them here, or post the measurements so we can fab them up locally!

**OttawaG60** · 10-08-2006 06:57 PM

Quote, originally posted by jwatts »

Thought you guys would like a peak at the latest incarnation of one of the local 16Vg60s here in the ATL.
2L head with supertech valves and portwork with some cat cams.
8.5:1 wiseco pistons
big fmic
78mm pulley and aobut 4psi boost... awaiting 68mm pulley.
notice that there's no welding on the intake

What fuel rail is that?

**Issam Abed** · 10-08-2006 07:33 PM

Quote, originally posted by OttawaG60 »

What fuel rail is that?

AWP 1.8T

**inkfreak74x9** · 10-13-2006 11:20 PM

One of my customers had the mount bracket that is in BBM's picture on his 2.0L, so I asked if he had another from his engine swap and he did. That fixed that problem so I knocked some $ off his repair bill for the part. He told me his friend did the same BBM kit on a Jetts III and told me he would stop by so I could take a peek. 9 days latter, I still aint seen it.

**inkfreak74x9** · 10-13-2006 11:32 PM

I have an old Bosch air flow meter(vane type) that was originally in the car. What do I use for air metering now?
I dont know if I skipped over that part in all the reading I have done. Also quick question,what alternator with serp. belt pulley will drop on to BBM's relocate bracket?

**BI-G60** · 10-14-2006 10:57 AM

Hello and this is my engine!

**BI-G60** · 10-14-2006 11:04 AM

Modified by BI-G60 at 8:08 AM 10-14-2006

**TehLonz** · 10-15-2006 09:52 AM

lol , like that catch can mounting

**TehLonz** · 10-15-2006 09:54 AM

Quote, originally posted by jwatts »

Thought you guys would like a peak at the latest incarnation of one of the local 16Vg60s here in the ATL.
2L head with supertech valves and portwork with some cat cams.
8.5:1 wiseco pistons
big fmic
78mm pulley and aobut 4psi boost... awaiting 68mm pulley.
notice that there's no welding on the intake

ATL is now the new home of 16vg60's ... bryson , mike... now this guy

**BI-G60** · 10-15-2006 01:14 PM

ok looks bad,but i must never empty the oil catcher!

**OttawaG60** · 10-15-2006 05:31 PM

BI-G60 - what radiator did you use with that intercooler?

**TehLonz** · 10-15-2006 05:52 PM

Quote, originally posted by BI-G60 »

ok looks bad,but i must never empty the oil catcher!

its just weird mounting thats all.

**BI-G60** · 10-15-2006 07:47 PM

Hello!

this is a Golf MK2 GTD radiator plus vr6 radiator fan!The original g60 radiator is smaller.

**OttawaG60** · 10-15-2006 08:19 PM

Quote »

Golf MK2 GTD radiator

What is a GTD? do you have a part number?

**BI-G60** · 10-15-2006 09:03 PM

@OttawaG60

i have forget to say, itÂ´s a turbo diesel 1,6l 80HP,engine code:SB.And i have installed the plastic side box from G60 radiator in these!!!

**JBETZ** · 10-17-2006 01:10 PM

4 kits remaining
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=2450792

**Scuba2001** · 10-17-2006 06:14 PM

This sucks so much, becaue I need a kit so bad to get my engine build underway, but dont even have any cash..
Im going to be left without a kit

**TehLonz** · 10-17-2006 06:33 PM

Quote, originally posted by Scuba2001 »

This sucks so much, becaue I need a kit so bad to get my engine build underway, but dont even have any cash..
Im going to be left without a kit

you dont need a damn kit..

**2deepn2dubs** · 10-20-2006 02:47 AM

thinking of putting a 16v head on my pg, but i dont want to pull pistons, or my motor... any other options?? great thread btw

**JBETZ** · 10-20-2006 10:28 AM

Quote, originally posted by 2deepn2dubs »

thinking of putting a 16v head on my pg, but i dont want to pull pistons, or my motor... any other options?? great thread btw

The G60 pistons have a big fat scavenger boss sticking up.
You will need to swap out the pistons or go with a true 16V engine or an ABA 2.0L 8V engine.

**2deepn2dubs** · 10-21-2006 05:25 AM

thats what i was afraid of

ill prolly leave my jetta alone and build an 16v g60 for my caddy...

**2deepn2dubs** · 10-25-2006 05:12 AM

heres mine so far, i think im going to go with the aba alt tho... does anyone have any more pics of alts mounted under the charger to the charger brkt? ...also, is it ok to run the waterpump backwards?

**kindbudz91G60** · 10-26-2006 01:39 PM

Quote, originally posted by Scuba2001 »

This sucks so much, becaue I need a kit so bad to get my engine build underway, but dont even have any cash..
Im going to be left without a kit

And we all know how awesome the BBM kit is... It doesn't come with one scrap of paper that tells anything about the products or how to install them. Also, the aluminum bracket that the tensioner mounts too (and slips on the charger bracket) is siezed on my G-60 bracket.

When the tensioner bracket siezed on the charger bracket it stopped the tensioner from doing anything and locked the serp belt under tension. This in turn was too tight on the supercharger and smoked the mainshaft bearings and seals. Now, the charger passes oil right down the mainshaft seals...sweet design BBM.

Then when I asked John about this he said "no that's never happened before, but I might put a grease zerk in the tensioner bracket if I were you". Well John, that would have been a good idea for YOU to do, since you're selling the kits. Oh yeah, sorry I don't have the $3K to buy your Lysholm, but my G-60 WAS working just fine.

Long story short the BBM "kit" gets you pointed in the right direction, but certainly is not a turnkey kit, nor is it engineered that well. For the cost I would try to source the components used on the net.

$0.02 exactly.

**TehLonz** · 10-26-2006 05:27 PM

Quote, originally posted by 2deepn2dubs »

heres mine so far, i think im going to go with the aba alt tho... does anyone have any more pics of alts mounted under the charger to the charger brkt? ...also, is it ok to run the waterpump backwards?

ahem

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=2610427

**Issam Abed** · 10-26-2006 08:48 PM

Quote, originally posted by 2deepn2dubs »

...also, is it ok to run the waterpump backwards?

Considering the vanes on the waterpump are clockwise,I would not run them counterclockwise.In order to make the ABA alternator fit,you have to do some grinding of the AC supports on the charger bracket.The ABA alternator does work though and your going to want to run your belt system something similar to this:

**2deepn2dubs** · 10-27-2006 02:48 AM

ok, sweet! that looks alot less confusing and looks like pretty good routing...

does it matter if the donor pg parts are from a '92 obd1???

what else will i need from the pg besides the following...

G60 throttlebody
G60 engine harness/ecu
G60 Fuel Injectors
G60 Idle stabilizer valve (ISV)
G60 CO% potentiometer
G60 Lower water pump pipe
Upper and lower coolant hoses
G60 Radiator

can you think of anything else?

Modified by 2deepn2dubs at 11:56 PM 10-26-2006

**herby53-akaherby53** · 10-27-2006 10:17 AM

Quote, originally posted by kindbudz91G60 »

It doesn't come with one scrap of paper that tells anything about the products or how to install them.

the BBM "kit" gets you pointed in the right direction, but certainly is not a turnkey kit,

$0.02 exactly.

that is for sure . thats why i made my build pages cause i couldnt fin everything in one place . I spent hours looking at the BBM picture to figure out how to get it on right . The Yahoo group is good , but the information is so scattered around and hard to fine . this post helped alot for me .....

for this thread

oh and for mine

**OttawaG60** · 10-27-2006 01:11 PM

Be careful with the size of the alt down below the charger, I know I had problems with it hitting (ever so slightly) the subframe.
There are some tiny alt's out there, might be worth whole looking at.

**2deepn2dubs** · 10-27-2006 02:27 PM

Quote, originally posted by Wizard-of-OD »

this looks like the g60 alt... your right, looks like it will hit the subframe... ? ...i think the aba alt is smaller...

Modified by 2deepn2dubs at 11:28 AM 10-27-2006

**2deepn2dubs** · 10-27-2006 04:50 PM

so anyone know, does it matter if the donor pg parts are from a '92 obd1???

**TehLonz** · 10-27-2006 05:02 PM

Quote, originally posted by 2deepn2dubs »

so anyone know, does it matter if the donor pg parts are from a '92 obd1???

what parts are you planning on using?

**2deepn2dubs** · 10-27-2006 09:09 PM

Is there a difference in these parts between obd1 and obd exempt?
G60 Fuel Injectors and FPR
G60 Idle stabilizer valve (ISV)
G60 Digifant1 ECU and engine wire harness
G60 Digifant control relay
G60 Oxygen sensor
G60 Water temperature sensor (blue)
G60 CO% potentiometer
G60 Relays, fuel pump
G60 Lower water pump pipe
Upper and lower coolant hoses
G60 Radiator and fan assembly

Modified by 2deepn2dubs at 6:11 PM 10-27-2006

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