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    Thread: 16V G60 - How to

    1. 10-02-2006 12:32 PM #491
      Quote, originally posted by ozzman_g7 »
      If I did all this work, then wanted to put a 20v head later on, will it be easier to do this or would I need to change the pistons again, and relocate the alt again? etc.

      thanks

      Anyone??


    2. 10-05-2006 11:35 PM #492
      Thought you guys would like a peak at the latest incarnation of one of the local 16Vg60s here in the ATL.
      2L head with supertech valves and portwork with some cat cams.
      8.5:1 wiseco pistons
      big fmic
      78mm pulley and aobut 4psi boost... awaiting 68mm pulley.
      notice that there's no welding on the intake


    3. 10-06-2006 06:45 AM #493
      Man this thread has been useful. Am in the mock up stage atm. Mk1 16v g60 here we come.

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      10-06-2006 12:37 PM #494
      re: Eaton M90...

      If you do use it, post pics/measurements of the brackets. That's the only thing holding many people back from using it...people do one-offs and keep everything a secret.

      Make a few extra sets and sell them here, or post the measurements so we can fab them up locally!

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    5. 10-08-2006 06:57 PM #495
      Quote, originally posted by jwatts »
      Thought you guys would like a peak at the latest incarnation of one of the local 16Vg60s here in the ATL.
      2L head with supertech valves and portwork with some cat cams.
      8.5:1 wiseco pistons
      big fmic
      78mm pulley and aobut 4psi boost... awaiting 68mm pulley.
      notice that there's no welding on the intake

      What fuel rail is that?


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      10-08-2006 07:33 PM #496
      Quote, originally posted by OttawaG60 »
      What fuel rail is that?

      AWP 1.8T

    7. 10-13-2006 11:20 PM #497
      One of my customers had the mount bracket that is in BBM's picture on his 2.0L, so I asked if he had another from his engine swap and he did. That fixed that problem so I knocked some $ off his repair bill for the part. He told me his friend did the same BBM kit on a Jetts III and told me he would stop by so I could take a peek. 9 days latter, I still aint seen it.

    8. 10-13-2006 11:32 PM #498
      I have an old Bosch air flow meter(vane type) that was originally in the car. What do I use for air metering now?
      I dont know if I skipped over that part in all the reading I have done. Also quick question,what alternator with serp. belt pulley will drop on to BBM's relocate bracket?

    9. 10-14-2006 10:57 AM #499
      Hello and this is my engine!





    10. 10-14-2006 11:04 AM #500




      Modified by BI-G60 at 8:08 AM 10-14-2006


    11. 10-15-2006 09:52 AM #501
      lol , like that catch can mounting
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    12. 10-15-2006 09:54 AM #502
      Quote, originally posted by jwatts »
      Thought you guys would like a peak at the latest incarnation of one of the local 16Vg60s here in the ATL.
      2L head with supertech valves and portwork with some cat cams.
      8.5:1 wiseco pistons
      big fmic
      78mm pulley and aobut 4psi boost... awaiting 68mm pulley.
      notice that there's no welding on the intake


      ATL is now the new home of 16vg60's ... bryson , mike... now this guy

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    13. 10-15-2006 01:14 PM #503
      ok looks bad,but i must never empty the oil catcher!

    14. 10-15-2006 05:31 PM #504
      BI-G60 - what radiator did you use with that intercooler?

    15. 10-15-2006 05:52 PM #505
      Quote, originally posted by BI-G60 »
      ok looks bad,but i must never empty the oil catcher!

      its just weird mounting thats all.

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    16. 10-15-2006 07:47 PM #506
      Hello!

      this is a Golf MK2 GTD radiator plus vr6 radiator fan!The original g60 radiator is smaller.


    17. 10-15-2006 08:19 PM #507
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      Golf MK2 GTD radiator

      What is a GTD? do you have a part number?


    18. 10-15-2006 09:03 PM #508
      @OttawaG60

      i have forget to say, it´s a turbo diesel 1,6l 80HP,engine code:SB.And i have installed the plastic side box from G60 radiator in these!!!


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      10-17-2006 06:14 PM #510
      This sucks so much, becaue I need a kit so bad to get my engine build underway, but dont even have any cash..
      Im going to be left without a kit
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    21. 10-17-2006 06:33 PM #511
      Quote, originally posted by Scuba2001 »
      This sucks so much, becaue I need a kit so bad to get my engine build underway, but dont even have any cash..
      Im going to be left without a kit

      you dont need a damn kit..

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      10-20-2006 02:47 AM #512
      thinking of putting a 16v head on my pg, but i dont want to pull pistons, or my motor... any other options?? great thread btw

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      10-20-2006 10:28 AM #513
      Quote, originally posted by 2deepn2dubs »
      thinking of putting a 16v head on my pg, but i dont want to pull pistons, or my motor... any other options?? great thread btw

      The G60 pistons have a big fat scavenger boss sticking up.
      You will need to swap out the pistons or go with a true 16V engine or an ABA 2.0L 8V engine.

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      10-21-2006 05:25 AM #514
      thats what i was afraid of ill prolly leave my jetta alone and build an 16v g60 for my caddy...

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      10-25-2006 05:12 AM #515
      heres mine so far, i think im going to go with the aba alt tho... does anyone have any more pics of alts mounted under the charger to the charger brkt? ...also, is it ok to run the waterpump backwards?

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      10-26-2006 01:39 PM #516
      Quote, originally posted by Scuba2001 »
      This sucks so much, becaue I need a kit so bad to get my engine build underway, but dont even have any cash..
      Im going to be left without a kit

      And we all know how awesome the BBM kit is... It doesn't come with one scrap of paper that tells anything about the products or how to install them. Also, the aluminum bracket that the tensioner mounts too (and slips on the charger bracket) is siezed on my G-60 bracket.

      When the tensioner bracket siezed on the charger bracket it stopped the tensioner from doing anything and locked the serp belt under tension. This in turn was too tight on the supercharger and smoked the mainshaft bearings and seals. Now, the charger passes oil right down the mainshaft seals...sweet design BBM.

      Then when I asked John about this he said "no that's never happened before, but I might put a grease zerk in the tensioner bracket if I were you". Well John, that would have been a good idea for YOU to do, since you're selling the kits. Oh yeah, sorry I don't have the $3K to buy your Lysholm, but my G-60 WAS working just fine.

      Long story short the BBM "kit" gets you pointed in the right direction, but certainly is not a turnkey kit, nor is it engineered that well. For the cost I would try to source the components used on the net.

      $0.02 exactly.


    27. 10-26-2006 05:27 PM #517
      Quote, originally posted by 2deepn2dubs »
      heres mine so far, i think im going to go with the aba alt tho... does anyone have any more pics of alts mounted under the charger to the charger brkt? ...also, is it ok to run the waterpump backwards?

      ahem

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      10-26-2006 08:48 PM #518
      Quote, originally posted by 2deepn2dubs »
      ...also, is it ok to run the waterpump backwards?

      Considering the vanes on the waterpump are clockwise,I would not run them counterclockwise.In order to make the ABA alternator fit,you have to do some grinding of the AC supports on the charger bracket.The ABA alternator does work though and your going to want to run your belt system something similar to this:

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      10-27-2006 02:48 AM #519
      ok, sweet! that looks alot less confusing and looks like pretty good routing...

      does it matter if the donor pg parts are from a '92 obd1???

      what else will i need from the pg besides the following...

      G60 throttlebody
      G60 engine harness/ecu
      G60 Fuel Injectors
      G60 Idle stabilizer valve (ISV)
      G60 CO% potentiometer
      G60 Lower water pump pipe
      Upper and lower coolant hoses
      G60 Radiator

      can you think of anything else?





      Modified by 2deepn2dubs at 11:56 PM 10-26-2006


    30. 10-27-2006 10:17 AM #520
      Quote, originally posted by kindbudz91G60 »
      It doesn't come with one scrap of paper that tells anything about the products or how to install them.

      the BBM "kit" gets you pointed in the right direction, but certainly is not a turnkey kit,

      $0.02 exactly.


      that is for sure . thats why i made my build pages cause i couldnt fin everything in one place . I spent hours looking at the BBM picture to figure out how to get it on right . The Yahoo group is good , but the information is so scattered around and hard to fine . this post helped alot for me .....


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    31. 10-27-2006 01:11 PM #521
      Be careful with the size of the alt down below the charger, I know I had problems with it hitting (ever so slightly) the subframe.
      There are some tiny alt's out there, might be worth whole looking at.

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      10-27-2006 02:27 PM #522
      Quote, originally posted by Wizard-of-OD »

      this looks like the g60 alt... your right, looks like it will hit the subframe... ? ...i think the aba alt is smaller...


      Modified by 2deepn2dubs at 11:28 AM 10-27-2006

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      10-27-2006 04:50 PM #523
      so anyone know, does it matter if the donor pg parts are from a '92 obd1???


    34. 10-27-2006 05:02 PM #524
      Quote, originally posted by 2deepn2dubs »
      so anyone know, does it matter if the donor pg parts are from a '92 obd1???

      what parts are you planning on using?

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      10-27-2006 09:09 PM #525
      Is there a difference in these parts between obd1 and obd exempt?
      G60 Fuel Injectors and FPR
      G60 Idle stabilizer valve (ISV)
      G60 Digifant1 ECU and engine wire harness
      G60 Digifant control relay
      G60 Oxygen sensor
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      G60 Relays, fuel pump
      G60 Lower water pump pipe
      Upper and lower coolant hoses
      G60 Radiator and fan assembly




      Modified by 2deepn2dubs at 6:11 PM 10-27-2006


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