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    1. 10-15-2008 09:52 PM #51
      thanks for the info.

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      10-20-2008 12:54 PM #52
      I've got a 91 GTi with ABA swap and cam upgrade.
      Am I correct that the cam change would put me into SM? I think I would get killed.
      Maybe it would be better to run my 07 Passat 2.0T instead!
      Any Auto X clubs in CT? I am interested in getting into this

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      10-25-2008 02:10 PM #53
      can i put a 16v into a '91 8v GTI and still run in FSP because of update/backdate rules? I want to try to stay out of SM for this next year

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      01-14-2009 12:06 PM #54
      http://www.silverstateclassic....n.htm
      anyone ever race in this race?
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      01-14-2009 01:51 PM #55
      Quote, originally posted by joefis23 »
      can i put a 16v into a '91 8v GTI and still run in FSP because of update/backdate rules? I want to try to stay out of SM for this next year

      Yes, I believe you can, and it will make for quite a competitive car if setup fully and properly. The 8v cars were a little lighter than the 16v's, and with the allowed mod's you can make to the motor in SP, you can easily get 135whp or more out of it. Of course, this means a full overhaul of the engine, boring it over to the allowed max, port matching the head 1" into the ports, porting the intake manifold/possibly building a short runner, running standalone, custom built header and 2.5" exhaust, etc... It will take some money to make it completely competitive nationally, but on a local level, just drop the 16v in with a header and exhaust and have fun.
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      01-17-2009 09:52 AM #56
      here's a good video for first timers to watch about what goes on.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cDsmBexSd8

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      07-05-2009 03:53 PM #57
      I have a MKIV R32. I go to events to watch and am looking to start participating in the near future. Below is a list of mods I have, let me know what class you think they'll put me in. I'm going to get into it mostly for fun so I'm not too worried about what cars I'll be running against.
      VF Stage 2 Superchager(not installed yet)
      HPA CVP Intake manifold
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      Stock 18x7.5 wheels with all season tires (Looking for OZ Alleggerita's or Ultra's as summer wheel)
      The Charger is in my garage so I was wondering what class I would be in with and without it.
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      07-06-2009 12:56 AM #58
      can't go thru and look it all up right now, but the links on here should be a help for you
      http://www.indyscca.org/SoloPage.html
      for reference I am running a local version of SM class w/ street tires, my mods are KW v3's, camber plates, rear adjustable lca's, rear adjustable sway, unibrace, vflow, vf motor mounts, front lsd, bhpp, stock exhaust w/ flapper, no ecu flash yet, tyrolsport caliper bushings, carbotech pads, street werks clutch, and a few more things


      Modified by schmuck at 10:01 PM 7-5-2009

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      07-06-2009 08:08 PM #59
      Thanks for the quick response man From what i've read, it looks like I might be SP without the charger, and SM with it.
      I'm just wondering about where the intake manifold puts me. I didn't see much about that.


      Modified by SlamdSLC at 12:15 AM 7-7-2009

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      07-07-2009 08:28 AM #60
      I think the intake manifold drops you into SM anyway, so you might as well install your supercharger. SP doesn't allow very many engine modifications.

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      07-07-2009 09:05 PM #61
      Right on [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

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      10-31-2009 03:46 PM #62
      I've got an 04.5 GLI thats chipped, 3" TBE with high flow cat, APR 93 tune, CAI, Forge DV but otherwise stock. One street tires what class would I run?
      And If I was to put on some R compounds on another set of wheels (probably not the stock BBS's and probably 16") what would I be looking at?
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    13. 12-02-2009 01:13 AM #63
      I've got a 2003 GTI 2.8L and I need to know what Street Touring classification it falls under. I'm going to build the car to the limits of the class so I would like to know the slowest class is allowed in. It has less and 3.1L NA, rims 7.5 inches wide stock and tires are only 225mm wide so I think I can get away with STS. Am I correct?

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      02-02-2010 10:50 AM #64
      Quote, originally posted by AutoXMan »
      Also:
      How do I class my car? (SCCA and clubs that use SCCA rules)
      For starters, take a look at a worksheet like this one:
      http://www.scca-milwaukee.org/...n.pdf
      This will give you a basic idea of which class you go into: Stock, Street Touring, Street Prepared, Street Modified, Prepared, or Modified. The lists above are also good, but this chart will help quite a bit.
      Then read the rules pertaining to that class. You can find the online rulebook here:
      http://www.scca.com/_filelibra...s.pdf
      You may find that there are other items you have that are illegal for that class - or you might get some ideas on what to optimized to better yourself in a given class. For instance - you put on a rear swaybar and that's all you did. That puts you in Street Touring or Street Prepared. Well, those classes also allow camber adjusters, coilovers, etc. So you can take advantages of the rules in that class instead of trying to bump down into stock.
      Lastly, refer to Appendix A of the rulebook. Find the class you are in (say, Street Prepared) and then look for your car. If you have, say - an RX8 you will find it listed under 'Class B'. So you are competing in B, Street Prepared. Or BSP for short.
      Note: Stock class is NOT SLOW. It is relatively cheap, but that plus R compound tires make the class extremely competitive. I daresay that Street Touring is a generally slower class. Some regions may offer 'Street Tire' classes. These will allow you to run stock class rules with street tires (or SP, SM rules). Check with your region to find out what they do.

      The link to the classification worksheet isn't working... the new address is
      http://www.scca-milwaukee.org/...n.pdf
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      03-17-2010 06:55 PM #65
      Quote, originally posted by 20DYNAMITE07 »
      The link to the classification worksheet isn't working... the new address is
      http://www.scca-milwaukee.org/...n.pdf

      That is a bit dated. This years rules can be found here:
      http://www.scca.org/documents/...s.pdf
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    16. 06-02-2010 04:59 PM #66
      any engine swap puts you in sm?

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      11-03-2010 09:38 PM #67
      This is a great video. Lets add it to the first post.

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      07-27-2011 08:29 PM #68
      Quote Originally Posted by rcdg60 View Post
      any engine swap puts you in sm?
      If you change from the original engine yes. Autox classes are mostly meant for stock cars that have different preparation levels. Generaly speaking, engine swaps yeild large increases in performance so they are eliminated from most classes to keep it fair.

      That is not to say you cannot autox your car though, having it in a certain class will have no bearing on how fun it is to flog the crap out of your car!

    19. 09-07-2011 03:45 AM #69
      Quote Originally Posted by Mhyrr View Post
      Lots of great info in the Tech Files here:
      http://www.conecrazy.org/
      yeah and those info i got really significant!great!!!

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      12-13-2011 11:39 AM #70
      I currently have a 98 passat sedan. Mild turbo swap. No suspension upgrades. Would I be able to just drive up and run?

      Is there any other b5 guys running autocross that could give a beginner on which upgrades to make and which not to make.

      I am assuming that I'd be in the street class and not prepared.

    21. 12-13-2011 03:43 PM #71
      Quote Originally Posted by B518tko4 View Post
      I currently have a 98 passat sedan. Mild turbo swap. No suspension upgrades. Would I be able to just drive up and run?

      Is there any other b5 guys running autocross that could give a beginner on which upgrades to make and which not to make.

      I am assuming that I'd be in the street class and not prepared.
      If you are planning to run with a club that runs SCCA rules your turbo swap will most likely move you to SM, which is street modified. Don't get caught up in the classing, just come out and drive and have fun. I would not change anything on the car, learning how to drive around the faults of a particular car will make you a better driver. Acquire the skills > then make the mods to the car. Good Luck

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      12-13-2011 04:28 PM #72
      Thanks man. I'm from pa and as soon as spring hits I'm hitting the course. I been to a few and it looks like so much fun. I can't wait.

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      12-13-2011 04:30 PM #73
      I'm assuming you do this for fun. Is there anything I'll need to enter.

    24. 12-14-2011 12:07 PM #74
      Quote Originally Posted by B518tko4 View Post
      I'm assuming you do this for fun. Is there anything I'll need to enter.
      Fun has become an obsession.

      To enter, make sure your car mechanically is in good shape, it will have to pass a tech inspection which looks for anything obviously loose and dangerous, bad wheel bearings, loose battery, loose items in the interior, etc. Almost every club has loaner helmets, but you will want your own soon enough, make sure it is SNELL rated as either a SA or M 2010 designation, If you plan to do track days then I would focus on the SA rated helmets. Best bet, check out the website for to club that is organizing the events you plan to enter and read everything you can. Additionally there is a great website, AutoX4u.com, click the novice link on the the right hand side and start reading.

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      12-14-2011 07:41 PM #75
      Thanks alot. I have been getting this bug since I saw goodguys autocross. Ever seen Detroit speeds 70 camaro. Any how thanks again and hopefully I will be autocrossing in the spring.

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