High-altitude pulley for NS Supercharger

**Merlin703** · 10-05-2002 02:28 AM

Don't you have a contact at Neuspeed, JettaRed? I would appreciate a call from you to them to ask about how the chip thing goes or if you can give me a number. Not sure whats going on. I will get to the bottom off it though.

**JettaRed** · 10-05-2002 06:39 AM

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Don't you have a contact at Neuspeed, JettaRed? I would appreciate a call from you to them to ask about how the chip thing goes or if you can give me a number. Not sure whats going on. I will get to the bottom off it though.

Their number is 800-423-3623. Ask for Jeff Lowell or Greg Woo.

**Merlin703** · 10-05-2002 12:21 PM

Turns out they did burn a custom chip for me. So, I guess I am waiting for the p&p now. I appreciate your help JettaRed. The guy that is working on my car is apparently good friends with Greg Woo. Thats why he got the custom chip I guess. Oh well. I still can't wait to get my car back.

Good things come to those who wait.

**Lotust** · 10-05-2002 01:45 PM

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Turns out they did burn a custom chip for me. So, I guess I am waiting for the p&p now. I appreciate your help JettaRed. The guy that is working on my car is apparently good friends with Greg Woo. Thats why he got the custom chip I guess. Oh well. I still can't wait to get my car back.
Good things come to those who wait.

Lol i want a custom chip now!!

**2kjettaguy** · 10-05-2002 03:33 PM

Me too!

**Merlin703** · 10-05-2002 07:44 PM

lol

Doesn't sound so bad does it.

**Merlin703** · 10-08-2002 12:15 AM

Wow, I just finished reading this whole thread. My god I feel like i just got a college education.

Still waiting for the P&P. As soon as i get it you guys will be the first to know.
I will be getting the 2.6 pulley, but what belt do i need????

I don't even have my car back yet, and look at me. Still looking for more mods to do.

**inovillo** · 10-08-2002 08:15 AM

I believe you don't have to change the belt with the 2.6" pulley, just make sure you adjust the tensioner all the way.
Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong

**Lotust** · 10-08-2002 09:12 PM

anyone get a CEL out of the blue?

1 DTC's Found:
17535 - Fuel Trim: Bank 1 (Mult): System too Rich
35-10 - - - Intermittent

Im sure this is from the 4 bar FPR but i hate the light on

**DblYeloRado** · 10-09-2002 05:31 AM

thats the pulley i had and i gauantee you that if you use it you will have 0 psi . it is smaller

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Are the underdrive kits using a smaller crank pulley and larger accessory pullies?
Bringing the underdrive crank pulley topic up again. I was sifting through some posts and found this:
FYI, yes for the A3 2.0s Unorthodox only offers the crank pulley. It is a lightened pulley only; It is geometrically the same size as stock, so it won't affect belt sizes or supercharger boost or any of that..

So I guess it can be used with the supercharger

**JettaRed** · 10-09-2002 06:52 AM

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anyone get a CEL out of the blue?
1 DTC's Found:
17535 - Fuel Trim: Bank 1 (Mult): System too Rich
35-10 - - - Intermittent
Im sure this is from the 4 bar FPR but i hate the light on

There has to be something else wrong. Are you using stock injectors? Is your air filter clogged? Do you have a vacuum leak somewhere? Could be a bad MAF or O2 sensor.

The 4 bar with the Neuspeed chip should not cause that code.

**Lotust** · 10-09-2002 07:44 AM

thanks Jetta red. Ill look into what you say.

Yes i have stock injectors
Nope filter is not clogged.
No vaccume leaks Not that i can tell from my gauge
Maybe the 02 sensor is shot.

**Velocity731** · 10-09-2002 08:15 PM

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Hey guys...I just got my L/W flywheel from autotech installed, I havent really been driving my car very hard since I had a new clutch put in , I can definately see the RPMs climbing a lot faster....

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Is it broken in yet? What kind of clutch did you put in and how do you like it? Please give us a full review. I'm torn between a new clutch/flywheel or getting water injection next. When taching out 3rd gear my car will not grab 4th right away.

Yep, im all broken in now, I definetly notice a big diffrence in the way the RPMs climb and in my acceleration. Now if you are torn between water injection and the the L/W flywheel, my opinion would really have to be to get the watermist system with a smaller pulley, wait until you really kill your clutch before making the change. In my case , my clutch was gone, or so we thought , it was actualy a bad clutch master cylinder , the money I used to buy the clutch was actually my water injection money..oh well as for now i have to give the L/W flywheel ...

Kit = AutoTech 10Lbs. Flywheel with 1.8t upgrade Clutch..If you are interested, I.M. me , I found a place where you can get these at an awsome price!!!

EDIT: I forgot to post what type of Kit..

[Modified by Velocity731, 8:19 PM 10-9-2002]

**blubayou** · 10-09-2002 09:26 PM

I've got a LW FW in my jetta, too. There's definately a noticeable difference, especially when downshifting. Matching RPMS is much faster also, due to the quicker revving. I have had it in for about 3 months now and have no issues with it at all

**inovillo** · 10-10-2002 08:02 AM

Julian, I'm still waiting for a run... I wanna see the flywheel in action...

**97 Golf SC** · 10-10-2002 11:02 AM

question about fueling.

OK, I haven't installed my charger yet, so I am still a little new to all this. But I think I am going to be doing the cam before i even install the charger. So I was in between the TT 260/256, and the 268/260. I heard from a couple of guys that the 268/260 gave them some good results in power, and adding about 500 RPM to their power band. So I think I am going to go with the 268/260 cam.

My question is, should the stock neuspeed chip and the 4 bar regulator be able to handle this cam? I didn't even think about that problem until someone reminded me of it. So what do you guys think?

**inovillo** · 10-10-2002 03:03 PM

You shouldn't have a problem, anyhow, I think that they can burn a custom chip for you but they may charge you for it...

**2kjettaguy** · 10-10-2002 03:16 PM

Do any of you guys have any interest in aquamist .7mm, .8mm, and .9mm nozzles?

Those are the sizes that came in my kit, and I need a .4 or .5 to set mine up. I am out of $$ though so It won't be put on for a while

**Lotust** · 10-10-2002 05:35 PM

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There has to be something else wrong. Are you using stock injectors? Is your air filter clogged? Do you have a vacuum leak somewhere? Could be a bad MAF or O2 sensor.
The 4 bar with the Neuspeed chip should not cause that code.

what about a bad CAt?

[Modified by Lotust, 5:38 PM 10-10-2002]

**blubayou** · 10-10-2002 06:16 PM

I installed the TT 268/260 cam at the same time as I installed the SC. I've got nothing but good thigs to say about it. I have the regular SC chip, too. The cam helps add to the upper end, where the SC is somewhat lacking (relative to the low-mid range). I think it balances the powerband out well. And if you are concerned about it being too big, don't. I get no blow by (lower boost levels because of exhaust valve opening too much/overlapping with intake opening). On the stock pulley (2.8 not high-alt) I can reach 7.5psi on a 75+ degree day. I have had my setup since april, I think and have had no issues at all, except for tire wear

Get it, you will be happy to have it all at once. Now I have to dig up the $$ for the 2.6" pulley (or try to find a VW crank pulley that will fir in place of the ABA one, but have a slightly larger diameter) to up the boost a bit more

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question about fueling.
OK, I haven't installed my charger yet, so I am still a little new to all this. But I think I am going to be doing the cam before i even install the charger. So I was in between the TT 260/256, and the 268/260. I heard from a couple of guys that the 268/260 gave them some good results in power, and adding about 500 RPM to their power band. So I think I am going to go with the 268/260 cam.
My question is, should the stock neuspeed chip and the 4 bar regulator be able to handle this cam? I didn't even think about that problem until someone reminded me of it. So what do you guys think?

**JettaRed** · 10-10-2002 06:41 PM

Well, guys, I lasted almost three weeks selling cars. I've never worked harder for so little return in my life! Someone warned me it would be grueling and it was. I'm glad to be through with it!

Now, maybe, I can get back to what's happening on this thread.

**kingsfan01** · 10-10-2002 10:00 PM

Wow Bill... done already???

What happened... just wasn't working out?

What are you going to go on too now?

Tyler

**97 Golf SC** · 10-10-2002 10:17 PM

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I installed the TT 268/260 cam at the same time as I installed the SC. I've got nothing but good thigs to say about it. I have the regular SC chip, too. The cam helps add to the upper end, where the SC is somewhat lacking (relative to the low-mid range). I think it balances the powerband out well. And if you are concerned about it being too big, don't. I get no blow by (lower boost levels because of exhaust valve opening too much/overlapping with intake opening). On the stock pulley (2.8 not high-alt) I can reach 7.5psi on a 75+ degree day. I have had my setup since april, I think and have had no issues at all, except for tire wear
Get it, you will be happy to have it all at once. Now I have to dig up the $$ for the 2.6" pulley (or try to find a VW crank pulley that will fir in place of the ABA one, but have a slightly larger diameter) to up the boost a bit more

Thanks for the info. One thing. I have the OBD II computer so I am just wondering about a code being thrown. What is your idle like with the cam? does it have a big lump, or just a subtle one that you can notice. I have a TT 266 so I think it might idle something like this. Thanks for the help.

**blubayou** · 10-10-2002 10:57 PM

it should be similar to your 266, I haven't had anything less than a 268 cam in my car in over 4 years, so it seems like a normal idle to me

I had a regular 268 before the SC and asym cam went in. I can't say i have thrown any codes, but thati sjust because i haven't gotten the VAG yet.

BTW, does anyone know the wiring for the diagnostics system well? I need to get some of it (wiring) to install the OBDII plug but need to know exactly what I need.

**jcha** · 10-11-2002 09:28 AM

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Well, guys, I lasted almost three weeks selling cars. I've never worked harder for so little return in my life! Someone warned me it would be grueling and it was. I'm glad to be through with it!

wait a sec, are you saying you quit, or is that stage of your training complete?
Well, if it's done with, then at least you got to drive some cool cars. What's next?

**JettaRed** · 10-11-2002 09:50 AM

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wait a sec, are you saying you quit, or is that stage of your training complete?
Well, if it's done with, then at least you got to drive some cool cars. What's next?

Yes, guys, I quit. Either I was plagued with especially bad luck, or the car business is not one in which I can preserve my honor when dealing with people. I just had too many deals go sour for the wrong reasons.

**2kjettaguy** · 10-11-2002 10:07 AM

damn, that sucks. What are you trying to do now?

**JettaRed** · 10-11-2002 10:44 AM

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damn, that sucks. What are you trying to do now?

he, he. Find work!

I'll probably go back into the enterprise consulting business where I try to improve end-user performance through training, technology, and process improvement.

**jcha** · 10-11-2002 11:15 AM

By the way guys, a heads-up on using water injection: I was doing a little clean-up and maintenance recently, and noticed that the manifold pressure line going to the fuel pressure regulator was a bit gunked up. The blue coloring used in the windshield washer fluid found its way all the way to the fpr. I cleaned it out, and all is well, but it would be a good thing to keep an eye on. Really the best stuff to use would be a mix of distilled water and methanol, without coloring. It's just a matter of finding a good source for the methanol.

**2kjettaguy** · 10-13-2002 12:55 AM

Well, tonight i went out to the skateboard shop and on the way I revved it out a bit. I am so sick and tired of the way the car drives with the 2.6" pulley and no intercooling whatsoever. It hits 5 psi so quick, which is a good thing! But, my powerband seems to be from 3k-4.5 and that's it. If i powershift when i shift I am already past my powerband! The car drives like total junk above 4.5k. Its not worth ever revving it any higher. I have reset the ecu a few times to get my timing back, and it drives great then goes back to normal timing retard.

So, I switched back to my stock pulley tonight. Its a little weaker throttle response, but from 4k-6.5k it pulls really hard. If i could draw you a dyno graph i would say it accelerates all the way up. Before the powerband was jerky, and about 50 horsepower past 4k.

Now the car drives so nice! Full, increasing powerband. I have decided that I don't like the pulley upgrades without water injection, or an intercooler. I can't install my h20 right now since I am pretty broke. When I get some $$ I want a cam

**blubayou** · 10-13-2002 12:44 PM

you will definately enjoy the cam, helps a lot with the high end power. The cam and 2.6 pulley may balance out your powerband more. I have the 268/260 but with the stock pulley. Powerband is very even bottom to top

**2kjettaguy** · 10-13-2002 05:16 PM

I want the 268/260 but I am concerned that it will make the mk4 ecu go insane. I don't really like looking at a CEL all the time .

Any thoughts?

**blubayou** · 10-13-2002 08:13 PM

I don't get any CEL's but that could be because my engine is swapped and wiring is different. I would do the 260/256 then. Engough to give some umph, but not really aggro

**2kjettaguy** · 10-13-2002 08:49 PM

Well, i want the power from the cam, and a friend has 2 of the 268/260's that I could get my hands on. The check engine light thing isn't based on having more power, but someone said something about how the mk4 has an idle sensor of some crap, and it will throw a "lumpy idle" code. Of course I feel like i shouldn't believe that, but knowing vw and the mk4s i can believe it would throw a code as a dumb as that!

Maybe I should just try it and find out

Is there something else i will need to replace? Some say yes, some say no...

**TooLFan46n2** · 10-13-2002 11:21 PM

I'd say my 2.6 pulley runs great. With the drop in temps the car screams into redline (although I do have a cam also). Maybe you need a different belt with your 2.6, as I have no power drop off. I'm still getting a missfire around 3k though.

If you have Neuspeed reflash your chip, you shouldn't have a lumpy idle at all.
Have a dyno run setup for this friday at New German Performance, my car isn't running 100%, hopefully I can get the bugs worked out. I believe its a plug related issue.

[Modified by TooLFan46n2, 11:35 PM 10-13-2002]

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