Official 337/20AE/GLI Dyno Sheet Thread

[337tizzle]

all post looking good i did only 155hp/168 torgue with cai and forged dirverter value cannt wait to get some mod's on soon

[hitman 1.8T]

[Desiboi]

^^^----- I know you have a BT.. but why on earth is the TQ so low?

[NS_PHATGLI]

Prob cuz the turbo is of a dump truck!!!

[04blkGLI]

-REVO stage 2
-4 bar fpr
-NGK race plugs, (1 range colder)
-Carbonio CAI
-GHL 2.5 TB unres
-SPEC Clutch and Flywheel

181 whp, 230 tq

[NS_PHATGLI]

seems kinda Low for your Mods man? what settings you runing might want to check, I ran 188whp 255ftlbs with my 05 Gli with stock exhuast with my LB setting on 9! timing 7! on the 3 bar porgram!

[ricecopvwdave]

/me thinks your timing/boost settings were not reset after you went to 4bar. Thats what happened to mine.

[Dr. Hank McCoy]

New one INCOMING!!!!

197.7whp/225.4wtq

Pertinent mods
- APR 93 oct.
- GHL snorkel'd airbox w/ K&N panel
- 2.5" APR/Milltek TB
- N75H

- Bum front driver-side wheel bearing (hence the tq erraticness)

[04blkGLI]

i dunno, it might hav just been texas weather, i dont hav a SPS3 but i went straight to 4 bar without getting 3 bar first soo i dunno. the guy who flashed it had it hooked up 2 vag com and everything while i was test driving it 2 make sure everything was workin rite... At the same dyno day a 20th with apr stage 3 on 104 oct program only pulled 286whp/264 tq and a revo chipped MKV GTI pulled 213WHP/261WTQ... may have just been a low reading dyno

[Frank aka Rick]

Quote, originally posted by wolfs1eightns »

seems kinda Low for your Mods man? what settings you runing might want to check, I ran 188whp 255ftlbs with my 05 Gli with stock exhuast with my LB setting on 9! timing 7! on the 3 bar porgram!

I would change your settings around...timming 7 is way too high for 93 octane. I would try to up the boost a bit, and lower the timming down to no more than 3 or 4 depending on weather or if you have an upgraded ic.

[ricecopvwdave]

I do not have my sheet off hand, but I figure I'll post about it anyways.

Revo Stage 2
GHL CAI
GHL 2.5" Downpipe w/cat
UR Pulleys
VenAir TIP
Custom FMIC

203whp 248lb-ft

The dyno owner/operator said the dyno numbers always seem to be 5-6% low than other dynos.

[Hetzen]

^ What dyno?

[Frank aka Rick]

for a florida dyno yes...for the rest of the country I would say its pretty good

[ricecopvwdave]

Dynojet at SpeedLab in miami.

[lpclassic]

176.2 WHP / 230 FT/LBS.

Revo Stage 1
Forge 007 DV
4 Bar FPR
N 75 Race
Dogbone mount with polyurethane bushings
Magnaflow Muffler

[20thAEGti1009]

sorry its a lil hard to read but that is 280.0 WHP and 260.4 WTQ

but right now the car is down while i am putting a 2L stroker kit and having the head fully built and gettn ready to run 23psi on 93 oct lookin for 330 to 350 WHP

[Dr. Hank McCoy]

Quote, originally posted by 20thAEGti1009 »

sorry its a lil hard to read but that is 280.0 WHP and 260.4 WTQ but right now the car is down while i am putting a 2L stroker kit and having the head fully built and gettn ready to run 23psi on 93 oct lookin for 330 to 350 WHP

Is this the T3 super 60 or the T3/T4?

[Jmersh]

Here's the Dyno results from today on the GTI with Stage III+ APR kit:

364.67 HP, 325.03 TQ

http://www.geocities.com/jmersh/gti

enjoy!

p. s. Not any nitrous on the car yet....

[20thAEGti1009]

that was the t3 super 60 but i am in the process of putting a 2L stroker kit on my car.. then i am going to try to tell the super 60 and get the t3/t4.. 400whp here i come

[Marshmallow Man]

I want a BT

[Jmersh]

Hot day, just did the 2 pulls. Will re-dyno later in fall when air gets cold and barimetric pressure is higher. Have APR stage III+ kit, Eurosport intake, 106 octane program, apr downpipe and 2.5" converter, APR cat, milltek 2.5" exhaust, evo motorsports FMIC and I'm running at about 20 psi max

[Dr. Hank McCoy]

Quote, originally posted by Jmersh »

Hot day, just did the 2 pulls. Will re-dyno later in fall when air gets cold and barimetric pressure is higher. Have APR stage III+ kit, Eurosport intake, 106 octane program, apr downpipe and 2.5" converter, APR cat, milltek 2.5" exhaust, evo motorsports FMIC and I'm running at about 20 psi max

You're just like all of us (Chicago peeps from our last dyno day), in that you got hosed by getting it in MPH's instead of RPM's.

If he checks in here, maybe I'll get a response, but YO!!! Hetz, I think there's a different IY w/ MORE JUICE than you!!!!

[PolskiHetzen]

106 oct?

[UT_Instigator]

trying to get clear pic of dyno.
giac 93,
forged dv,
ITG cai,
23 psi,
borla 2.5 downpipe anf exhaust

221.4 hp
247.4 tourqe

[Swampyankee]

Quote, originally posted by UT_Instigator »

trying to get clear pic of dyno. giac 93, forged dv, ITG cai, 23 psi, borla 2.5 downpipe anf exhaust 221.4 hp 247.4 tourqe

Get a clear one of the whp and not the crank power. Your numbers seem a little inflated. Did you dyno in Florida?

[Mp3Supply]

sorry to be dumb.

where are the dyno's of ATP gt28rs kit on 1.8T Jetta or 20th's. .. pref 2005 years. . with ECU code SM . . . anyone?

[Kraut1]

I find something funny in this thread . . . everyone is fooling around with adjusting the Revo or GIAC settings. Then you have some APR users. Most of the cars are 180HP stock. The one guy with UPsolute with a 2001 150HP 1.8T puts his info down and he is making almost as much as the 180HP cars with similar mods. Hmmm . . . of course he is running methanol injection system which I can't imagine that is helping or hindering much.

Anyways I have a 05 GLI that I guess I should take over to a dyno and see what it is running with UPsolute 1.3 bar on K03S, 2.5" ES TB exhaust, 3" reroute w/ ITG foam drop in, HB DV, & NB IC vent.

Modified by Kraut1 at 10:53 AM 6-29-2006


Modified by Kraut1 at 10:53 AM 6-29-2006

[PolskiHetzen]

Quote, originally posted by Kraut1 »

I find something funny in this thread . . . everyone is fooling around with adjusting the Revo or GIAC settings. Then you have some APR users. Most of the cars are 180HP stock. The one guy with UPsolute with a 2001 150HP 1.8T puts his info down and he is making almost as much as the 180HP cars with similar mods. Hmmm . . . of course he is running methanol injection system which I can't imagine that is helping or hindering much. Anyways I have a 05 GLI that I guess I should take over to a dyno and see what it is running with UPsolute 1.3 bar on K03S, 2.5" ES TB exhaust, 3" reroute w/ ITG foam drop in, HB DV, & NB IC vent. Modified by Kraut1 at 10:53 AM 6-29-2006 Modified by Kraut1 at 10:53 AM 6-29-2006

Ya meth doesn't do ANYthing

[Jmersh]

Quote, originally posted by gtfli1 »

You're just like all of us (Chicago peeps from our last dyno day), in that you got hosed by getting it in MPH's instead of RPM's. If he checks in here, maybe I'll get a response, but YO!!! Hetz, I think there's a different IY w/ MORE JUICE than you!!!!

Yeah, the guy who dynoed before me was an 800HP supra, the x axis line got left in MPH from him fuel mapping. I'm going to make sure I get RPMs in there next time. Pretty much the fall off was at just over 7k. I'd love to meet some other IY "Juiced" 20ths BTW. Also, forgot to mention Forge 007 DV in mods. Did pulls in 4th gear as it's closest to 1:1 gear ratio and I was spinning the tires on the dyno in 3rd

[CrazyCraig0516]

all these dynos are starting to piss me off... i thought GLI's ran about 180 HP stock and alot of these chpped cars arent running much better... whats up with that? am i just crazy

[Dr. Hank McCoy]

Quote, originally posted by CrazyCraig0516 »

all these dynos are starting to piss me off... i thought GLI's ran about 180 HP stock and alot of these chpped cars arent running much better... whats up with that? am i just crazy

Most if not ALL HP ratings from manufacturers and even a lot of the tuners are @ the flywheel. Hence bhp BENCH HorsePower.

So if you took your engine outta the car and gave it NO load to bear, you'd get what the manufacturer said.

NOW imagine trying to sping a bunch of gears, some axles and some rims & tires. That's called "slop" or drivetrain "slop". Slop will beat down that bhp, but what you get is what ANYONE who REALLY knows what's up cares about Wheel HorsePower whp

Because of slop you lose like 9-12%.

So take your 180 Bhp rating and lose 10% of that due to slop.

180*0.1 = 18

180-18 = 162

So be MUCH cooler and show you're EDUCATED and KNOW you're whp and wtq. Only "posers" and "wannabes" talk about bhp.

[bondw23]

Revo Stage II, 3 inch Downpipe, N75 J, TIP, CAI, 93 octane
Boost:9
Timing: 4
217.9 WHP on Mustang Dyno, 3rd gear pull

[chisai88]

I think you meant bhp = Brake HorsePower.

In any case, drivetrain loss is usually around 10-15%.

I am still stock except for an intake and have wanted to dyno my car for a while for a baseline before I start the modding...One day.

[Swampyankee]

Torwue looks a little low on the Virginia dyno. Those Mustang dynos are not all that accurate. Especially when at sea level and the wrong correction factors are used. Horsepower looks high too but who knows these days.

[marshallhunting]

Here is mine (i don't know why it says stock) the car has a forge 007 and a apr93 chip. does this look right? also what would be an approximation for a 2.5" tb with my other mods that will be next and on the dyno late next week.