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    Thread: DIY - Replacing the shifter rod on a MKIV 12v VR6

    1. 01-16-2007 01:34 PM #101
      I'm going to add the glue step to the DIY.

    2. 01-27-2007 01:38 AM #102
      my rattle is fairly annoying to the level where i want to just buy a new intake or just remove the shifter rod... but i know i would suffer in performance if i removed the rod....
      What do you guys suggest to do.. i have the new style rod with pauls bushings and it rattles like mad at 3k.

    3. 01-27-2007 11:21 AM #103
      Removing the rod will likely cause a noticeable loss of performance AND you'll need to find a good way to seal up the hole in the driver's side of the manifold where the rod pokes through.
      The best option would be to get a new manifold and use Paul's bushings from start. That would be expensive though. A new manifold costs US$400+ AFAIK.

    4. 01-27-2007 05:36 PM #104
      Quote, originally posted by VgRt6 »
      Removing the rod will likely cause a noticeable loss of performance AND you'll need to find a good way to seal up the hole in the driver's side of the manifold where the rod pokes through.
      The best option would be to get a new manifold and use Paul's bushings from start. That would be expensive though. A new manifold costs US$400+ AFAIK.

      Funny thing as per my other thread related to oil... after filling up the oil the chatter is gone so i think it was for sure cam chatter and being low on oil... the rattle is 70% less it was cam chatter for sure at 3ish k.
      I wonder if other users having oil related cam chatter or was i the only one.
      p.s i will take the mani out in the summer and see what i find and maybe do the glue trick and tape trick n such
      thanx

    5. 01-27-2007 06:12 PM #105
      What glue and tape trick

    6. 02-28-2007 11:56 PM #106
      any way of knowing if you have the old style shifter rod or new style shifter rod without taking everything apart? did it change at any certain manufacturing date?

    7. 03-01-2007 08:31 AM #107
      I'm not sure of the change-over date, but your '01 should have the newer-style (653) rod.

    8. 06-18-2007 08:23 PM #108
      Bump to put in watched topics, I need to do this soon.

    9. 06-22-2007 04:48 AM #109
      Quote, originally posted by shapiror »
      any way of knowing if you have the old style shifter rod or new style shifter rod without taking everything apart? did it change at any certain manufacturing date?

      I did mine with the upgraded bushings, and I had the same exact question. Finally said hell with it and bought the RIGHT rod before I took everything apart, just in case. When I got it apart, my rod had the 2 white bushings, not the thin black ones (right rod, in other words), but it was so caked in crap I decided to say screw the $70 (or whatever it was) and used the new one. I still have my old one and the new white clip-together bushings (OEM, not upgraded ones). If you need to pick one up, let me know - I'll clean it up and sell it to you for way less than the stealership.
      ETA: my jetta is an 01, so find out the production date (better yet the engine number and vehicle production date) and PM it to me and I'll check mine - if yours is later than mine, I can almost guarantee you have the right one.

      Modified by dingo_boy99 at 1:50 AM 6-22-2007


      Modified by dingo_boy99 at 1:52 AM 6-22-2007

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      07-12-2007 04:00 PM #110
      I think I may have a problem, hopefully not, but when i went to look at my intake shifter rod to see which one i had, there was no shifter rod in the manifold. It was empty.s this bad. Should i buy a shifter rod and put it in there. I am also missing that white part that connects to the actuator rod. help. TIA

      Quote, originally posted by VgRt6 »
      REPLACING THE SHIFTER ROD ON A MKIV 12V VR6
      11. The picture below shows a better view of the vacuum drive unit (which also serves as the driver's side end cap) and how it operates the shifter rod. When a vacuum is applied to the drive unit (controlled by the ECU and a solenoid valve), the actuator rod (yellow arrow) moves downward, causing the end of the white connecting lever (red arrow) to also move downward and resulting in the clockwise rotation of the shifter rod 90° (there is a tab on the driver's side end of the shifter rod and a corresponding groove in the drive unit that limits the rotation of the shifter rod).



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    11. 07-14-2007 09:18 PM #111
      What year car do you have?

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      07-14-2007 11:13 PM #112
      i have a 01..i think when i had my motor rebuilt the shop maybe forgot to put the rod back in..

    13. 07-15-2007 10:08 AM #113
      An '01 should definitely have a rod. If there is none in your car, is there a big hole in the side of the intake manifold where the rod usually pokes through? If there is, that's bad.


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      07-15-2007 06:53 PM #114
      what do u mean a hole on the side of the manifold. the caps are there. like the ones u have to take off on the drivers side and the passenger side to get the rod out. sorry for being clueless.

    15. 07-15-2007 08:26 PM #115
      The passenger's side "cap" is solid, but the driver's side "cap" has a hole in it for the rod to poke through so that it can connect to the white lever of the drive unit. If there is no shifter rod in the manifold, then there will be an open hole in the "cap" and unmetered air will enter the engine (not good).

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      07-15-2007 11:48 PM #116
      oh i see..how bad is it though..what should i do?

    17. 07-16-2007 12:10 AM #117
      You should put a rod in there. At the very least, you shouldn't have any open holes in the intake. It will cause a VERY lean condition which could cause poor gas mileage and possible engine damage if driven hard.

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      07-16-2007 11:01 AM #118
      oh yeah..i am deff. gonna put a rod in there now..yeah my car has been running pretty lean and does get bad gas mileage..i think my car is misfiring now too..but i dont know if the shifter rod will cause that?

    19. 07-16-2007 03:33 PM #119
      It could. Put a rod in there ASAP.

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      07-16-2007 03:38 PM #120
      i took some pics of what my manifold looks like..like the area where the shifter rod would go


      as you can see above. the white clip that is supposed to be here is missing and the hole is just covered by a nut. maybe that is the hole you are telling me about.


      thats how the driver's side end of the cap looks like, where the nut is screwed in to cover up the hole you may have been talking about.

    21. 07-16-2007 06:31 PM #121
      I've done that bolt trick when testing out the performance of the engine without a shifter rod. You may still be getting an air leak with only that bolt there and definitely would have decreased performance without the rod.

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      07-16-2007 07:05 PM #122
      oh yeah. then I guess I will go buy a shifter rod now. but my problem is I don't have the white clip that connects to the vacuum thing and the red bushing inside the cap? thanks for all the help

    23. 07-16-2007 08:04 PM #123
      Maybe your manifold is to worn(plastic)thats why there is no rod.Mine is. But mine is still in and it rattles like a sob atleast make sure it is sealed tight.

    24. 08-17-2007 12:59 AM #124
      Quote, originally posted by g0t rice »
      i took some pics of what my manifold looks like..like the area where the shifter rod would go
      as you can see above. the white clip that is supposed to be here is missing and the hole is just covered by a nut. maybe that is the hole you are telling me about.
      thats how the driver's side end of the cap looks like, where the nut is screwed in to cover up the hole you may have been talking about.

      Looks like whoever had the car before you decided to "delete" the rod before sale so you wouldnt complain about rattle noise.
      As i am in the process of selling my vr6 a gentlemen came and picked up on the noise and i showed him and explained to him the infamous shifter rod flaw... even though i have pauls bushings n such.
      I would probably reseal it ... you can try putting a rod in but chances are it rattles like a mother.
      I think if you seal up the holed properly you are good otherwise debris will go into engine.

    25. 09-04-2007 01:22 PM #125
      Sooo... I would think it would be safe to assume by my car being a 99.5, I would have the old style rod... crap. Where's a cheap place to pick up the new style with bushings online? Thanks.

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