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    Thread: ABF Timing Belt Post - I have some info you people may enjoy

    1. 05-14-2005 02:14 PM #1
      So like the rest of the world, I'm building an ABF with a combo of a PL and ABA. As always the infamous question pops up, "Which timing belt do I use?!"

      Now its a known fact that TT sells a belt...for $65
      and Eurosport sells a Kent belt ...for $50

      But fact of the matter remains, an OEM belt is a whopping like $35. So my search began...and here's what I have to share thus far:

      Partnumber - Designation - teeth x width

      06B-109-119F: Audi A4 2000-2005 1.8T - 150x25mm
      06B-109-119A: VW MK4 2000-2005 + NB 1.8T - 150x25mm
      058-109-119C: Audi A4 2000-2005 1.8T "Old-Style" - 153x25mm
      028-109-119P: VW TDi 1.9L - 137x25mm
      048-109-119G: VW ABF - 151x25mm

      And now the rolls royce of what could possibly be the belt of choice!

      054-109-119H: Audi UrS4 1992-1994 AAN Motor - 151x25mm - $35 germanautoparts.com

      I'm still confirming this - but if its true then screw that kent belt.

      Furthermore, there is rumor that possibly a Honda belt can be used. I checked the belt for a 22H, and an B18...neither work, I still need to check out a B16 belt, and supposidly, Dayco/Gates supplies 151x25mm belts.

      We shall see...

      A Few Randoms:

      Dodge Colt 1.6L- 151x29mm


      Modified by Pagano at 2:21 PM 5-14-2005


    2. 05-14-2005 07:07 PM #2
      Quote, originally posted by Pagano »
      054-109-119H: Audi UrS4 1992-1994 AAN Motor - 151x25mm - $35 germanautoparts.com

      FWIW, Belt 054 109 119 H $27.40 Cdn from http://www.altrom.com


    3. 05-14-2005 07:45 PM #3
      holy hell thats like $19 USD...

      I want to confirm this so badly...I may have to wait until monday


    4. 05-14-2005 07:50 PM #4
      BTW, where'd you get your timing belt info? I'm looking to do a little timing belt research for one of my projects too.

    5. 05-14-2005 09:23 PM #5
      Local VW Supplier/Dealership/Google

    6. 05-15-2005 10:44 AM #6
      i'm using a 152 tooth timing belt for a 1.8T. it works perfectly. it's just a little tight getting it on!!!

      give'r


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      05-15-2005 01:29 PM #7
      You cheapass... spend the $50 and get a Kent belt.

      I'd hate if you buy some cheapo mismatched belt and the F-er snaps or teeth get ripped off... belts cheap insurance man!!

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    8. 05-17-2005 09:00 PM #8
      Quote, originally posted by PowerDubs »
      You cheapass... spend the $50 and get a Kent belt.

      I'd hate if you buy some cheapo mismatched belt and the F-er snaps or teeth get ripped off... belts cheap insurance man!!

      eat me

      what's the big deal??? it fits perfectly... same amount of tension as a new 1.8T timing belt when that goes on. should i not be using spark plugs from a 5 cyl. S4 because they weren't "intended" for my ABF G60???

      besides i think i paid enough for the continental belt!!!


    9. 06-06-2005 09:31 PM #9
      Hey P did you get anymore info on this?

    10. 06-13-2005 03:33 AM #10
      I heard from another vortexer you can use the belt off of a 2.2 prelude(153x25mm)and at $22 a pop not that bad

    11. 03-01-2007 11:41 PM #11
      just got the 054 109 119 H for my abf, fits fine except that it's .5" too narrow looks like an 8v belt

    12. 03-06-2007 07:23 PM #12
      tried a belt for a 99 passat 1.8t, 152 tooth, a tad too loose

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      03-06-2007 08:28 PM #13
      call me 054 109 119h $12 503 659 7444 I have 5 right now and can get more

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      03-06-2007 08:32 PM #14
      I also have that honda belt tb187 for $20.00

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      03-07-2007 12:17 PM #15
      just making 100% sure. This will work with my 16vaba correct?
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    16. 03-13-2007 09:07 PM #16
      those dont work, i learned the hard way

      get the correct one from rhussjr, 35 shipped and it works fine


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      03-29-2007 03:49 PM #17
      I dont like playing the guessing game.

      http://www.bahnbrenner.com/vw_....html


    18. 11-16-2010 06:05 AM #18
      do you guys know if the 054-109-119H teeth are squared or rounded?

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      11-18-2010 10:33 PM #19
      I have the Kent Belt and it's def worth the $.

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      11-19-2010 07:12 AM #20
      Why can't you just use the proper belt for the ABF? Am I missing something obvious?

      Contitech number is CT872 - surely any decent parts shop should be able to look that up and cross-reference it?
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      11-19-2010 07:23 PM #21
      The CT872 isn't marketed in NA because the ABF was never used in NA, so there will be no cross reference to the belt as it is only listed as the ABF by Conti. RHussJr here on the Vortex use to sell them for $25, but I am not sure if he still sells them.

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      11-19-2010 11:03 PM #22
      Quote Originally Posted by MikkiJayne View Post
      Why can't you just use the proper belt for the ABF? Am I missing something obvious?

      Contitech number is CT872 - surely any decent parts shop should be able to look that up and cross-reference it?
      ..cause as usual, we get screwed in the US and didn't get the ABF nor the belt

      Mikki, maybe you need to start a full import business


      Also, FYI: Honda and Isuzu belts are Curvilinear III and not Curvilinear II like VW belts. They "will work" but are not proper.

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      11-20-2010 02:14 PM #23
      If you can get 'em for $25 then thats not too bad. They're ~£18 here, so that'd work out at at about $30 plus shipping. Probably not worth it.
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      04-04-2011 07:43 PM #24
      Quote Originally Posted by Pagano View Post
      054-109-119H: Audi UrS4 1992-1994 AAN Motor - 151x25mm - $35 germanautoparts.com
      This is a 19mm wide belt, though the pic on their site may seem otherwise. It does have 151 teeth though. I talked to GAP and they couldn't confirm the width, but I took a chance anyway.

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      04-05-2011 03:25 AM #25
      AAN belt is too narrow as mentioned above.Use the 06A belt.
      with the right amount of tension you can get it to work.
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    26. 04-07-2011 05:48 PM #26
      FYI the reason 16v TB are odd number of teeth is so they ride in a different groove as they rotate this helps them to not wear on the same teeth as the go around. so even number TB are a no no


      i have 2 correct ABF belts i had shipped from england as extras one is a gates and other is a continental

      $30 each plus paypal and shipping if anyone wants them that isnt some cheap knockoff

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      04-08-2011 02:57 AM #27
      Quote Originally Posted by Benbuilt4u View Post
      FYI the reason 16v TB are odd number of teeth is so they ride in a different groove as they rotate this helps them to not wear on the same teeth as the go around. so even number TB are a no no
      This is incorrect.
      Once you maintain a 1:2 relationship between the crankshaft and camshaft it does not matter how many teeth or HOW long your belt is. When I built my ABA 20V hybrids we used all kinds of belts and tensioners and found the most cost effective solution.
      AEB motors also follow the same format as 16V 9A motors and they come in 2 different belt teeth count. - 152 & 153.
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      12-06-2011 09:20 PM #28
      054-109-119H is not the right one, its 151x19mm, here is the picture:


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      03-12-2012 11:23 AM #29
      Posted here for posterity;

      Rock auto has some QTB444 & 5399XS on their site
      The QTB444 ships out from the UK...

      here are all the manufacturers equivalents for the ABF 151 teeth belts
      http://www.oscaro.com/courroie-de-di...s-695360-306-p

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      03-14-2012 09:29 AM #30
      ABF belts are avail stateside. see my sig
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      03-14-2012 10:54 PM #31
      Aeb has 2 options dayco part number: 95291 153x25 and part number: 95317 152x25

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      03-15-2012 06:58 AM #32
      ^^ This post has nothing to do in here:
      it will just confuse people: AEB is a 1.8T
      This is about ABF:
      ABA block + 16V head. Needs a 151 teeth belt

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