alright, now that i'm home, had a , and could focus lets clear some things up.
what i was trying to say:
"seat of the pants" in this case would be a horrible way to relate a persons experience with and without the spindles.
just as a reference point, up until that huge discussion in the FAQ, "seat of the pants" told everyone that a lowered dub with stiffer springs handles better than the otherwise stocker.
even tho the modern vortex educated dubber may now take into account said facts when trying to emote his impressions into words, doing so, realsticly, would be half assed at best
thats like cooking one hambruger for 10 minuets and one for 12. The 12 minuet hamburger tastes better for whatever reason, but what YOUR trying to ask is essentialy how much better that hamburger tastes. Which, would be quite hard to express on the spot, but if given enough time and a rating scale could be devised, one might provide a more or less consistent and valid comparison.
which brings me back to what i said earlier.
that to truly compare a spindled vs non spindled car, you would have to have a pretty consistent driver go on the track and push a stock car to its limit, having various recording gear to record the time, and if possible wheel travel and camber change during cornering.
followed by an identical procedure and track conditions in a spindled car.
as the spindles do little in terms of ride comfort, especialy in a strait line, and really only start to show their true effectiveness by creating more negative camber than the otherwise stock unit at any given level of compression ( as shown by pyce's audi TT vs stock spindle animation)
also given tire choice, to say whether or not your car actualy handles better, in the sense of ultimate speed that the car is able to corner, would in fact require you to reach that maximum cornering speed limit.
which, as much as I myself would like to boast, is very rarely achieved on the street in any sort of consecutive fashion.
i think that sums up what i was trying to say
NOW you can flame me.
Modified by 7thGear at 4:08 PM 5-19-2005