VWVortex.com - Which car salesman make more money?
Username or Email Address
Do you already have an account?
Forgot your password?
  • Log in or Sign up

    VWVortex


    The Car Lounge
    Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
    Results 1 to 25 of 73

    Thread: Which car salesman make more money?

    Hybrid View

    1. Banned hawc's Avatar
      Join Date
      Oct 24th, 2001
      Posts
      14,184
      06-25-2005 06:03 PM #1
      The ones selling lots of cheaper cars (hyundais, hondas, kias etc) or ones selling more premium brands BMW, Mercedes etc?
      Is there higher margin on cheaper cars and they're easier to sell, or is it better to be the guy selling say five Lamborghinis a year?

    2. Member Merc-MarkO's Avatar
      Join Date
      Nov 21st, 2001
      Location
      Great State of Oregon
      Posts
      19,201
      Vehicles
      a '98 [on life support] and a '07
      06-25-2005 06:15 PM #2
      Need an option for Gateway's salesman.
      Where is Kyron ??? http://www.bringkyronhome.org/
      Support our troops, bless the fallen.

      Quote Originally Posted by genjy View Post
      Yes, there is a high chance that the tractor trailer was the one going 160MPH, not the Porsche GT2 RS.

    3. Banned hawc's Avatar
      Join Date
      Oct 24th, 2001
      Posts
      14,184
      06-25-2005 06:17 PM #3
      heheh

    4. Member
      Join Date
      Oct 9th, 2000
      Location
      FL
      Posts
      16,384
      Vehicles
      01 GMC Sonoma
      06-26-2005 03:15 PM #4
      Quote, originally posted by Merc-MarkO »
      Need an option for Gateway's salesman.


      Now that's funny!!

    5. Member impact's Avatar
      Join Date
      Feb 6th, 2002
      Posts
      5,198
      Vehicles
      2006 Škoda Octavia
      06-26-2005 03:26 PM #5
      Quote, originally posted by shftat6 »
      Now that's funny!!

      It's actually kinda sad.

    6. Geriatric Member Turbio!'s Avatar
      Join Date
      Feb 21st, 2005
      Location
      Colorado Springs, CO
      Posts
      42,839
      Vehicles
      '13 Subaru Outback
      06-26-2005 07:44 PM #6
      Quote, originally posted by Merc-MarkO »
      Need an option for Gateway's salesman.

      x10
      IPRO Meat-Director and High Minister of Terror-Grilling

      Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Man View Post
      The Terror Grill: Part restaurant, part amusement attraction, part gladiator arena, all profit.
      ARE YOU NOT SATIATED?!?!?!

    7. Member Quattro80's Avatar
      Join Date
      Apr 6th, 1999
      Location
      Toronto, ON
      Posts
      2,769
      Vehicles
      1992 Mercedes-Benz 300E
      06-25-2005 06:19 PM #7
      I think expensive cars. My logic behind it is the fact that as far as resources go, technically the same "amount" of metal, glass etc, is put into cheap cars and expensive cars. The difference lies in the quality of materials, and effort into engineering. So, although a luxury car would cost more in the end as far as overall resources are concerned, the price they end up selling for (in excess of $100,000) means profit is much higher, IMO.
      Economy cars don't have a lot of margin, at all, IMO.
      Now, in economy cars there are margins as well. I went with my friend's father car shopping and ended up knocking off $2,500 within 10 minutes of negotiating on a brand spaking new Toyota Corolla - wasn't on the lot, it was going to be special ordered. Now, we also went to look at the Mazda 3 later on that afternoon, and the salesman barely went down $500. Now, granted at the time the 3 was a hot car (IMO still is), but the salesman said something that was interesting. When I mentioned to him that Toyota was flexable on their price, he said that the Corolla is built in Cambridge (which I knew), so it doesn't cost a lot to ship it to the dealer in Toronto. Now the 3 on the other hand is built in Japan, so it technically costs more to ship it to Toronto. SO, although both cars technically cost the same, in the end the margin of profit would be greater for a Corolla than a 3.

    8. 06-25-2005 06:39 PM #8
      id say the expensive ones. there is no WAY an aston martin salesman doesnt make like 3 times the amount (at least) a honda salesman does.

    9. Member VeeDub Bowtie's Avatar
      Join Date
      Jul 10th, 2003
      Location
      Way Up north Minnesota
      Posts
      426
      Vehicles
      2005 Jetta Variant GLS
      06-25-2005 06:50 PM #9
      I think You sould adjust this poll to new vs. used sales.
      When I sell a new Suburban I make about $225. If the same truck was 2 years old and sold for half the price and I would get around $1,000.
      Used cars guys make much more than new car sales...

    10. Member G_RockNYTN's Avatar
      Join Date
      Nov 5th, 2006
      Location
      Indianapolis
      Posts
      620
      Vehicles
      2015 BMW M3
      10-11-2012 01:16 PM #10
      Quote Originally Posted by VeeDub Bowtie View Post
      I think You sould adjust this poll to new vs. used sales.
      When I sell a new Suburban I make about $225. If the same truck was 2 years old and sold for half the price and I would get around $1,000.
      Used cars guys make much more than new car sales...
      Yep, I was going to chime in with used cars over either. The used car salesman at the BMW dealership where I used to work made more money than anyone else.

    11. 06-25-2005 06:50 PM #11
      If there's enough interest, I could post an article on how car salespeople are paid.

    12. 06-25-2005 07:10 PM #12
      Quote, originally posted by Four Speed Fox »
      If there's enough interest, I could post an article on how car salespeople are paid.

      do it. I double dare you

    13. 06-25-2005 07:11 PM #13
      Quote, originally posted by Four Speed Fox »
      If there's enough interest, I could post an article on how car salespeople are paid.

      Please do! If more people knew how I was paid in my 100% commission sales job, my own job would be a lot easier...
      call it potatography

    14. Member Mike!'s Avatar
      Join Date
      Jun 17th, 2002
      Location
      Ontario & Ohio
      Posts
      16,161
      Vehicles
      2015 Fusion Wagon Allroad Turbo
      06-25-2005 07:03 PM #14
      The dealership may make more money with the expensive cars. The manufacturer may as well. But it's not likely the salesperson will make appreciably more.
      Particularly if economic times are tough in your area, and you're selling BMWs, Audis, whatever, you'd be lucky to still pull two grand a month.
      Ever noticed that Ferrari salespeople don't own their own Ferraris?
      Mike

    15. Member SMG's Avatar
      Join Date
      May 28th, 2002
      Location
      Washington, DC
      Posts
      7,244
      Vehicles
      '15 Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon
      06-25-2005 07:12 PM #15
      Quote, originally posted by MikeNoGo »
      Ever noticed that Ferrari salespeople don't own their own Ferraris?

      Have you ever seen some of the cars "regular" salespeople drive? Some of their cars look like they haven't been on a new car lot in 20 years. Just because the Ferrari salesman can't afford a Ferrari doesn't mean he isn't making appreciably more than the Honda salesman.

    16. Member lowredcabrio's Avatar
      Join Date
      Oct 21st, 2004
      Location
      Saskatchewan
      Posts
      6,066
      Vehicles
      1990 Miata
      06-25-2005 07:32 PM #16
      I never really thought about that.
      and I really didnt know that salesmen made more selling used cars!
      3 + 3 + 3 = NEIN!

    17. 06-25-2005 08:22 PM #17
      I used to be in that business. The cheaper car salesperson would make more money. Granted the profits are more on the luxury cars, but how many of those do you sell in a month? Salesperson's commission's are generally 25-35% of the gross profit of the sale. That means minus the lot fee the dealer charges, usually $150-250.
      Average profit these days on a new car (domestic) is approx. $200-1000 with the internet and all. However, average profit on a used car is approx. $1550-3000. Thats why many dealerships have the best salespeople hawking used cars. You just can't order a used car from the used car factory.
      Edited for addition: The real money makers are the Finance Mgrs. At large dealerships I know some that make over $200,000/yr


      Modified by roadrunner469 at 5:24 PM 6-25-2005

    18. 06-25-2005 08:25 PM #18
      Ahh, the classic question of quality and patience... or quantity and totally working your arse off for like, a dollar an hour.

    19. Senior Member JettaGT8V80's Avatar
      Join Date
      Jun 11th, 2003
      Location
      Waltham , Ma
      Posts
      27,544
      Vehicles
      06 GTI UM Tuned, 2016 GTI PP
      06-25-2005 09:02 PM #19
      cheap casue you can sell like 5 a day
      but you might only sell like 1 porsche every few days so there fore do the math

    20. 06-25-2005 09:16 PM #20
      Expensive cars make more. There are less salespeople in a high-end dealership than the cheaer brand car dealers. When you think about it, there are more people who can afford cheaper cars than those that can afford upscale ones. From my numerous visits to dealerships, lower-end brands tend to have somewhere around 12-25 salespeople depending on the size and location of the dealership. Generally in an upscale dealer, I see at most, 12.
      When I ask my friends who sale cars for a living, my friends at BMW dealerships make $80k a year easy, while my friend at VW tells me he tops out around $80-90k a year. The top salesperson at the BMW dealer that I go to makes somewhere around $200k a year and pushes around 18-35 cars a month.

    21. 06-25-2005 09:25 PM #21
      Quote, originally posted by PDing »
      When I ask my friends who sale cars for a living, my friends at BMW dealerships make $80k a year easy, while my friend at VW tells me he tops out around $80-90k a year. The top salesperson at the BMW dealer that I go to makes somewhere around $200k a year and pushes around 18-35 cars a month.

      Ask to see those pay stubs.
      It's rare for a car salesman to make more than $40K/year. Some markets pay a little better because rent/expenses are high (e.g. San Francisco) but make no mistake, there is not a dealer in the country who will pay somebody that kind of money unless they have extremely significant community connections.
      Keep in mind that lying about one's income is virtually mandatory in the business. I remember my GM telling me, in the most sanctimonious voice possible, "I don't get out of bed for low six figures." Later that year I saw his W-2 as they were prepping it in the office; he had earned $71,000 the year before.
      I'll do a writeup this week about some of the more common dealer myths and realities and post it.
      The most important thing to understand about modern auto dealers is that the majority of them lose money selling cars and break even servicing them. The profit engine is the parts department, because there is an insane little deal going on between the dealers and manufacturers.
      Manufacturers sell dealers parts at a certain cost. Then they repurchase those parts at near retail to be used in warranty service. The more warranty churn you do, the better.

    22. 06-25-2005 09:37 PM #22
      My friend works at F.C. Kerbeck as a lot attendant. The one in Palmyra not Atlantic City. They sell Rolls-Royce, Bentley, Lamborghini, and possibly Aston Martin (not sure). There were only 5 people who could sell those cars, and two of them were Kerbecks (owners kids). The other guy was rolling in the dough, he made so much money he had a Gallardo. If it was a dealers car or not doesn't matter. Put it this way, if it was a dealers car, he had to have been making the dealership soooo much money for them to give him a Gallardo, therefore he is very well compensated also.
      Can't tell you the last time I knew of a Kia salesperson driving a Gallardo or other high end car

    23. 06-25-2005 10:13 PM #23
      Quote, originally posted by 98passat21 »
      My friend works at F.C. Kerbeck as a lot attendant. The one in Palmyra not Atlantic City. They sell Rolls-Royce, Bentley, Lamborghini... The other guy was rolling in the dough, he made so much money he had a Gallardo. If it was a dealers car or not doesn't matter. Put it this way, if it was a dealers car, he had to have been making the dealership soooo much money for them to give him a Gallardo, therefore he is very well compensated also.
      Can't tell you the last time I knew of a Kia salesperson driving a Gallardo or other high end car

      Heh.
      I can remember driving a new Q45 to work and earning $2000 a month - not enough money to pay for the car over 60 months
      There's a benefit to the dealership in having one of those cars driven around on a consistent basis. It's free advertising.

    24. Member VeeDubDriver's Avatar
      Join Date
      Oct 1st, 2001
      Location
      Boynton Beach, FL
      Posts
      10,048
      Vehicles
      '16 Mazda Miata Club / '13 Infiniti G37
      06-25-2005 10:21 PM #24
      Perhaps this will shed some light on the topic. If you work at a Toyota or Lexus store, you are probably selling more cars per month than say a Dodge store. In addition, Lexus probably sells cars with less of a discount than many makes, so I would venture to say that if you work at a Lexus store, you have the potential to do pretty well.
      "...making those extra shifts, leaning on the tires a bit more, sawing the wheel on corner exit for the sheer joy of doing so." - Jack Baruth

    25. 06-16-2016 11:12 PM #25
      My very first sales position. I just started with a family owned Chevy dealer 18 months ago.
      We have already had 3 different pay plans. We currently have the best of the 3. I can tell you
      that the average salesperson makes about 3k per month. My first year I EARNED 65k. I have been
      extremely fortunate and am on pace(as of June) to make 130k this year. I have just started to get
      a house deal or two per month! I believe that I am the highest earner out of a fluctuating 20-25
      member sales staff. We are paid spiffs and they can really add up. I have earned more than 6k in
      spiffs this year. Spiffs can change on a dime & so can the pay plan.
      My observations are: 1. Most of the average and below average sales staff will not take customers after
      certain hours. 2. Most of them will take all of their time off and more including never missing a lunch.
      3. Most of them will not follow up with their customers. 4. Most of them will only take "easy" deals.
      5. Most of them wait for customers to come in and don't like working the phones. 6. Most of them pre-judge
      customers.7. Most of them don't realize that the customers have a defense mechanism and are never " buying
      today". 8. Most of them don't build excitement in the product. 8. Most of them don't learn how to work their desk.
      9. Most of them don't deserve to make any more than they do and they really make about what they want to make.
      These are my observations & I'm sure they relate to all kinds of business situations!

    For advertising information click HERE

    Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

    Posting Permissions

    • You may not post new threads
    • You may not post replies
    • You may not post attachments
    • You may not edit your posts
    •