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    Thread: 2005 Jetta TDI Fuel Pump Failures

    1. 08-15-2005 06:22 PM #1
      My Jetta V TDI has had fuel pump failures at 400 and 600 miles. I'm getting mixed stories from the dealer on the underlying cause. It may be related to the electrical. I've searched but not found any threads on the issue. Anyone had anything similar or know of a thread I missed?

      Thanks in advance.


    2. 08-15-2005 07:59 PM #2
      one more time and u have a lemon...

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      08-15-2005 08:13 PM #3
      Sounds like an electrical issue to me. They are not the easiest things to track down and solve. If you have one or two more failures I would highly look into getting a replacement (Lemon Law).

    4. 08-15-2005 08:22 PM #4
      Thx.

      Under CT law I may have a lemon already. We have to go four fixes, unless the the failure threatens safety. In both cases the failures were without warning. The second failure left the car in a dangerous spot. It's an automatic so I could not crank it off the road on the starter. Prompt response by the local sheriff put lights on the adventure.


    5. 08-15-2005 08:42 PM #5
      Quote, originally posted by Hilltop »
      My Jetta V TDI has had fuel pump failures at 400 and 600 miles. I'm getting mixed stories from the dealer on the underlying cause. It may be related to the electrical. I've searched but not found any threads on the issue. Anyone had anything similar or know of a thread I missed?

      Thanks in advance.

      Just a thought but have you tried another dealer. Maybe your dealer is not doing everything they can such as calling VW TechLine. They can actually take control of the tester via the internet and working with the tech and others try to figure out what it is. I am just saying this because I work at a dealer in an area with alot of TDI's (mine included) and have not seen one TDI fuel pump issue yet.


    6. 08-17-2005 07:47 PM #6
      1) Ask about the failure mode, e.g., did the brushes wear out prematurely?
      2) Take a look at the Passat/B5 forum here and on passatworld.com. There was evidently a run of bad fuel pumps installed in early-production model year 2003 Passats.

    7. 08-17-2005 09:34 PM #7
      hmmm. i hope this isn't the start of another problem for the Jetta.

      we had an 05 with a bad pump a few weeks back.


    8. 08-17-2005 10:15 PM #8
      Contrary to the news reported after the first failure (400 mi), the most recent news (second failure at 600 mi) from the dealer is that the pump itself is fine. Something in the electronics caused it to shut down. After the dealer trundled it back to its shop on its flatbed, the car apparently started without hesitation.

      No failure code in the computer when they checked.

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      I'll check the thread. Thx for the lead.


    9. 08-17-2005 11:13 PM #9
      just curious, which cylinders are affected?

      (PD--unit injector...each injecto has its own pump)


    10. 08-18-2005 06:54 AM #10
      All. If there are separate pumps the fault must lie behind all of them. Fuel is clearly cut off clean. The engine stops dead. No warning. Just goes from great to gadzooks in an instant.

    11. 08-18-2005 07:57 AM #11
      Just FYI but the main fuel pump of which you are speaking is the exact same one that was being replaced on the Passat that had issues. Chances are some of the affected ones might have made it onto new Jettas. However our shop has not done any on Jettas but a few on Passats.

    12. 08-18-2005 08:04 AM #12
      some of the older MK4 TDI's had problems with the relay for the fuel pump--- could as simple as that-- or worse (the 2.0L TDI Passat thing)

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      08-18-2005 08:20 AM #13
      Quote, originally posted by needabeer »
      Just FYI but the main fuel pump of which you are speaking is the exact same one that was being replaced on the Passat that had issues. Chances are some of the affected ones might have made it onto new Jettas. However our shop has not done any on Jettas but a few on Passats.

      http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=1982739

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    14. 08-18-2005 08:39 AM #14
      Quote, originally posted by E36BMW »

      http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=1982739

      Reading the threads--- they are not talking about the TDI motor!!!!

      Apples to oranges


      Modified by GT17V at 8:40 AM 8-18-2005


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      08-18-2005 08:47 AM #15
      Quote, originally posted by GT17V »

      Reading the threads--- they are not talking about the TDI motor!!!!

      Apples to oranges


      Your not paying attention. As stated above in my post, the TDI uses the same fuel pump that is failing in the 2003 Passats.

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    16. 08-18-2005 09:14 AM #16
      but there has benn a recall on the main fuel pump on the TDIs, where a wrong fastener was used--- causing leakage=> Fire

      This is a specific recall for the 1.9L and 2.0L PD motors


      Modified by GT17V at 9:16 AM 8-18-2005


    17. 08-18-2005 07:58 PM #17
      Quote, originally posted by GT17V »
      but there has benn a recall on the main fuel pump on the TDIs, where a wrong fastener was used--- causing leakage=> Fire

      This is a specific recall for the 1.9L and 2.0L PD motors


      Modified by GT17V at 9:16 AM 8-18-2005

      Actually the recall was not on the 1.9 only the 2.0 and it had to do with a manufacturing defect not a wrong fastener


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