Username or Email Address
Do you already have an account?
Forgot your password?
  • Log in or Sign up

    VWVortex


    Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
    Results 1 to 35 of 76

    Thread: Golf TDI-R Endurance Racecar - Interesting

    1. Member Issam Abed's Avatar
      Join Date
      Feb 12th, 2004
      Location
      EVERYWHERE
      Posts
      13,367
      Vehicles
      91 Audi 80 2.0T
      09-23-2005 05:31 PM #1
      Does anyone what gearbox they are using?Is it the transporter unit?Nice to see an Inline-5 TDi in there




    2. 09-23-2005 05:44 PM #2
      Is it 4 Motion as well?

    3. Member RogueTDI's Avatar
      Join Date
      Dec 12th, 2002
      Location
      USA
      Posts
      14,643
      Vehicles
      2010 Golf TDI 4DR MT6 SB
      09-23-2005 07:18 PM #3
      Nice.

    4. Member BigFoot3's Avatar
      Join Date
      Aug 31st, 2004
      Posts
      567
      Vehicles
      2001 VW Jetta TDI 5spd
      09-23-2005 09:14 PM #4
      I-5 TDI thats awesome
      probably putting out maybe 250 whp and 400 wtq
      id love to have that engine in my car
      not sure on the gearbox but it probably has 6 gears in long ratios since its an endurance racer

    5. 09-24-2005 02:26 PM #5
      It's hard to tell, but the engine has the IP and TB on the inside. I wonder what they have in there for a transmission. I'd imagine it's very similar to the rally Golf with the I5...

      --Matt


    6. 09-24-2005 02:45 PM #6
      Quote, originally posted by mattkosem »
      It's hard to tell, but the engine has the IP and TB on the inside.
      --Matt

      The I5 (and I6) have 2 timing belts. One on the front like the 4cyl but it only drives the cam and water pump. The second belt drives the injection pump from the rear of the camshaft.

      I'm guessing the tranny is a custom sequential dogbox, similar to what the rally cars use. It would need to be quite short to allow the 5cyl to fit. The transporter transaxle tilts the motor forward rather than back, so it wouldn't really work in the golf.


    7. Member Issam Abed's Avatar
      Join Date
      Feb 12th, 2004
      Location
      EVERYWHERE
      Posts
      13,367
      Vehicles
      91 Audi 80 2.0T
      09-24-2005 05:45 PM #7
      Is the transporter gearbox signifcantly shorter?

    8. 09-24-2005 07:50 PM #8
      Quote, originally posted by Wizard-of-OD »
      Is the transporter gearbox signifcantly shorter?

      No, but the transporter is significantly wider than a golf/jetta. The transporter tranny is just and 02A/J (called an 02B in the transporter) with a different bolt pattern and an extended right hand driveshaft flange.





      Modified by QuickTD at 12:55 AM 9-25-2005


    9. Member Issam Abed's Avatar
      Join Date
      Feb 12th, 2004
      Location
      EVERYWHERE
      Posts
      13,367
      Vehicles
      91 Audi 80 2.0T
      09-26-2005 12:37 AM #9
      Quote, originally posted by QuickTD »

      No, but the transporter is significantly wider than a golf/jetta. The transporter tranny is just and 02A/J (called an 02B in the transporter) with a different bolt pattern and an extended right hand driveshaft flange.

      So more than likely VWMS is using a custom shortened gearbox in there and not a normal 02"X" gearbox.


    10. 09-26-2005 08:39 AM #10
      Quote, originally posted by Wizard-of-OD »

      So more than likely VWMS is using a custom shortened gearbox in there and not a normal 02"X" gearbox.

      That would be my guess.


    11. Member Issam Abed's Avatar
      Join Date
      Feb 12th, 2004
      Location
      EVERYWHERE
      Posts
      13,367
      Vehicles
      91 Audi 80 2.0T
      10-15-2005 11:43 PM #11
      Quote, originally posted by QuickTD »

      That would be my guess.

      Its actually a Volvo 850 TD gearbox


    12. 10-16-2005 09:21 AM #12
      That is good news. It puts this swap into the realm of possible, though expensive...

    13. Member Issam Abed's Avatar
      Join Date
      Feb 12th, 2004
      Location
      EVERYWHERE
      Posts
      13,367
      Vehicles
      91 Audi 80 2.0T
      10-16-2005 09:30 AM #13
      Quote, originally posted by QuickTD »
      That is good news. It puts this swap into the realm of impossible, though expensive...

      dont think volvo TD's came Stateside.The Transporter T3 uses a 02A gearbox but the engine sits 15 degrees forward.Here are some pictures of a Volvo TD engine bay:


    14. 10-16-2005 02:22 PM #14
      No volvo 850TD's came stateside, but, believe it or not, there's a whole 'nother world out there... Europe has lots, just talk nice to your local foreign car parts importer and they could likely set you up with a complete drivetrain, for a price... The fabrication work to make it fit would be up to you. I could do it, but someone else would have to pay for it.

    15. Member Issam Abed's Avatar
      Join Date
      Feb 12th, 2004
      Location
      EVERYWHERE
      Posts
      13,367
      Vehicles
      91 Audi 80 2.0T
      10-16-2005 11:45 PM #15
      Quote, originally posted by QuickTD »
      there's a whole 'nother world out there... Europe has lots


      Thats where I got my 6-Speed FWD box from.It came from a 2.5TDi A6 Station Wagon with the exact same engine,just different intake manifold.This would definately be an option for a Golf Mk2 and the 850 TD came with a 6-Speed Transverse box (probably uses the same GTi internals).


    16. 10-17-2005 09:57 AM #16
      Quote, originally posted by Wizard-of-OD »
      Its actually a Volvo 850 TD gearbox

      Volvo 850 TDI.

      Same VW TDI engine, different car. VW even allowed Volvo to use the "TDI" name for their cars.


    17. Member Issam Abed's Avatar
      Join Date
      Feb 12th, 2004
      Location
      EVERYWHERE
      Posts
      13,367
      Vehicles
      91 Audi 80 2.0T
      12-06-2005 07:33 AM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by TexasVWdriver
      Same VW TDI engine, different car. VW even allowed Volvo to use the "TDI" name for their cars.
      I know its a TDi but everywhere has it listed as a Volvo 850 TD.More pictures:



      Last edited by Issam Abed; 12-31-2012 at 06:38 PM.

    18. 12-06-2005 10:16 PM #18
      mamamia that is one sweet jetta or should I say Bora wagon TDi...amazing

    19. 12-07-2005 04:44 PM #19
      Quote, originally posted by xanctus »
      mamamia that is one sweet jetta or should I say Bora wagon TDi...amazing

      i concur


    20. Member woofie2's Avatar
      Join Date
      Oct 2nd, 2003
      Posts
      2,607
      Vehicles
      something new coming soon
      12-07-2005 05:08 PM #20
      Quote, originally posted by xanctus »
      mamamia that is one sweet jetta or should I say Bora wagon TDi...amazing

      I want it to have my Kids, Er, um, carry my kids.

    21. 12-12-2005 10:15 AM #21
      I was having a good day until I ran into this thread! NOW, I feel like an igonorant, unfortunate, deprived colonial!

      So, let me salvage something of my dignity: Anyone know what bolt pattern is on the 2.5 TDI in the 850 application (or the Audi for that matter, or the T4 - which I think also came with this engine)? i.e., are they all VW or Audi pattern, or is the 850 unique?

      Pat


    22. Member Issam Abed's Avatar
      Join Date
      Feb 12th, 2004
      Location
      EVERYWHERE
      Posts
      13,367
      Vehicles
      91 Audi 80 2.0T
      12-13-2005 08:14 AM #22
      Quote, originally posted by Pat Dolan »
      Anyone know what bolt pattern is on the 2.5 TDI in the 850 application

      The Bolt pattern on the bell housing is the same as the Audi Inline-5 engine's since the 850TD is an Audi engine.The gearbox that comes with the 850TD is a VW gearbox but its different to the one found in the transporter (Transporter bellhousing causes I-5 engine to lean too far forward).A vortexer messaged me last week saying that he was going to attempt this swap and is looking for a 850TD combination in UK.
      all I can say is watch this space....

      In other news,just when you think VW/Audi MS had reached the pinnacle of there performance development they turn around and blow things way out of proportion.
      This is supposed to be the replacement for the ever winning LeMans R8.How do you think the competition is going to feel loosing to a Diesel?I could just see the T-Shirt sales now.... "our cars can run on cooking oil,who wants french fries?"

      ...the AUDI R10



    23. Member
      Join Date
      Oct 2nd, 2001
      Posts
      5,153
      Vehicles
      2006 Jetta TDI, 1996 Golf TDI, 1997 Golf Variant Syncro TDI, 1993 Eurovan TDI
      12-13-2005 03:25 PM #23
      Reading about it makes me giddy. Let's hope the clutch holds up

    24. 12-13-2005 05:34 PM #24

      its hard to tell from the pics, but how many cylinders is it? it looks like a V12, or a V10 to me

    25. Member Issam Abed's Avatar
      Join Date
      Feb 12th, 2004
      Location
      EVERYWHERE
      Posts
      13,367
      Vehicles
      91 Audi 80 2.0T
      12-13-2005 05:50 PM #25
      Its a V12.Audi's first V12...
      not only are we kissing the W8 goodbye,but looks as though the W12 is on its way out.
      Imagine an A8 owner walking into a dealership and being approached by the sales agent.I could just picture it now...

      Sales agent : "excuse me Sir,would you like your A8 with a V12TDi or W12?"
      customer : "whats wrong with a V10 TDi"
      sales agent : "nothing at all,just that Audi decided to reinvent the wheel again and add 2 more cylinders to the allready highly successful engine"
      customer : "If I wanted a V12 I would have bought a Mercedes-Benz"


    26. 12-16-2005 03:23 PM #26
      Nice, Diesel power is what we need ...

    27. 12-17-2005 04:39 PM #27
      I need to hear those cars

      NEED to NEED to! I wanna hear a prototype car that sounds like a cummins.


    28. 12-19-2005 12:08 PM #28
      The Wix posted: " Thats where I got my 6-Speed FWD box from.It came from a 2.5TDi A6 Station Wagon with the exact same engine, etc. " and it almost slipped by me. Are you telling me that an A6 (as in C5 platform) in Europe is a TRANSVERSE installation now????????

    29. 01-13-2006 04:39 PM #29

      I need to hear those cars

      NEED to NEED to! I wanna hear a prototype car that sounds like a cummins.


      i read that the drivers had to adjust to not being able to hear the engine like they were used to with past cars.


    30. 01-14-2006 06:49 AM #30
      I heard that the R10 makes me wet in the crotch area....

    31. Member Issam Abed's Avatar
      Join Date
      Feb 12th, 2004
      Location
      EVERYWHERE
      Posts
      13,367
      Vehicles
      91 Audi 80 2.0T
      03-19-2006 06:13 AM #31
      Quote, originally posted by Pat Dolan »
      Are you telling me that an A6 (as in C5 platform) in Europe is a TRANSVERSE installation now????????

      No,longitudinal.I only deal with transverse If I have to.I wanted a 6-speed FWD box and the only way for me to get one was by getting a whole Audi A6 2.5TDi bundle.
      Quote, originally posted by Ricky Rockstar »
      I heard that the R10 makes me wet in the crotch area....

      I heard the R10 makes the competition chunky in the bum area .I am convinced more now than ever before that VAG,more importantly Audi as a brand will always be leaders in the automotive industry.I bet they ban TDi technology next year
      I feel proud every morning I walk to my car and see the 4 rings united as 1.
      (did that just make you all giddy inside like it did me?)

      Found another shot of the TDi endurance race car from this website.


      I hope the guys dont mind but I took the liberty of answering these questions from this thread.

      Quote, originally posted by mej3 »
      What can you tell me about the 5 cylinder 2.4 liter diesel engine from canadian and european eurovans?

      Its just like the 1.6TD engines following the Indirect injection scheme.Knowing VAG and their need to use lego.I would say that the pistons and rods are the same as the 1.9TD units,NOT TDi as TDi pistons have a bowl in them.The rods between the 2 may be the same but unfortunately I dont have any infront of me to clarify.
      Quote, originally posted by Black Smokin’ Diesel »
      Is that figure on stock internals? Can it be swapped in a MK2?

      Knowing you mate,anything is possible .I would love to see a 2.5TDi converted into a Mk2,Mk3 or even MK4 shell.

    32. 03-20-2006 12:20 PM #32
      Nice....

    33. Member
      Join Date
      Nov 26th, 2004
      Location
      London, ON
      Posts
      414
      Vehicles
      1997 Jetta TD
      03-22-2006 04:07 PM #33
      if someones gets it into an MK2 be sure to contact me because i would do the same.

    34. 03-22-2006 06:54 PM #34
      Quote, originally posted by okanTDI »
      if someones gets it into an MK2 be sure to contact me because i would do the same.


      x2


    35. 05-19-2006 09:15 AM #35
      I thought my 03 Golf was the endurance TDi car. I drive 240 km round trip to work and have clocked 179 000 km in just under three years.

    Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast

    Posting Permissions

    • You may not post new threads
    • You may not post replies
    • You may not post attachments
    • You may not edit your posts
    •