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    Thread: USRT Group Buy: Snow Performance water/alky injection

    1. 02-13-2006 03:26 PM #51
      Scott, just since this 'watched topic" jumped again, there are tax refunds for you to gather. Perhaps NOW!!! is a good time to bring back the H20/meth injection GB? Just wondering out loud and all...

      Dave

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      02-14-2006 10:11 AM #52
      Quote, originally posted by ThaCorradoKid »
      is this an appropriate setup for a daily driver? does it require tweaking/calibration etc. I think it looks like a good kit for a serious setup, but i'm not sure it fits what i'm shootin for.

      Well... if your daily driver needs the detonation control that would otherwise require race gas, then yes it is entirely appropriate. For *maximum* output (which means constantly riding the edge of mechanical destruction) you certainly will need to tweak and adjust. WAI is no different then any other tuning technology in this respect.
      However, you don't need to push nearly that hard to make effective use of these systems. Set it for the amount of boost that you plan to run, fuel octane, etc., and then leave it alone for the most part. Now, if the ambient air temperature drops by 50deg or if you're stuck with 87 octane fuel, then that obviously changes the engine's propensity to detonate. So, you'd change the WAI trigger settings accordingly.
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      Also, would a snobby rich chick complain about the noise of the pump on a late-nite cruise through some quite back roads?

      Snobby rich chicks complain about *everything* that isn't perfect like Daddy. So, get buff, earn that PhD, buy a huge house by the beach, trade the Dub for a Porsche, and *then* worry about the pump's noise.
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    3. 02-14-2006 06:36 PM #53
      Here's a second vote for your needing to collect peoples' tax return money. Bring the group buy back and you can start with mine.

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      02-14-2006 06:50 PM #54
      Alright alright! Short of doing an outright group buy, I'll temporarily offer the kits for $359 + $15 shipping. Putting USRT info in your sig for a month or two would be a nice gesture for the $40 saved. [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]
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    5. 02-15-2006 01:34 AM #55
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      02-15-2006 06:56 AM #56
      Quote, originally posted by Scott@USRT »
      Alright alright! Short of doing an outright group buy, I'll temporarily offer the kits for $359 + $15 shipping. Putting USRT info in your sig for a month or two would be a nice gesture for the $40 saved. [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

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    7. 02-15-2006 07:06 AM #57
      signature changed! Thanks again Scott for a great Spring project that adds a lifetime of "more"...
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      02-15-2006 11:08 AM #58
      I think I want in.

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      02-15-2006 11:27 AM #59
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      Which kit?

      We're talkin' Stage II hotness with either controller, sir. That's the way to go unless you're managing the system with a standalone engine management and a high-speed solenoid.
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    10. 02-15-2006 08:23 PM #60
      What do you guys think of the integrity of the stock internals of an obd2 mk3 ABA already seeing 16psi daily on double stacked gaskets. There a few other guys that claim that 18psi is as far as I should go. Would WI be worth me looking into with stock internals?

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      02-16-2006 02:10 PM #61
      Similar to high-octane fuel, water injection effectively reduces an engine's propensity for detonation. This is a good thing for any engine and is especially important for one pushed well beyond its normal limits like yours. Remember, though, that WAI doesn't *make* power by itself. Rather, it simply expands the safe performance envelope created by the actual power adders (e.g. turbo).
      As for the head gasket recommendation, I'll leave that for somebody else to answer. A good source of information about this sort of thing is Paul from Boost Factory.
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    12. 02-16-2006 03:33 PM #62
      Can probably ditch the double stacked gaskets and raise the compression and improve the quench area on the piston. The WI will tolerate boost on a higher compression engine. It will make your rods last longer only if you are detonating.

    13. 02-16-2006 08:37 PM #63
      ring lands?

    14. 03-02-2006 10:19 AM #64
      Hmmm, last few posts might be off topic? Just checking cause I think this thread is about WAI and how great Scott@USRT is to keep the price low for us craving more powa!
      Scott, got it, but zero degree temps are preventing this wimp from installing it. Can't wait to "set it and forget it" like Ron Popiel suggests.
      Dave

    15. 03-02-2006 10:24 AM #65
      yeah it's too damn cold to be working on the car right now. Ill have some dyno testing with and without water injection on my APR stg III setup when the weather gets better. I anticipate gains, and a big improvement in back to back heat soak.

    16. 03-04-2006 10:29 PM #66
      Bump beause taxes are being returned and Spring is just around the corner!

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    18. 03-30-2006 09:05 PM #68
      what goes into installing one of these kits?
      also if its complicated what do you charge for the install?

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      03-31-2006 09:51 AM #69
      What's complicated for one person is elementary for another. With that said, though, installing a water/alky injection kit isn't really all that much of a big deal. You can find the installation instructions via the USRT website. Scroll down below the picture of the system and you'll see the link for "system installation". That'll bring up a PDF file with all the details. [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]
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    20. 03-31-2006 12:48 PM #70
      you can run propane with nitrous on gas motor to get some good power. i know a guy with an older viper thats supercharged with nitrous and propane. its makin 950 to the wheels. alone propane doesnt do much but with nitrous it kits ass.

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      03-31-2006 01:12 PM #71
      Why did this chap go with propane injection (which is more typically done with turbo diesels) rather than water/alcohol?
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    22. 03-31-2006 05:29 PM #72
      im not really sure. 950 to the wheels, i didnt really ask why. ill try to find out.

    23. 04-09-2006 10:12 PM #73
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    24. 04-19-2006 08:38 PM #74
      Does anyone have a general install for this set-up on a supercharged motor?

    25. 04-19-2006 09:33 PM #75
      I don't know. But it would be nice to reference another install before i do mine.

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