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    Thread: For the FAQ: VW/Audi 502.00 and 505.01 Approved Oils [Moved]

    1. 04-23-2007 10:01 PM #51
      Those are some good points - especially when I stop to consider that the "VW/Audi" oil filter they install says right on it that it's rated for 2 years/ 30,000 kilometers. I think they're screwing us on this whole oil thing.
      The inside "buzz" I've gotten on this issue of sludging from some VW guys is that it's oil pan capacity that they believe is creating the problem - not the oil itself. Apparently the shallow pan doesn't allow for sufficient cooling before the oil is returned to the engine. I know some guys will immediately think, "well it's because of the turbo..." - yeah okay, but it isn't the turbo coking up and dying that is the problem, it's sludge in the pan. Think about it. Seems like they could save themselves and the rest of us a lot of money if they just put a REAL oil cooler on the car (you know, like most other european car manufacturers), or cast some cooling fins into the pan. Once my warranty expires, I'm putting a Wahler oil cooler on the engine, and going back to plain old Castrol GTX. I put nearly 400k on one of my MKII's with that oil, and God knows, that engine worked one hell of a lot harder than the 1.8T in my GTI does.
      My .02 - Any company that builds a little car which they later claim requires a $40 - $50 do-it-yourself oil change should be ashamed of their product, and of themselves. And you know that they are, becasue they don't even have the decency to list these specifics in the owners manual.

    2. 08-29-2007 02:46 PM #52
      http://www.audiusa.com/etc/med...e.pdf
      Right click & Save as... it's easier.

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      09-01-2007 11:29 PM #53
      f'n awesome, about to do a oil change in a few days. thanks man. [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]
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      09-01-2007 11:50 PM #54
      nice, i forgot this was coming out this summer. ill have to update my oil spec thread one of these days.
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    5. 09-01-2007 11:53 PM #55
      No Royal Purple?
      Oh well, I use Mobil1 synthetic anyway.

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      09-01-2007 11:56 PM #56
      wait a minute, So does that mean the Elf Excellium LX that we sell at work is no longer a vw approved oil? We do use the Elf Excellium DID for all Pump Duse engines, so that is still covered.

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      09-01-2007 11:58 PM #57
      interesting.. guess not.
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    8. 09-02-2007 12:02 AM #58
      oh snap... I've been using 5w 30 since I got the car... are there any long term effects from this?

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      09-02-2007 12:05 AM #59
      all questions can be answered here.
      For the FAQ: VW/Audi 502.00 and 505.01 Approved Oils
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      09-02-2007 12:11 AM #60
      merged with the original 502/505 spec thread. thanks GT17V
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    11. 09-02-2007 12:14 AM #61
      Quote, originally posted by fixmy59bug »
      wait a minute, So does that mean the Elf Excellium LX that we sell at work is no longer a vw approved oil? We do use the Elf Excellium DID for all Pump Duse engines, so that is still covered.

      According to Elf's website, the Excellium LDX is still 502.00/505.00
      If you also noticed, VAG has a 502.00/505.01 oil now, equivalent to the DID

    12. 09-02-2007 10:21 PM #62
      isn't the oil weight used determined by elevation and average daily temps?
      IE someone in Colorado might use a thinner oil versus someone in Texas?

    13. 09-02-2007 10:32 PM #63
      The VW502.00 specification is made to cover engines subjected to "arduous conditions"--- if people in Colorado are worried.... there is Mobil 1 0w40. Better flow characteristics than a 5 weight at freezing temperatures.
      Many of the TDIclub folks are messing around with Elf Evolution 0w30
      http://www.lubadmin.com/upload...8.pdf

    14. 09-02-2007 10:41 PM #64
      okay so does using the wrong weight oil have any negative effects on the engine?
      now that I've checked I think that I've been using 5w 30 mobil 1 synthetic for at least 2 years now...

    15. 09-02-2007 10:45 PM #65
      Quote, originally posted by Kiddo »
      okay so does using the wrong weight oil have any negative effects on the engine?
      now that I've checked I think that I've been using 5w 30 mobil 1 synthetic for at least 2 years now...

      Too heavy is bad at start-up conditions. Not having the proper additive package compared to oil change intervals means you're risking engine longevity

    16. 09-02-2007 11:02 PM #66
      Quote, originally posted by GT17V »
      Too heavy is bad at start-up conditions. Not having the proper additive package compared to oil change intervals means you're risking engine longevity

      i need to change my oil...

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      11-04-2007 07:25 PM #67
      what bout royal purple?

    18. 11-04-2007 07:27 PM #68
      Quote, originally posted by crazyzdux »
      what bout royal purple?

      if its not on the list i doubt its VW/Audi approved

    19. 11-08-2007 12:39 PM #69
      I used Mobil 1 0W-40 on my 2003 Passat 1.8T since 500 Miles. I went to the Mobil 1 website & for a 2007 Passat 2.0T Fsi (my new one) they still recommend 0W-40 because it meets VW 502.00 standards...but the manual says to use 5W-40 or any oil that meets the VW 502.00 standard. Does the weight matter that much living in NJ, or should I change the oil ASAP back from 0W-40 to 5W-40? I just want what's best!!!

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      11-22-2007 06:30 PM #70
      on your next change, just put in something 502/5 approved. [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]
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    21. 12-20-2007 01:50 AM #71
      good reads here!!

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      12-20-2007 02:06 AM #72
      been using all of liqui moly products and they are awesome! changing my oil every 10000 km...

    23. 12-20-2007 02:18 AM #73
      Quote, originally posted by limapolo »
      been using all of liqui moly products and they are awesome! changing my oil every 10000 km...

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      12-20-2007 10:40 AM #74
      bien gracias! [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

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      12-20-2007 10:43 AM #75
      In the UK PD TDIs use Quantum 5W-40.
      Just thought I'd add that in.

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