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    Thread: For the FAQ: VW/Audi 502.00 and 505.01 Approved Oils [Moved]

    1. 12-20-2007 02:50 AM #71
      good reads here!!


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      12-20-2007 03:06 AM #72
      been using all of liqui moly products and they are awesome! changing my oil every 10000 km...


    3. 12-20-2007 03:18 AM #73
      Quote, originally posted by limapolo »
      been using all of liqui moly products and they are awesome! changing my oil every 10000 km...


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      12-20-2007 11:40 AM #74
      bien gracias!

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      12-20-2007 11:43 AM #75
      In the UK PD TDIs use Quantum 5W-40.

      Just thought I'd add that in.


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      01-08-2008 10:33 PM #76
      At my local Napa today I was informed that the Napa Synthetic branded oil is really Valvoline Synpower (5W-30) repackaged into different bottles. It's about $4.70/quart vs. $5.99/quart for the Valvoline package.

      I trust my local guys - can anyone confirm or deny this statement?

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      01-08-2008 10:46 PM #77
      Quote, originally posted by limapolo »
      been using all of liqui moly products and they are awesome! changing my oil every 10000 km...

      I use this stuff all the time, summer and winter
      used to use Mobil1. switched to this and never turned back


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      09-12-2008 07:30 PM #78
      Pentosin High Performance 5W-40 - Sold in US
      VW-Specification 502 00 / 505 00

      Also Lubro-moly, AGIP-Agip Synthetic PC 5W-40 oil.


      Modified by AZV6 at 3:40 PM 9-12-2008


    9. 09-13-2008 07:41 PM #79
      European Car Mag just came in about OILS, Amsoil sure ain't listed. There is a DIFFERENCE between APPROVED and "exceeds mfg warrantys" Approved is stuff tested by VW, and the mfg PAID for TESTS, anyone can claim anything based on their tests, VW tests get it APPROVED, so many brands are, why use something that ain't? BMW Benz Audi all the same way of oil specs. Castrol Syntec seems to be big with VW Since the stuff costs all about the same use what's on the LIST!!! One grade of Sysntec doesn't have the wording Approved by VW 502, 505 etc, then the 10W 40 has for the A6 2.7BiTurbo. Why buy stuff that ain't listed, so many brands so many choisces are on the list

    10. 09-13-2008 07:45 PM #80
      My VR6 1998 with 275,000 miles and no issues at all, uses the stuff in the 55gal drums at the dealer, looks like Penzoil 10/30. The Audi A6 got the Castrol 10W 40 Syntec. They tell me the TURBO lube is critical in VW's, cus if a tuiny oil hole gets clogged from the wrong stuff, goodbye turbo...big bucks, so far no problems there either ever for years and years, MAINTAINANCE keeps things going.

    11. 10-01-2008 07:45 AM #81
      Is that oil ester based?

    12. 10-01-2008 08:44 AM #82
      Quote, originally posted by WSUCougar »
      Is that oil ester based?

      Unlikely. As far as I know, there are exactly zero ester based oils that are on the VW/Audi "Approved" list of oils.


    13. 10-01-2008 09:56 AM #83
      Quote, originally posted by WSUCougar »
      Is that oil ester based?

      Group V base oil and extended drain intervals do not mix.

      They won't be 100% group IV either, unless you're willing to pay 50% more. Price is a major concern for the oil manufacturers, example;

      Here's a pic I took during my vacation in Germany this past summer:

      Yes, that price tag really says Euro 105 for a 5L jug. I also saw oils from Mobil, Shell and Valvoline at or above Euro 100 for 5L.

      If we weren't a large emerging market for these companies, we'd be spending $150+ for that oil as well.

      Price is a major concern for the oil manufacturers.


    14. 10-09-2008 11:27 PM #84
      edited for not reading right.


      Modified by kiddcarbuff at 10:35 PM 10-9-2008

    15. 10-10-2008 04:36 PM #85
      Recommended by (Amsoil) is NOT the same as being approved by VW or Audi.

      Amsoil will void your warranty for oil related warranty claims....................


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      10-13-2008 01:33 AM #86
      Quote, originally posted by MikeWire »
      At my local Napa today I was informed that the Napa Synthetic branded oil is really Valvoline Synpower (5W-30) repackaged into different bottles. It's about $4.70/quart vs. $5.99/quart for the Valvoline package.

      I trust my local guys - can anyone confirm or deny this statement?

      Valvoline Synpower 5W-30 (meeting ILSAC GF-4) as commonly sold in the US does not have any VW ratings.

      Now, if you can find Valvoline Synpower MST 5W-30 or 5W-40 (not meeting ILSAC GF-4), that has VW 502.00, 505.00, and 505.01 ratings, according to Valvoline.

      http://www.valvoline.com/products/Synpower.pdf


    17. 11-18-2008 12:38 AM #87
      ya no royal purp or AMSOIL for shame.

    18. 11-18-2008 03:49 AM #88
      "ya no royal purp or AMSOIL for shame."

      You might want to take a look at this thread... http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=4116404

      Cheers


    19. 11-22-2008 12:51 AM #89
      Approved or not here is a list of MAJOR companys in the oil market. Some good info.

      A complete series of oil quality tests was conducted by Bret Boster of Puyallup, Washington on a series of popular oils including Torco, AMSoil, Castrol, Mobil and others. The tests were performed by Sam Blumenstein of COME Racing Engines, on their in-house dyno. The tests, being run by an AMSoil representative, might have been biased. Yet you can study the methods and results in the document Oil Against Oils” http://www.performanceoilnews....shtml and decide for yourself if this was a battle of “oil philosophies” - or an actual battle for blood between the oils themselves rather than the experts. The overall rating according to Boster:

      1. AMSOIL
      2. BP Visco 5000
      3. Mobil 1
      4. Mobil 1 (different price)
      5. Hi-Tec HTO
      6. Shell Helix Ultra
      7. Royal Purple
      8. Castrol R
      9. Castrol SLX
      10. Torco


    20. 12-01-2008 01:08 PM #90
      I have a 2008 Jetta and the manual says the car needs 502.00 oil. What gives?

    21. 12-01-2008 03:24 PM #91
      Quote, originally posted by the_humeister »
      I have a 2008 Jetta and the manual says the car needs 502.00 oil. What gives?

      VW has set a number of oil quality standards for use in all their vehicles. 502.00 is the spec that applies to most of their gasoline engines. All oils that meet the standard are synthetic and most are either 0w40 or 5w40 though there are a few 0w30. Any oil you choose on this list is approved http://www.audiusa.com/etc/med...e.pdf.

      There are certainly other high quality oils that are not found on the list. However, VW is well within their legal rights to deny any lubricant related warranty claim you may have if you cannot prove that your motor has been filled with an oil on the approved list.

      edit: Mobil 1 0w40 & Castrol Syntec 5w40 are typically the easiest to find at your local retailer. Though most others can be ordered if you prefer.


      Modified by bcze1 at 12:26 PM 12-1-2008


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      02-15-2009 01:41 PM #92
      FWIW, my girls 2008 GTi owners manual specifies 502.00, not 505 as listed on the front page. I'll probably just use an oil which covers both since she is worried about her warranty.


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      02-15-2009 04:13 PM #93
      if you notice.... i made this in 2005. Use whatever oil is specified by the manufacture for your vehicle.
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      02-15-2009 06:00 PM #94
      Quote, originally posted by metallica71787 »
      A complete series of oil quality tests was conducted by Bret Boster of Puyallup, Washington on a series of popular oils including Torco, AMSoil, Castrol, Mobil and others. The tests were performed by Sam Blumenstein of COME Racing Engines, on their in-house dyno. The tests, being run by an AMSoil representative, might have been biased. Yet you can study the methods and results in the document Oil Against Oils” http://www.performanceoilnews....shtml and decide for yourself if this was a battle of “oil philosophies” - or an actual battle for blood between the oils themselves rather than the experts. The overall rating according to Boster:

      Engine used was a 5L V8 engine, presumably not a VW or Audi engine. An oil that works well in that engine may not necessarily be the best oil for some other engine.


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      02-16-2009 02:49 PM #95
      Quote, originally posted by bhb399mm »
      if you notice.... i made this in 2005. Use whatever oil is specified by the manufacture for your vehicle.


      Just saw that.

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      02-16-2009 07:37 PM #96
      thats what i would have done too. if the oil is on both spec lists, cant really go wrong.

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      03-06-2009 06:49 PM #98
      Quote, originally posted by napkinn »
      What are the *'s for?

      oils that should be available in the States.

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      03-18-2009 12:08 PM #99
      I didnt see Royal Purple there.
      Isnt that VW Approved?
      I use Royal Purple 5w30

    30. 03-18-2009 12:14 PM #100
      Quote, originally posted by GTI71806 »
      I didnt see Royal Purple there.
      Isnt that VW Approved?

      Nope.


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      03-18-2009 12:20 PM #101
      Quote, originally posted by bcze1 »

      Nope.

      damn, that sucks.

      it works just fine..

      im thinking about switching next oilchange anyways.

      thanks for that input


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      05-29-2011 03:04 PM #102
      Perhaps I overlooked the obvious, but a guy in the VW Lounge asked and I am curious...

      How many quarts does the 2.8L VR6 take?

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      05-29-2011 08:03 PM #103
      Quote Originally Posted by PSU View Post
      Perhaps I overlooked the obvious, but a guy in the VW Lounge asked and I am curious...

      How many quarts does the 2.8L VR6 take?

      Andrew,
      Just like the 3.2 VR6, the 12V 2.8 takes 5.8 quarts. See below:
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      and here for 24V, still 5.8 qts.
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      05-29-2011 08:13 PM #104
      Quote Originally Posted by jwbekens View Post
      Andrew,
      Just like the 3.2 VR6, the 12V 2.8 takes 5.8 quarts. See below:
      http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?1749962

      and here for 24V, still 5.8 qts.
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      Thanks!

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      05-31-2011 10:06 AM #105
      A quicky update to the FAQ

      This applies to all fixed-interval oil changes in the US/Canada

      All the gasoline engines (1998 to present) require VW502.00 oil. There are exceptions. The 4.2L V8 FSI on the Audi RS4/6 require VW505.01 (even though the correct oil was 503.01). VW504.00, does supercede VW502.00, so it is also acceptable.

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      All VE-pump (up to 2003) require 505.00 oil.
      All Pump-Duse (2004+) require 505.01 (though.... the V10 TDI in the Touareg did require 506.01, however, US/Canada inventory only had 505.01)
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