VR6 Nitrous user registry?

[TheSykestGTI]

i have two questions. i have a 00 vr6 with cams (262s) and intake/exhaust. i wanted to run a dry shot since thats what i had on my other car (98 eclipse boooo!) but now im leaning towards a wet shot. will the stock fuel pump support a 75 shot and where is the best placement for the fogger on these 12v's? thanks

[divineVR6]

im installing my fogger in the MAF housing AFTER the sensor. i wouldnt think that you would need to step up your fuel pump yet. i have a 98 with a 129k on the block and it should be fine.

Another place is to put the fogger in the Elbow after your MAF.

[TheSykestGTI]

sounds good i will prob. put it in that elbow. and one last question for everyone. what is the best nozzle out right now?

[divineVR6]

i cant honestly answer that one, i know the NX kit i bought came with the SHARK Nozzle

-THROTTLE- was telling me if i was gonna run the throttle body plate then i would need the Piranah nozzle since its stubbier.

-THROTTLE- and NJVENTO is the same person

heres a link to a thread i had going that i got some good information from people

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3189131


Modified by divineVR6 at 3:07 PM 6-3-2008

[TheSykestGTI]

read through the post. pretty good info there. im gonna do a compression test tonight and hopefully order some parts. a friend of mine gave me a zex air ejector air filter any thoughts on running a dry shot through there? i put it on my car for now cuz its cleaner than my neuspeed... but just wondering about it... thanks again for all the info

[vproject]

For redskins98:
Check the forum on the website of MSD. Their are several posts regarding vw in general and vr6 in particular.
MSD Techs can provide you with diagrams how to hook it up.

Me myself on my DISTRIBUTOR vr6 I have MSD Blaster SS Coils and
the MSD Digital SCI+ Ignition.
The MSD is hidden under the water deflector next to the ECU.

[TheSykestGTI]

anybody? somebodys has gotta have some spray time with that filter thing. and how do vw maf's hold up to the spray?

[CabrioVR]

ttt bump this up, might be a stupid question but on the topic of direct port nitrous, has anyone ever tried the noszzle kit ? seems like a really good idea since there will be no puddling but i could be wrong

[Boost112]

Quote, originally posted by CabrioVR »

ttt bump this up, might be a stupid question but on the topic of direct port nitrous, has anyone ever tried the noszzle kit ? seems like a really good idea since there will be no puddling but i could be wrong

what do you mean by noszzle kit.....

[franomania]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/2...1369/

I just finsihed installing my 75shot NOS Sniper system...on that pic the arrow is where the fogger is pointing directly into the throttle body its about 3 and a quarter inches away from the throttle body i thought this would be the best since its not pointing into the intake walls at all...also theres a hose going from the valve cover into the intake which covers my intake with oil which is right where my nozzle is and nitous + oil dont mix right? what should i do with that?

[divineVR6]

i put my nozzle right into the MAF housing behind the sensor, picked up another housing so whenever i wanted to go back.

that hose you are talking about is your PCV valve, i think you have to pick up a whole nother intake elbow for that, runs about $115 i think

[JF1283MK3VR6]

How is your setup working out for you so far divine?

[JIIP]

Quote, originally posted by JF1283MK3VR6 »

How is your setup working out for you so far divine?

x2 want more info thinking about a 50-75 shot

[GermanRob]

bumpy for new info on MAF mod.... please

[sylvain_88]

Great thread!

I have got alot of information from you guys, so here is what I would like to do.

I want to get a NOS Sniper kit. Part# is 07005NOS. I would also like to run a wet 75shot single fogger before the TB, like in the MAF housing.

I have a AAA 12v with 2.9L clone intake. I got the head shaved 20thou and run a MK4 head gasket. The car is chiped now but I am not sure what the chip is.. It came with the car.. I have stock cams, 2.5" exhaust, and cone intake in the bumper..

My questions are:
1- would I be safe running a 75 wet shot?
2- Should I go back to stock ECU
3- what do you think of the kit?

Any recomendations?

Thanks!

[Rusty Dan]

2 degrees of timing should be taken from every 50 hp of nitrous, for 150bhp nos you need to go 6 degrees off and that should be controlled by your ecu (believe knock sensor???) i would think no extra need for MSD etc..

the ECU should be able to govern the amount of extra fuel needed for the fogger nitrous system and i would not go more than 75 dry on a vr as suggested to me.

Wet DP is the best way to be sure of getting equal flow of both fuel and nitrous to the cylinders..

I am planning on running big nitrous on a vr for the future so hopefully all is well with it.

[daloztprophet]

sleeper....like me and my whole....i like side mounts better than front mounts! sleeper...lol no blow off valves just a smell of i got burned... classic ill keep that in mind in case i go n20

[VRTT]

Hey Jason, I seen your car a couple times parked on Weber Street last year, I always wondered who the owner was, nice.

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Modified by VRTT at 4:35 AM 1-7-2010

[X37]

Just picked up 2 Nitrous Express bottles and lines. Now the question is what do I need to run all this stuff. Need_A_VR6 has a pretty awesome write up on Megasquirt and a buddy of mine is successfully running MS with E85 on his big turbo Volvo and will help me tune my car with MS. My question is, what fittings do I need to do a wet, direct port system. And how do I engage it, solenoids? Is there a wiring diagram. I'm very inexperienced with Nitrous but I want to learn

[hvactech]

old thread bump, anyone still playing with nitrous on their 12 valve?

[wolfens_golf]

sweet thread! could someone piece together a 200 dollar kit from ebay? some guys mentioned thats what they've spent which is very very reasonable.

im planning on a dry 50 or 75 shot into my vr im swapping into my corrado. the motor wil be basically stock with some cams eventully and dp, cai, chip.

[hvactech]

sweet thread! could someone piece together a 200 dollar kit from ebay? some guys mentioned thats what they've spent which is very very reasonable.

im planning on a dry 50 or 75 shot into my vr im swapping into my corrado. the motor wil be basically stock with some cams eventully and dp, cai, chip.

ive got a wet nx kit with all safety features progressively controlled from my old 98 gti 12 valve waiting to put on my jetta 12 valve. why dry?

[wolfens_golf]

ive got a wet nx kit with all safety features progressively controlled from my old 98 gti 12 valve waiting to put on my jetta 12 valve. why dry?

to be honest, im under the impression that dry is less expensive to install. also it seems alittle more stealth than a wet shot. especially looking at some of the pics posted in this thread with all the individual nozzles to each intake port(looks sweet). im not bashing wet at all. this is my knowledge which isnt much lol. maybe someone can convince me otherwise.

[GTIVRon]

Dry kit is cheaper than wet.

For a small shot, dry is also safer than wet. Just make sure you install everything right and that your fueling is sufficient.

If you want to go with a bigger shot, wet is the only way to go IMO.

[wolfens_golf]

Dry kit is cheaper than wet.

For a small shot, dry is also safer than wet. Just make sure you install everything right and that your fueling is sufficient.

If you want to go with a bigger shot, wet is the only way to go IMO.

awesome! thank you. what shot would you recomend? 50? 75?



Oh almost forgot. im sure i could use a obd2 chip? like a giac or somthing along that line?

[GTIVRon]

I've seen 75 dry shot setups, but can't speak for longevity because I don't know. Personally I'd stick to 50 dry.

Since chips advance timing, I'd run a stock chip with a larger shot. GIAC is pretty aggressive I think... log a run with vagcom and see how much timing it pulls with a stock chip. If it doesn't pull any, try with a chip and log it too.

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[10silverbullet]

does anyone have a time slip ? how fast can we go whit juice? im running like 150-200 shot on my vr6 12v whit 24.5 M/T drag tire . Going for 11s this week end ! posting picture and video next week for you guys . maybe someone is pushing it as far as me ? let me know pleae wanna share some trick!

[vwmaniac16vr6]

for anybody interested i can make custom software for people running nos on MK4 Me7 management 12v or 24v . so IM me if you would like to really tune that nitrous system with some timing ect...

[hvactech]

no mk3 12 valves? other person: whats your line up while using a 200 shot, it has to be staged correct? ive seen vids from 12 valves running 12's on 50-75 shots so 150-200 would be crazy

[need_a_VR6]

I have seen a stock motor plus 200 shot dyno. Made 350whp spot on. Fuel/timing controlled by Megasquirt. Unfortunately, it ended up eating a ringland before it could hit the track.

[10silverbullet]

I dont tink you can reache 200 shot whit the vr6 ecu! that why i use SDS management system put in it forged piston , ARP head bolts, and its good to go! problem whit nos is that power come fast like 40 revolutions! Thats freaking fast! I dont have a progressive controller( i wish) Instead im using a window switch (it come whit the SDS) and i make sure thant i dont spray untill 4000 rpm cause remember when you hit 200 shot the less rpm you have the more power it give cause the flow OF NOS is still the same from 4000 to 7800 but the motor is sucking more air thru the rpm band! thats why i play whit the timing to loss a little bit of power when i hit the NOS it make a much smoother transition! IN MY OPINION THERE IS NO WAY A VR6 12 V DROP IN THE 12 WHIT A 50-75 SHOT 13 MAYBE

[10silverbullet]

GOING TO THE TRACK TOMORROW! ill show picture and video ! for you guys !

[10silverbullet]

I have seen a stock motor plus 200 shot dyno. Made 350whp spot on. Fuel/timing controlled by Megasquirt. Unfortunately, it ended up eating a ringland before it could hit the track.

BROKE A RING LAND this is bad! but dont think NOS is bad for a motor! its actualy better than a turbo! but you always have to fill the bottle and make sure the pressure is always right on!! whitch for me is 1050+/- 50psi IF THE GUY HAD A GOOD TIMMING CURVE AND COLDER PLUG = NO PROBLEM!!! even whit a progressive controller the guy could have push it to 500whp!!!!!!! its just motor science ! (HONNESTLY FORGED PISTON IS A MUST) DETONNATION = BROKEN RINGLAND

[need_a_VR6]

I ran 12s with a 0 shot so a serious car should run 11s.

The person whom I speak of went high 12s full weight on a street tire at a smaller hit too.

There isnt much room for error in the 350-400 range on an old, tired, stick motor. Sure 500whp could be done but that is getting serious with a nitrous specific motor setup.

[wolfens_golf]

I've seen 75 dry shot setups, but can't speak for longevity because I don't know. Personally I'd stick to 50 dry.

Since chips advance timing, I'd run a stock chip with a larger shot. GIAC is pretty aggressive I think... log a run with vagcom and see how much timing it pulls with a stock chip. If it doesn't pull any, try with a chip and log it too.

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thank you sir