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Thread: **DIY - NON Sag Badgeless Grill"E"**

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    11-07-2005 09:41 PM #1
    I saw a post earlier about an idea to solve the dreaded sagging grille dilemma. Well I had done this work over the summer using 2 stock grilles and I can guarantee it will never sag. Here is a good DIY for anyone who has experience with fillers.

    Materials needed.

    - Dremmel
    -2 stock grilles - both from the same car (ie. 2 jettas or 2 golfs)
    -Lord Fusor 143
    -Lord Fusor 602 (adhesion promoter, is a must)
    -Lightweight filler of your choice
    -Paint (the rattle cans from perf. cafe would work great for a color match)
    -Bumper and hood notch fillers

    Fusor products needed are the following..
    Fus 143 and Fus 602 are the materials you need. You will need the Fus 513 caulk gun conversion kit and the mixing tips are Fus 400.

    http://www.autobodydepot.net/s...s=6L1

    Fusor products used..


    COST
    Used grille $40
    Fusor products $35
    Filler $12
    Flat Black Paint $3
    TOTAL COST $90

    On with the process....

    1) First step is to remove the VW emblem and remove the colored "grille" piece from the backer.

    Colored "grilles" removed from the backer.

    2) Take the backer piece and begin to cut out the round center area where the VW was.

    Black backer piece.

    Center round piece cut out.... This piece will be the backer for your new grille.

    3) Use the backer off the "donor" grille and cut off the area circled in red... This will be the KEY to the non sag support!

    4) Take this piece and place it up to the new backer piece and trace the "notch" shape so you can trim for a nice fit... Also trim the horizontal bars to fit in the void.. **be sure to leave some room so the pieces are not jammed in there**

    5) Trim the marking and test fit the piece..I used ductape to hold the pieces together for mock-up.

    This picture shows the whole backer piece of the new grille, the vertical support (red arrow) is the key to this grille never sagging.

    6) Now use the fusor to bond these pieces together. Make sure they are level and flush! When the fusor is set up sand clean.

    7) Once the backer piece is finished you can start on the "grille" part. Same idea as the backer piece.. Remove the round VW area off the new grille. Use pieces off the "donor" grille to fill the space.

    Use the fusor again to bond the pieces together.

    Once sanded use the lightweight filler to smooth out. Prime, paint, and install. Don't forget to paint the notch fillers!!

    Finished result..

    Modified by Royale5 at 9:50 PM 12-1-2007


    Modified by Royale5 at 9:57 PM 12-1-2007


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    11-07-2005 09:44 PM #2
    a little ghetto, but nonetheless great diy

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    11-07-2005 09:45 PM #3
    Quote, originally posted by VDUBRACER187 »
    a little ghetto, but nonetheless great diy

    Thanks but I really don't see how its ghetto, it works and looks 100x better than any badgeless grille out there.


  4. 11-07-2005 09:47 PM #4
    A lot of work for a part that you can now get for between $50-70 used but props for a nice job.

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    11-07-2005 09:47 PM #5
    now that i see the pic of it on your car i take that back...

  6. 11-07-2005 09:49 PM #6
    omg, wow, if i decided to go badgeless and not sell the JOM i was supposed to get in the mail 2 weeks ago ( -> DubStop) oh well, i guess if i dont sell it and the JOM sags to my disliking ill try this... wonder how much a stock grill could go for in a junkyard somewhere


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  9. 11-07-2005 09:51 PM #9
    nice job! def. impressive

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    11-07-2005 09:51 PM #10
    Quote, originally posted by Royale5 »

    Thanks but I really don't see how its ghetto, it works and looks 100x better than any badgeless grille out there.

    Not ghetto in the least bit. I don't know what that idiot is talking about. Sagging grilles look so retarded. It's great to see that you've come up with a solution to them. Great job on the DIY.

    How much did everything cost you? This is probably a little cheaper than buying an aftermarket one that does sag.


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    11-07-2005 09:57 PM #11
    VERY NICE DIY!
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    11-07-2005 09:57 PM #12
    As long as it works......... nice move mate!!!!

    would you mind showing us the dremel bit that you used to cut that grille up?


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    11-07-2005 09:59 PM #13
    Hi, where do you get the fusor?
    :snore:

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    11-07-2005 10:00 PM #14
    good thing is that people sell thier stock grills for like $30 so really your investment is only like $70

    and its 100 times better than any sagging crap you can buy


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    11-07-2005 10:08 PM #15
    sweet nice job man...

  16. 11-07-2005 10:14 PM #16
    oh man, nice work

  17. 11-07-2005 10:18 PM #17
    came out real nice

  18. 11-07-2005 10:18 PM #18
    looks awsome

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    11-07-2005 11:02 PM #19
    nice, gonna show this to my cousin
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    11-07-2005 11:06 PM #20
    sweet work on the bumper also (lower grille )

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    11-07-2005 11:16 PM #21
    not my style

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    11-07-2005 11:17 PM #22
    Nice job

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    11-07-2005 11:20 PM #23
    Quote, originally posted by bhb399mm »
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    they made you a mod?


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    11-07-2005 11:22 PM #24
    Quote, originally posted by Chacolla »

    they made you a mod?


    yeah because it works.

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    11-07-2005 11:31 PM #25
    looks good

  26. 11-07-2005 11:54 PM #26
    Awsome job bud!

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    11-08-2005 12:22 AM #27
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    11-08-2005 12:26 AM #28
    what are you people bitching about? this is a great diy, looks as good as any other aftermarket piece and like he said, no sagging.


  29. 11-08-2005 01:17 AM #29
    wow amazing

  30. 11-08-2005 01:18 AM #30
    that is plain awesome! great DIY!


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    11-08-2005 01:20 AM #31
    thats a nice bit of work there. props man. it came out nice. a little to intricate for me but def. nice work

  32. 11-08-2005 01:21 AM #32
    great write up

  33. 11-08-2005 02:17 AM #33
    Quote, originally posted by vrsixt9 »
    not my style

    im guessing sagging is your style
    not quite sure how a nonsagging grill is not your style but o well

    to royale:
    wow great write up!! like ^^ a little intricate for me, which i had the skills to do it, will you be selling these or is this a one time only thing?


  34. 11-08-2005 02:30 AM #34



    Modified by staggered mk4 at 3:24 AM 11-8-2005

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    11-08-2005 02:41 AM #35
    Quote, originally posted by 1goodguy »
    or you can just buy a bonrath grill for less than a hundred bucks??

    or better yet, don't threadjack. It's disrespectful. I'm asking nicely.

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