DIY: LED taillight install in Euro mode

[StlJetta]

Long Code:

14 05 8E 23 40 04 15 00 07 14 00 00 00 14 00 00 00 08 73 0B 5C 00 00

Need to recode for Ambers, Rear Fog and Cold Diagnostics off except for the rear fog.

Follow up. Tried this myself but need to confirm:

14 05 8E 27 40 00 15 00 07 0A 00 00 0F 00 00 00 00 08 69 03 5C 00 00

Thanks for any help. (I'll email Tim also)


Modified by StlJetta at 1:42 PM 2-15-2009

[zonehawk]

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[joeyvdubGLI]

2 defective tails???...did they do anything at all before (Cadbury99)?

Or could this be something that was cause when performing the DIY? (Tim)

[joeyvdubGLI]

After a little bit of this: and this: I finally got everything working perfect, switched from Passat mode (with ecs harness) to Amber mode, so now I'm

[mreuro]

Quote, originally posted by joeyvdubGLI »

After a little bit of this: and this: I finally got everything working perfect, switched from Passat mode (with ecs harness) to Amber mode, so now I'm

congrats and welcome to the amber club

[joeyvdubGLI]

same here, check out the new Sig...

[joeyvdubGLI]

thanks!

[Tim Birney]

Quote, originally posted by StlJetta »

Long Code: 14 05 8E 23 40 04 15 00 07 14 00 00 00 14 00 00 00 08 73 0B 5C 00 00 Need to recode for Ambers, Rear Fog and Cold Diagnostics off except for the rear fog. Follow up. Tried this myself but need to confirm: 14 05 8E 27 40 00 15 00 07 0A 00 00 0F 00 00 00 00 08 69 03 5C 00 00 Thanks for any help. (I'll email Tim also) Modified by StlJetta at 1:42 PM 2-15-2009

This is more in the line of correct...

14 05 8E 27 40 00 15 00 07 0A 00 00 0F 00 00 00 00 08 59 03 5C 00 00

[4string]

will this mod work on an Eos?

[silverA4quattro]

Quote, originally posted by 4string »

will this mod work on an Eos?

With European lights?

You can get European tails and they are plug and play most likely, like a Passat. And they'll blink amber!

[4string]

I have a customer at my shop who is taking his Eos to Sweden and needs to have Amber rear turn signals. just wondering if there is any way to make the rear LEDs flash amber by altering the coding. If not, anyone have a solution?

[Tim Birney]

Odds are that the U.S. EOS tail lights are similar to the U.S. B6 Passat.
The outer ring of LEDs will only have one tiny DOT that lights up in RED only.
Dual color Tails will have two tiny DOTs in the outer ring (Leds) that light up in RED, and Amber for the turn signal.

P.S.
If the car is headed for Europe, you may have to install a Rear Fog Light also.

Check with TMTuning on the availability of European EOS Tail Lights.

http://www.tmtuning.com/vw/

You should call them and verify that they have Amber Turn Signals, and if they are plug and play (The U.S. B6 Passat is plug and play, all of the wiring remains as from the factory, and there are no code changes required). The Rear Fog should be the same as the B6, and Jetta, so check out that DIY in your spare time.

If you can post up the Central Electronics coding, it would help out.

Modified by Tim Birney at 10:23 AM 7-16-2009

[JetTurbo]

Quote, originally posted by 4string »

I have a customer at my shop who is taking his Eos to Sweden and needs to have Amber rear turn signals. just wondering if there is any way to make the rear LEDs flash amber by altering the coding. If not, anyone have a solution?

You might have better luck asking that in the Volkswagen Eos Forum

while it is against my religon to tell you to search ,
if you did search the archive of the Eos Forum you would find this post on your topic -

Re: Rear TailLight Question... (PanEuropean)

Quote, originally posted by PanEuropean (Moderator) Victoria, BC / Zurich, Switzerland - 9:43 PM 12-27-2006 - Volkswagen Eos Forum - Re: Rear TailLight Question... »

FWIW, the European lights use an amber colour for the rear turn signals, and I think that the brake light illumination level remains the same when the turn signal is active. There are considerable differences between front and rear turn signal behaviours between ROW and North America - not just on VWs, but on many vehicle types - even my motorcycle. Michael

Might I suggest you revive that thread with your question in a more appropriate venue and closer to 'on topic'?

[silverA4quattro]

Quote, originally posted by 4string »

I have a customer at my shop who is taking his Eos to Sweden and needs to have Amber rear turn signals. just wondering if there is any way to make the rear LEDs flash amber by altering the coding. If not, anyone have a solution?

I'll mirror what Tim said: He'll likely need new, ECE spec rear lamps. Since they're both 3C chassis cars I'd wager they're almost the same from a lighting standpoint.

On a positive note, that is all that needs to be done. It's plug/play from there.

[motherFNbrandon]

Quote, originally posted by StlJetta »

Long Code: 14 05 8E 23 40 04 15 00 07 14 00 00 00 14 00 00 00 08 73 0B 5C 00 00 Need to recode for Ambers, Rear Fog and Cold Diagnostics off except for the rear fog. Follow up. Tried this myself but need to confirm: 14 05 8E 27 40 00 15 00 07 0A 00 00 0F 00 00 00 00 08 69 03 5C 00 00 Thanks for any help. (I'll email Tim also)

Quote, originally posted by Tim Birney »

This is more in the line of correct... 14 05 8E 27 40 00 15 00 07 0A 00 00 0F 00 00 00 00 08 59 03 5C 00 00

Tim, in reference to StlJetta's code and post #7 in this thread by you, shouldn't
BYTE 04, BIT 6 set to = "0" make it
14 05 8E 27 00 04 15 instead of
14 05 8E 27 40 00 15 ?
From what I can see.. the changes made to StlJetta's code is
BYTE 05, BIT 2 set to = "0"
Is this just a tiny mistake or have I overlooked something in the thread?

Thanks, appreciate the help very much,
Brandon.

Modified by motherFNbrandon at 11:15 AM 7-21-2009


Modified by motherFNbrandon at 11:15 AM 7-21-2009

[Tim Birney]

You did catch one mistake.
Keep in mind that BYTES count from the left, starting with BYTE 00.

The Original question was coding for the tails and the Rear Fog.

So BYTE 03 which is HEX 27 is correct

HEX 27 is Binary 0010 0111
Bits count from right to left, starting with BIT 0
BIT 1 set to = 1 gives you one (1) Rear Fog
BIT 2 set to = 1 gives you one (1) Backup Light

BYTE 04 was HEX 40, or BINARY 0100 0000
BIT 6 set to = 1 Disables the Rear fog, seting this BIT to = 0 enables the rear fog, and the reultant HEX is 00, Binary 0000 0000.


Modified by Tim Birney at 10:20 AM 7-23-2009

[Tim Birney]

Quote, originally posted by Tim Birney »

This is more in the line of correct... 14 05 8E 27 40 00 15 00 07 0A 00 00 0F 00 00 00 00 08 59 03 5C 00 00

Quote, originally posted by Tim Birney »

This is more in the line of correct... 14 05 8E 27 00 04 15 00 07 0A 00 00 0F 00 00 00 00 08 59 03 5C 00 00

BYTE 05 HEX 04 Headlight Washer Delay

My bad...


Modified by Tim Birney at 10:22 AM 7-23-2009

[motherFNbrandon]

Quote, originally posted by Tim Birney »

You did catch one mistake. Keep in mind that BYTES count from the left, starting with BYTE 00. The Original question was coding for the tails and the Rear Fog. So BYTE 03 which is HEX 27 is correct HEX 27 is Binary 0010 0111 Bits count from right to left, starting with BIT 0 BIT 1 set to = 1 gives you one (1) Rear Fog BIT 2 set to = 1 gives you one (1) Backup Light BYTE 04 was HEX 40, or BINARY 0100 0000 BIT 6 set to = 1 Disables the Rear fog, seting this BIT to = 0 enables the rear fog, and the reultant HEX is 00, Binary 0000 0000. Modified by Tim Birney at 10:20 AM 7-23-2009

This man is so on point.

[rix337]

Quote, originally posted by motherFNbrandon »

This man is so on point.

He is THE MAN.

[fco_cantu]

Quote, originally posted by Tim Birney »

b1rney at att dot net I will send you the basic programming for the tails. (send your original Long Code along, and specify if you want the rear fog, or no rear fog) Generic AMBER Coding, Central Electronics Controller, BYTES 09 through 13 U.S Code in HEX: 14 00 00 00 14 AMBER Code in HEX: 0A 00 00 0F 00 HEX 0A = 0000 1010 binary HEX 0F = 0000 1111 binary Refinements: BYTE 18, BIT 1 set to = "0" (uncheck the BIT in the Long Code Helper) BYTE 18, BIT 5 set to = "0" BYTE 19, BIT(s) 2 & 3 set to = "0" Rear Fog? BYTE 03, BIT(s) 1 & 2 set to = "1" (check the BITs in the long Code Helper) BYTE 18, BIT 3 set to = "1" BYTE 04, BIT 6 set to = "0" Bonus BYTE/BIT: BYTE 17, BIT 0 set to = "1" (emergency braking, flash the Tail Lights) BYTE(s) 18/19 contain BITs relating to Cold Diagnostics that are not required on the LED Tails, except BIT 3 which is the BIT for the Rear Fog Diag. If you are not doing the Rear Fog, then skip what I posted concerning the Rear Fog. __________________

Hello Tim,

I made the changes to my long code for just this part...

U.S Code in HEX: 14 00 00 00 14

AMBER Code in HEX: 0A 00 00 0F 00

And it seems to be working fine... my Led Tailighst doesnt have the fog light so im wondering what this refinement part does....??

Refinements:
BYTE 18, BIT 1 set to = "0" (uncheck the BIT in the Long Code Helper)
BYTE 18, BIT 5 set to = "0"
BYTE 19, BIT(s) 2 & 3 set to = "0"

And also do i need to change anything else to this Led Tailights work correct?

[Tim Birney]

Quote, originally posted by fco_cantu »

Hello Tim, I made the changes to my long code for just this part... U.S Code in HEX: 14 00 00 00 14 AMBER Code in HEX: 0A 00 00 0F 00 And it seems to be working fine... my Led Tailighst doesnt have the fog light so im wondering what this refinement part does....?? Refinements: BYTE 18, BIT 1 set to = "0" (uncheck the BIT in the Long Code Helper) BYTE 18, BIT 5 set to = "0" BYTE 19, BIT(s) 2 & 3 set to = "0" And also do i need to change anything else to this Led Tailights work correct?

The changes to BYTE 18, and 19 are to disable cold Diagnostics.
These Code changes were taken from a German MKV Jetta, and they are the same on the U.S. Passat.

Cold Diagnostic pulses will mess up the LED Tails over a period of time, so the longevity of your LED Tails is at stake.
Please apply BYTE 18, and BYTE 19 changes as soon as you can.

[fco_cantu]

Excellent Explanation... I will change those Bytes as soon as I can...

[KRuGAH]

i installed my oem led taillights earlier this week and they work just fine. but i am getting a bulb out warnig on my mfd for the left rear reverse which is now my rear fog. how do i disable this message

[Tim Birney]

You will clear all DTC faults with your Vag-Com.

[Trbnium 2K1]

I'm about ready to install the LED taillights in my 2006 GLI (Got the Dark Cherry Version from Hella) and need some help with the coding. Here is my current long code:

17078E234004180000140000001400000028770B5C

Thanks!

Brian

[Tim Birney]

Quote, originally posted by Trbnium 2K1 »

I'm about ready to install the LED taillights in my 2006 GLI (Got the Dark Cherry Version from Hella) and need some help with the coding. Here is my current long code: 17078E234004180000140000001400000028770B5C Thanks! Brian

Your coding as posted:

17 07 8E 23 40 04 18 00 00 14 00 00 00 14 00 00 00 28 77 0B 5C

Amber Coding, no Rear Fog, including the deletion of Cold Diagnostics.

17 07 8E 23 40 04 18 00 00 0A 00 00 0F 00 00 00 00 28 55 03 5C

With the Rear Fog:

17 07 8E 27 00 04 18 00 00 0A 00 00 0F 00 00 00 00 28 5D 03 5C

[Trbnium 2K1]

Tim,

That worked like a charm, Thanks! I'm now a proud member of Club AMBER! The only issue I ran into was with the rear fog... No problem with the coding, just that I started counting the B-harness plug from the wrong side and was initially in PIN3 instead of PIN4...

[Tim Birney]

Another one joins the CLUB!

[mobiledaveb]

Hey Tim! Great to see you still rocking the Amber LED club!

[DrFraserCrane]

I did this a few weeks ago (maybe like 6-8), just wanted to give props to Tim for his work, went off flawlessly. have been too lazy to activate the rear fog, but I did turn it off so that i only have the reverse light on when backing.

cliffs notes: great thread, worked wonders

[Tim Birney]

Quote, originally posted by mobiledaveb »

Hey Tim! Great to see you still rocking the Amber LED club!

I've also been busy with (local) hands on conversion to LED Tails, and, believe it or not, reversions from LED to Stock...

Not to mention a B6 Passat shipping to the U.K. and installing the Rear Fog on the "Wrong" side.

[mobiledaveb]

You are the tail light god!

Sounds like you are having fun. My TDI is still as fun and fantastic as the day I bought it (67,000 miles ago). My 17 year old drives it most of the time now. He's become a fellow TDI fanatic like his father and takes great care of it.

I've been pre-occupied lately with the latest addition - a B7 A4 Avant. Something to hold me over until the A3 TDIs start arriving.

Still tinkering with the Jetta though. Just converted the fogs to yellow bulbs and now kicking around the S5 LED running light mod for it.

Cheers!

Quote, originally posted by Tim Birney »

I've also been busy with (local) hands on conversion to LED Tails, and, believe it or not, reversions from LED to Stock... Not to mention a B6 Passat shipping to the U.K. and installing the Rear Fog on the "Wrong" side.

[Tim Birney]

17 year old Son?

Heck My Grand Daughter is 9 years old...

Piker!

Without you, and Chris, and quite a few other people that I cannot remember (quite a lot of us) we would still be rocking Stock Tails.



Modified by Tim Birney at 7:46 PM 10-15-2009

[mobiledaveb]

"Piker!" ha ha

I think doing the fog light mod and figuring out the tail light thing with you and Chris was the best Jetta adventure yet. I did complete the GLI front spoiler and rear valance like you though. Really sets the car apart from the rest of the TDI crowd.

Quote, originally posted by Tim Birney »

17 year old Son? Heck My Grand Daughter is 9 years old... Piker! Without you, and Chris, and quite a few other people that I cannot remember (quite a lot of us) we would still be rocking Stock Tails. Modified by Tim Birney at 7:46 PM 10-15-2009

[2010Nate]

I have 2010 Jetta, here is my coding:

Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels: 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 937 085 C HW: 5K0 937 085 C
Component: BCM PQ35 B++ 008 0019
Revision: BI008001
Coding: 6D200B1E902F3EE4800800054000000001000086510085605C 8020000000
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000

Has anyone installed LED tails on a 2010?