Official: New York Yankees Thread

[g60rabbit]

I don't count Tex.....as soon as the ink dried on his contract that .280-.300 hitter disappeared.

It didnt disapear. It was slowly sucked out of him. I think the short porch has RUINED him.

First year as a Yankee, followed by the decline

.292 .383 .565 .948
.256 .356 .481 .846
.248 .341 .494 .835
.222 .271 .380 .651

For comparison 40 year old Ibanez

.254 .308 .437 .744

Age isnt the issure. Mark does 1 of 3 things every at. Strikes out at a ball in the dirt, lazy pop fly, bomb.

[GS Audio]

It didnt disapear. It was slowly sucked out of him. I think the short porch has RUINED him.

First year as a Yankee, followed by the decline

.292 .383 .565 .948
.256 .356 .481 .846
.248 .341 .494 .835
.222 .271 .380 .651

For comparison 40 year old Ibanez

.254 .308 .437 .744

Age isnt the issure. Mark does 1 of 3 things every at. Strikes out at a ball in the dirt, lazy pop fly, bomb.

Close enough.

I'd prefer to see the 1st yr and prior Tex though......that guy still hit bombs, but also could hit for avg.

[g60rabbit]

Close enough.

I'd prefer to see the 1st yr and prior Tex though......that guy still hit bombs, but also could hit for avg.

Agreed. This Teix is painfull to watch.

I expect the Yankees to be in the mix and [probably win the east or WC] however these other teams in the east have built some pretty damn good teams while the power houses of the East and their HUGE payrolls have stumbled a bit.

[GS Audio]

I expect the Yankees to be in the mix and [probably win the east or WC] however these other teams in the east have built some pretty damn good teams while the power houses of the East and their HUGE payrolls have stumbled a bit.

I think we can slot Tampa in a a potential 1st place finisher. They've been doing this for a while now, so we aren't seeing a hot start or lucky run.

Baltimore is an intriguing team to watch. They did some comparision on ESPN about their record to start the season the last 10 years. I think it said in 2005 they were also 19-9, but ended the season under .500. The main difference in the 2005 team and 2012 team was age. I think we are seeing a legit team under Buck right now. They might not finish 1st, but I would not be surprised if they did, or possibly near the top with an above .500 season.

[g60rabbit]

I think we can slot Tampa in a a potential 1st place finisher. They've been doing this for a while now, so we aren't seeing a hot start or lucky run.
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Tampa has the potential. But really they werent even good enough to be a playoff team last year. they limped through August and were lucky enough to play a team that had nothing to play for in the end. If Not for the Sox historic September they would have been home.

They have the pitching. And they might even be a better playoff team then the Yankees. But if the Yankee offense reaches their potential they are a better regular season team that can beat up on mediocre pitching.

Same with the O's. Can they do it? I think so. But depth with those teams is an issue. If the Yankees lose say Arod they still have a 40 homer guy in their lineup in Granderson ect. The Yankees lose Mo and Robertson has been their best reliver for a year or 2 anyway.

Lets see how those teams handle losing their stars for extended time

[beng]

Had to cross post...courtesy of Cooper in the RS thread

http://www.realtor.com/realestateand...6_M43018-84729

The Babe's house!

[GS Audio]

Had to cross post...courtesy of Cooper in the RS thread

http://www.realtor.com/realestateand...6_M43018-84729

The Babe's house!

Beng, that news is SO Monday......

[GS Audio]

I know we all LOVE John Sterling so much with his fancy HR calls......

WHICH one of these fabulous doosh-chill inducing calls do you "love" the most?

1) "RAUL.....SOOOOO COOL!!"
2) "Russel, the muscle"
3) "Robi Cano, DONTCHAKNOW!!!!"
4) "The Grandy Man can..."
5) "An A-BOMB, from AROD!"
6) "A Text Message from Texiera"
7) Whatever he says for Andruw Jones....something about "with the Jones'".....

I personally have a 3-way tie for Raul, Russel, and Grandy.

Vortex needs to add the "vomit" emoticon.....2 per Sterling call.

[g60rabbit]

As far as stupidity goes I vote "A-Bomb for Arod"...Because on Japanese television they bleep it out everytime Sterling says it.

[beng]

Lmfao! I never connected the dots on that one.

Montero update: hes better, offensively, than all but maybe 3 Yanks right now. At least I think.

[rlsib16]

Lmfao! I never connected the dots on that one.

Montero update: hes better, offensively, than all but maybe 3 Yanks right now. At least I think.

hes about a league average hitter. i think what you said has more to do with the Yankee hitters being in slumps, than Montero. he's gonna have to work on his 22/3 K/BB ratio which was always one of his problems in the minors. probably his only offensive problem really.

[g60rabbit]

We can all agree that we need to DH spot open for the old farts??

For this year, right now.

Montero 4 homers .289OBP .431Slugging .721OPS
Martin 3 Homers .319OBP .329 Slugging .650OPS

So Jesus has 1 more homer in about 30 more AB.

Seattle is terrible and they arent even playing him 50% of the time as a catcher.

He is better then some of the hitters. Higher OPS then say Cano or Teix. But that doesnt matter. He isnt taking either of their jobs.

[Vision33r]

Without Rivera, it's gonna be a long season for the Yanks. I expect a lot of blown saves and probably the Yanks would need to trade or acquire another closer. Hopefully Andy can add some solid pitching into the rotation.

[rlsib16]

"Without Wetteland, it's gonna be a long season for the Yanks. I expect a lot of blown saves and probably the Yanks would need to trade or acquire another closer"
-you and other fans in May 1997.

Mo blew 2 saves and got a loss in the first 2 weeks of him being the closer. let's not rush to judgement off one game with Robertson. he'll go through some pains as he adjust to the role but he'll be fine.

[g60rabbit]

The lose of Rivera will have very little effect on the regular season because the pen is good enough to get it done.

That "ice in the veins" guy in the postseason is when he will be missed.

[g60rabbit]

Taking 2-3 against Tampa is nice even though it should have been an easy sweep.

I admit my "dislike" of Teix is getting the better of me. The first thing I do when I check a box score is scroll down to his name and see how many hits he didnt get

[ed rooney]

I think tex has ruined himself trying to hit HRS in Yankee Stadium, lets face it though he was a classic Boras hype driven player no way he should have broke 200 million. Sure he hits HRs and drives in runs but for that $$$ you have to hit for a decent average too.

Another thing that has occured to me are we seeing true number that may have been PED aided even a few years ago. And its not just Tex , Youk raises some PED doubt in my mind he has fallen off a cliff. A lot of players seem to be losing bat speed and MPH off the fastball this year and last.

How would you like to be the Angels and Pujols locked in for an eternity. He seems to have lost his fountain of youth as well

[g60rabbit]

How would you like to be the Angels and Pujols locked in for an eternity. He seems to have lost his fountain of youth as well

Wasnt he coming off a wrist injury last year?

Its amazing to me that these contracts are still given out.

I thought teams might learn from the Arod deals of the world. But no guys like Puljos and Crawford get HUGE money. Its nuts.

I want a cap atleats if someone gets hurt and is on a more reasonable contract he will be easier to replace. Maybe teams will have better depth. Hell I think they need to ditch a handfull of teams with how watered down pitching is.

4 and 5 starters an on many many teams the 3rd starter is league average at best. So whats that 90 starting pitchers in MLb are average at best?

[GS Audio]

10:45 AM and not even 1 Andy comment yet? Where is everyone....

I think it was a decent start. 1st start in over 18 months, so I think it went well.

[Adam@CheckeredFlagVW]

[beng]

Nova with a twisted ankle and Drob going for an MRI

If not for playing the Yankees the Os would be like 12 games over 500

[GS Audio]

Nice to see the jurors find this trial as interesting as the rest of us.....

Roger Clemens juror falls asleep

Updated: May 15, 2012, 12:34 PM ET
ESPN.com news services

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A second juror was dismissed today in the Roger Clemens trial for falling asleep during the trial. The dismissed juror, from Seat 1, was replaced by the juror in Seat 7, who had been the first alternate.
Here's a closer look at the eight-female, four-male jury, which will decide whether Clemens lied to Congress when he denied using performance-enhancing drugs.
The biographical information comes from public statements by the jurors themselves during jury selection:
• Seat 2: Female. Plays golf. Not a baseball fan, but watches golf, tennis and the Super Bowl. Recently retired. Has worked at an association for psychologists and as an elementary school teacher.
• Seat 3: Female. Program analyst with District of Columbia Department of Human Services since 2000. Took pre-law classes and considered going to law school. Never heard of Clemens and doesn't follow sports. Loves to read and bake.
• Seat 4: Female. Occupational therapist. Attended two baseball games in her life, both in Washington -- one at old Griffith Stadium and one at Nationals Park. Not a baseball fan.
• Seat 5: Male. Studied engineering and bioengineering at the University of Pennsylvania. Hockey fan. Likes long-distance running and working out. Knows a lot of people who took performance-enhancing drugs, but says PEDs were not for him. Thought 2008 congressional hearings on steroids were "excessive."
• Seat 6: Female. Curatorial researcher at the Smithsonian, not a sports fan. On 2008 congressional hearings on steroids, she said, "At the time, I felt maybe that was not the best use of Congress' time when they have so many other things to deal with."
• Seat 7: Male. Heard of Clemens but said he couldn't identify what position he played. Testified before Congress several times, most recently on cyber legislation, representing financial sector. Now an official at the U.S. Treasury Department. Went to Yale School of Management.
• Seat 8: Female. Teaches deaf and hard of hearing, from Buffalo. Likes photography and fabric art. Not a sports fan, doesn't know Clemens.
• Seat 9: Male. Works as administrative assistant at Canadian Embassy (next door to the courthouse). Worked at life insurance company. Was a pre-med student at Howard University. Speaks French and Spanish. Not a baseball fan. Asked about Clemens' 2008 congressional testimony, said Clemens "seemed forthright."
• Seat 12: Male. Retired. Grew up in Germany, moved to U.S. at the age of 15 in 1946, which would make him about 80 years old. Taught political science at University of Massachusetts-Amherst for 25 years. Also taught at Smith. Didn't recognize Clemens' name; only sport he follows is soccer.
• Seat 13: Female. Retiree. Active in effort to get voting rights for District of Columbia. Worked at U.S. Department of Transportation and Bureau of Public Debt. Said her husband told her, upon learning she might serve on this trial, "Get out of it, don't do it!" eliciting chuckle from Clemens.
• Seat 14: Female. Environmental lawyer. Ran cross country and track in high school. Doesn't follow sports. Knew Clemens as a "well-regarded pitcher," but "didn't know he was connected to steroids."
• Seat 16: Female. Works in law enforcement with the Washington Metropolitan Area Transit Authority. Calls herself a "sharpshooter." When not working, sleeps and cooks a lot. Not a sports fan, and hadn't heard of Clemens.
Alternates:
• Seat 10: Female. Goes to one baseball game a year. Not a sports fan. Works at American Council on Education as librarian and in continuing education. Likes classical music, cooking vegetarian food and "light philosophy." Not a sports fan.
• Seat 15: Male. Says he grew up in River Edge, N.J., down the street from a house rented by New York Yankees stars Mickey Mantle and Roger Maris. Been going to gym since 1975. Knows people who use steroids. Calls it a "pretty stupid thing to do." Avid cyclist. Works as senior program analyst for Nuclear Regulatory Commission. Studied docket of Clemens case.

[beng]

Seat 6: Female. Curatorial researcher at the Smithsonian, not a sports fan. On 2008 congressional hearings on steroids, she said, "At the time, I felt maybe that was not the best use of Congress' time when they have so many other things to deal with."


Im no legal expert but this strikes me as a conflict of interest

[GS Audio]

Are the Orioles for real? Can we take their record serious? The beat CC last night.....can we believe this is legit now?

[tbvvw]

Are the Orioles for real? Can we take their record serious? The beat CC last night.....can we believe this is legit now?

As an O's fan for over 40 yrs, all I can say is "I hope so". But ask again at the 100 game mark. And fwiw, last night was the first time in over 5 yrs I have watched more than 3 innings of an O's game. If Buck continues to allow them to install confidence in themselves...they can have an interesting year.

[g60rabbit]

Are the Orioles for real? Can we take their record serious? The beat CC last night.....can we believe this is legit now?

Its not the first time they have ever beat CC...so no..still to early

The baseball season is a damn snooze fest..can we fast foward to the all star break already

[vdubbed81]

No comments on Andy's last outing???

[g60rabbit]

No comments on Andy's last outing???

Great start for him.

But its pretty insane that that start by Andy was the best start by any Yankee pitcher this year and that was only his 2nd start since 2010.

[beng]

This team is genuinely mediocre. Lots of injuries, obviously... and guys playing hurt (what the hell is going on with Tex??)... the idea that there is an extra playoff spot this year, may help us keep hope alive... but Im not feeling very optimistic about this team.

[g60rabbit]

This team is genuinely mediocre. Lots of injuries, obviously... and guys playing hurt (what the hell is going on with Tex??)... the idea that there is an extra playoff spot this year, may help us keep hope alive... but Im not feeling very optimistic about this team.

Im not optomistic about the futur thats for sure.

I dont even need to look past the suck on the infield in Arod and Teix.

[beng]

They seemed to get very old, very fast. ...and Tex... that may turn out to be as bad a contract as Arods. Its crazy. The curse of Donnie Baseball.

Banuelos was shut down in the minors with a sore elbow too

Usually, when a team is in a funk like this.. the management looks to add a few youngsters to the mix... problem is... Banuelos is the most ML ready... and it seems this team really needs a position player that can be called up and make an impact. There really isnt anyone ready in the system. They need to put Stick Michael back in charge of player selection and development... I think Cashman has done an admirable job in the FA market when bargain shopping... but I dont think he's a very good talent evaluator at the amateur level... nor are the people around him.

[g60rabbit]

They seemed to get very old, very fast. ...and Tex... that may turn out to be as bad a contract as Arods. Its crazy. The curse of Donnie Baseball.

Luckily for Teix he seems like a pretty nice guy, stays out of the tabliods ect so he will never get the heat Arod gets. But he doesnt come close to helping the team win like Arod has done in the past.

Batting .249 since opeing day 2010.

I am usually pretty even keeled [sp] but to me this year just feels different.

I wont go as far as to say the year is over because its not..far from it.

But Ibanez at 39 just cant have as many homers as Arod and Teix combine.

Pettitte gets 2 starts one of them the best the Yankees have had all season


They have injuries blah blah blah

But every time I turn the TV on they have at minimum 1 man on base with the heart of the order coming up and I can say/predict out loud how each guy will make an out and that they wont score any runs, and I am usually right.

Or its the 2 or 3rd inning and they are already down by atleast 1 run.

[rlsib16]

they're just playing ****ty baseball right now. they're not all of a sudden old, its just a lack of results for the entire team at once. guys go through slumps all season, it seems to have hit the team at once right now. they're like 6 for their last 70 with RISP, can't compete like that. hopefully its just a funk and they can work their way out of it.

the Yankees haven't really haven't had any position players you would define as "impact" that until the 2nd half of last year when they considered Montero ready. the Yanks farm system right now is stacked at the lower levels so it'll be a couple of years until those guys can possibly make a difference. the upper levels do have depth stashed away and it has been used already this year (Phelps, Mitchell, Nix, Wise, Eppley) its just up to the ML guys to turn it around.

and im pretty sure Michaels still works for the team as an advisor so his input is there. Cashman and the org have done a complete 180 on how they drafted and developed compared to the start of the 2000's. sure they haven't had a Jeter or Mo come out of the system but thats 1 in a million. maybe the high level stars aren't there (at least from the draft) but they've put a good amount of useful players on the ML roster and unfortunately, other team's rosters.

[g60rabbit]

they're just playing ****ty baseball right now. they're not all of a sudden old.

No its not all of the sudden. I think Marks OBP,AVG,SG and OPS have all ben an a decline since 2009. Arod as well?? [Numbers not infront of me]

In 2009 corner infielders like Arod and Teix were a huge advantage the Yankees had.

Of qualifying 3rd baseman with atleats 150 AT Arod is about 5th or 6th in most categories. Guy has 20 less RBI the Cabrera.

[g60rabbit]

Hughes actually looks like a starter again his last 2-3 times out. But I think all 3 starts were against bad offenses? Whatever it takes to get his confidence up.