Official: New York Yankees Thread

[g60rabbit]

I am not that worried about them missing the postseason as much as I am about whats going to happen to this one very dimensional offense against postseason pitching.

On a positive note.

Jeter=Beast

Guys batting like 400 this month

OPS over 1

[beng]

Jeter may end up having one of his best seasons if he keeps this up. Maybe top 3.

Granderson is sinking further into the abyss. 236 avg?? Bad loss last night. Soriano has been so good though... he was due. Sucks because the division is getting tighter but so are all of the AL standing.

Tex... out 1-2 weeks???

Holy crap

Here your injury list for 2012:
Mo - Torn ACL (done for year)
Brett Gardner - Shoulder (done for year)
Joba - Dislocated Ankle (Out 4 months)
Drob - Oblique (Out 6 weeks)
Pineda - Torn Labrum (done for year)
Pettitte - Broken Ankle (out last 2 months)
Arod - Broken Hand (out last 2 months)
Swisher - Various injuries
Tex - Strained Calf and Respiratory Issues
CC - Arm Issues (2 DL stints)

The Yankees have played 128 games. Three position players have played in more than 120 ...Jeter, Granderson and Cano

[g60rabbit]

Granderson is sinking further into the abyss. 236 avg?? Bad loss last night.

avg,obp,slg,ops all lower then career averages.

156ks and climbing.

I dont think I want him back after next year.

[beng]

The guy could be a really special player if he had some plate discipline. 21 straight games against the AL East??

[GS Audio]

Anyone have a video clip of the Jeter AB when the rookie clipped his helmet? Read a quick aricle on it, but no pics or vids.

[g60rabbit]

Nice close 4-3 game bases loaded no outs and a chance to break the game open...NOPE.

Pop up to catcher
Swisher k's hacking
Cano K's hacking

9th in AL with runners in scoring position.

But it gets better

11th out of 14 AL teams with bases juiced. They hit 215 as a team. Oakland hits 10th with a 241 avg.

[nastybags]

i will admit g60..lately they have been making your point.

so far this jays series has been sloppy

[g60rabbit]

i will admit g60..lately they have been making your point.

so far this jays series has been sloppy

They followed it up in the next inning.

Leadoff double.

Ichiro down on K's hacking
Chavez ground out to first
Jeter down hacking

Next inning Man on 2nd one out

Jones down on K's hacking
Granderson ground out to first


So in 3 innings

0-8 With Risp

5k's
2 ground outs to first
1 pop fly to catcher

Not one ball to the outfield grass

[g60rabbit]

Tying run on second in 8th no outs...0-3

The pitching stunk I get that.

but 3-17 with RISP...with a TON of chances to blow the game open or tie it.

I think I read another stat that they are the worst team in the AL scoring runs from 3rd with 2 outs.

Granderson has what 33 HR and about 70 RBI....thats hard to do lol

[nastybags]

lol another meaningless grandyman HR

[g60rabbit]

Since All Star game.

Granderson

hitting .211 with a farkin .276 OBP and his ops is down 130 points.

This is how the 2012 Yankees will be remembered.

"Man..they sure did hit alot of solo HR"

200 total HR..121 Solo shots

[g60rabbit]

sounds like crickets in here

I saw this coming even when I kept hearing "but we have the best record blah blah blah"

10 game lead gone...But hey atleast we have a 1 game lead in the WC

NFL starts tonight right

[GS Audio]

At the start of the season, I commented to my buddy (Mets fan) about how I thought this season would play out.

The 2 comments that you laughed at the most are the 2 that appear to be most accurate.....

1) Watch out for Washington.....solid shot at taking NL East.
2) I have doubts about the Yanks can take the AL East...too much competition.....Tampa and Toronto look good, Sox have an outside shot if Bobby V makes an impact his 1st season in Boston.

So, I was just about dead on with the NL East prediction.

The AL East one was in the ballpark.....I didn't think this team was gonna be horrible, but it all depended on age, injuries.....age, injuries.....the bats, AGE, INJURIES, and the starting picthing......oh, and AGE & INJURIES!!!

This team needs to take a step towards youth next year. Might be the best time to attempt this with the Sox in rebuild mode.

Can the Yanks still take the division, absolutely. Its not October yet, so plenty of time to take the lead and hold it. I just think the fumes they've been running on have finally run out......

[Vision33r]

The way things are, if they don't pick up things soon by next week. The Yanks may need a 11' Cardinals like effort at the last 2 weeks to pull through.

This and next week will make or break their season. They got the Tampa, O's, Red Sox. and Toronto in consecutive days. They need to be above .500 after these games are over or the season maybe lost.

This is now the most competitive division ever, I don't recall any time the last 30 years when you have 4 highly competitive teams stacked with talent.

[g60rabbit]

At the start of the season, I commented to my buddy (Mets fan) about how I thought this season would play out.

The 2 comments that you laughed at the most are the 2 that appear to be most accurate.....

1) Watch out for Washington.....solid shot at taking NL East.
2) I have doubts about the Yanks can take the AL East...too much competition.....Tampa and Toronto look good, Sox have an outside shot if Bobby V makes an impact his 1st season in Boston.

So, I was just about dead on with the NL East prediction.

The AL East one was in the ballpark.....I didn't think this team was gonna be horrible, but it all depended on age, injuries.....age, injuries.....the bats, AGE, INJURIES, and the starting picthing......oh, and AGE & INJURIES!!!
.

In the ball park?

Toronto is 15 games worse then it was this time last year
Boston is having its worst season since 1992 and its first losing season in 15 years.
If the postseason started today Tampa still wouldnt be in.

Age hasnt played a big issue with this yankees teams.

Their oldest pitcher is their best--Kuroda
Their 3rd best pitcher got hit with a line drive- Pettite
The worlds best closer got hurt fielding pop flys- Mo

Tiex and Arods injuries have nothing to do with age

Nova got hurt- maybe a good thing?

Robertson,Joba,CC all on DL. And the biggest of all Gardner. Because Gardner went down we had to platoon our 40 or near 40 year old outfielders to much. But they produced.

So while I cant give you age. The injuries have played a huge factor.

Having said that they have had TONS of chances to win these 1 run and 2 run games and just could not produce basehits.

Only one team in all of the american league hit worse then the Yankees with the bases loaded.

The Yankees hit 200 with the bases loaded. Tampa .375. Who the hell is on Tampa lol

[Aw614]

Only one team in all of the american league hit worse then the Yankees with the bases loaded.

The Yankees hit 200 with the bases loaded. Tampa .375. Who the hell is on Tampa lol

What!? lol, I can't believe Tampa is hitting higher with the bases loaded than NY, seems every time I watch the rays with the bases loaded and 0 or 1 out, they end up scoring no runs or the pitcher ends up striking every single hitter afterwards

[g60rabbit]

What!? lol, I can't believe Tampa is hitting higher with the bases loaded than NY, seems every time I watch the rays with the bases loaded and 0 or 1 out, they end up scoring no runs or the pitcher ends up striking every single hitter afterwards

Not only the Yankees. Tampa has the highest BA in baseball with bases loaded.

Yankees are 26th out of 30 teams..26th!!!

[GS Audio]

At the start of the season, I commented to my buddy (Mets fan) about how I thought this season would play out.

The 2 comments that you laughed at the most are the 2 that appear to be most accurate.....

1) Watch out for Washington.....solid shot at taking NL East.
2) I have doubts about the Yanks can take the AL East...too much competition.....Tampa and Toronto look good, Sox have an outside shot if Bobby V makes an impact his 1st season in Boston.

So, I was just about dead on with the NL East prediction.

The AL East one was in the ballpark.....I didn't think this team was gonna be horrible, but it all depended on age, injuries.....age, injuries.....the bats, AGE, INJURIES, and the starting picthing......oh, and AGE & INJURIES!!!

This team needs to take a step towards youth next year. Might be the best time to attempt this with the Sox in rebuild mode.

Can the Yanks still take the division, absolutely. Its not October yet, so plenty of time to take the lead and hold it. I just think the fumes they've been running on have finally run out......

In the ball park?

Toronto is 15 games worse then it was this time last year
Boston is having its worst season since 1992 and its first losing season in 15 years.
If the postseason started today Tampa still wouldnt be in.

Age hasnt played a big issue with this yankees teams.

Their oldest pitcher is their best--Kuroda
Their 3rd best pitcher got hit with a line drive- Pettite
The worlds best closer got hurt fielding pop flys- Mo

Tiex and Arods injuries have nothing to do with age

Nova got hurt- maybe a good thing?

Robertson,Joba,CC all on DL. And the biggest of all Gardner. Because Gardner went down we had to platoon our 40 or near 40 year old outfielders to much. But they produced.

So while I cant give you age. The injuries have played a huge factor.

Having said that they have had TONS of chances to win these 1 run and 2 run games and just could not produce basehits.

Only one team in all of the american league hit worse then the Yankees with the bases loaded.

The Yankees hit 200 with the bases loaded. Tampa .375. Who the hell is on Tampa lol

OK....so Toronto was the longshot.....who'd have expected them to have the issues they had.....

How do you not factor in age when discussing this team? Old guys filling in will be good for a while, sure. But come September, you can't expect to lean on them to produce.

Have the Yanks done a great job of dealing with the major loss of stars due to injury, absolutely. But even the stars are old....and you can't assume they will continue to perform at high levels.

They are back in 1st....for now.....but it will not be the least bit surprising if Tampa or Baltimore make a run this month and take the east. Can the Yanks do it, sure.....once they hit with RISP.

[g60rabbit]

How do you not factor in age when discussing this team? Old guys filling in will be good for a while, sure. But come September, you can't expect to lean on them to produce.

Because it hasnt really been a factor outside of what RF?

Losing our 29 year old outfielder to an injury was the issue.

Where else are old guys filling in?

Arod got hurt by getting hit in the hand with a pitch. Chavez has done a great job filling in.

Teix isnt a shell of himself because of age.

Granderson isnt a shell of himself because of age.

Mo,Pettitte didnt get hurt because of age.

I guess maybe Arod is hurt by his age-lack of vitamines?

[g60rabbit]

YOOOOOOOUUUUUURRRRR OUT!!!!! lol. yea link sucks but I dont care to fix it



http://www.google.com/imgres?q=teixe...r:8,s:14,i:155

[beng]

Tex getting an MRI today but the rumors are he may miss 3 weeks. So many injuries, but they're hangin in there.... and so many more games against the AL East. It hasn't been close like this in a while! I hope they can hold it together.

Maybe they could add Clemens back to the mix

[nastybags]

damn losing tex for the rest of the season really sucks his defense alone is a MAJOR lose for this team.

[GS Audio]

damn losing tex for the rest of the season really sucks his defense alone is a MAJOR lose for this team.

Wow....so who's at 1B now?

It never ends with these guys......one injury after another......

[beng]

I assumed the plan was to have Swich play first long term. ...but Im not sure. Didnt realize that the Angels are 1 game back of the Os for the SECOND wild card spot. Yanks went from a divsion winning home field playoff team... to a team in a dog fight to make the playoffs at all. I hope they can start stringing some wins together.

[g60rabbit]

At this point Teixeras bat isnt any better then Swishers or Chavez [talk about decline]. Chavez is a good 3rd baseman not sure how that will translate to 1st.

But I would start Chavez at 1st and Swish in right.

Granderson had a nice rebound game the other day and Arod has been showing some power.

They better not lie down to the Sox

[g60rabbit]

Nice way to start. 2nd and 3rd no outs. Chance to blow game open with the big bats coming up. Not a single ball hit out of the infield.

Much of the same in the 2nd. So far 0-5 risp 4 men left on

Followed up with 1 and 2 no outs and yet not another single ball hit out of infield. So after 3 they are 0-8 with risp with 6 men left on against a pitcher with an era of 5

Injury isnt the issue with this team. They just aresnt very good.

Sox lost 11 of their last 12. We send our ace to the hill, and cant get it done. Logan makes no attempt to cover first, martin fields a ball clearly going foul,nunez gets tossed out easily taking the bat possibly out of canos hands.

Oh 1-12 risp.

I have seen this team get thrown out on the base paths 4 times in 1 game. They werent even trying to steal a base. They even got caught with the fake to 3rd throw to first deal that is so ridiculous that you wont be able to make that move next year becausenobody ever gets caught with it.

Seriously what is their recordin games without hr?

[beng]

Nice way to start. 2nd and 3rd no outs. Chance to blow game open with the big bats coming up. Not a single ball hit out of the infield.

Much of the same in the 2nd. So far 0-5 risp 4 men left on

Followed up with 1 and 2 no outs and yet not another single ball hit out of infield. So after 3 they are 0-8 with risp with 6 men left on against a pitcher with an era of 5

Injury isnt the issue with this team. They just aresnt very good.

Sox lost 11 of their last 12. We send our ace to the hill, and cant get it done. Logan makes no attempt to cover first, martin fields a ball clearly going foul,nunez gets tossed out easily taking the bat possibly out of canos hands.

Oh 1-12 risp.

I have seen this team get thrown out on the base paths 4 times in 1 game. They werent even trying to steal a base. They even got caught with the fake to 3rd throw to first deal that is so ridiculous that you wont be able to make that move next year becausenobody ever gets caught with it.

Seriously what is their recordin games without hr?

I share your pain. For the first time in a while, I was able to sit and watch a whole game from beginning to end last night... They couldnt be any sloppier. I agree with you... they just arent that good. It wouldnt suprise me at all if this team falls right out of the race. I dont know what their record is when they dont hit a HR... but I do know this...for the first time in a LONG time, this team doesn't project to have a 100 RBI player. Grandy projects to 99.5 right now. Thats the closest. Can you imagine that they've hot all of these HRs, but wont have a 100RBI player??

[g60rabbit]

I share your pain. For the first time in a while, I was able to sit and watch a whole game from beginning to end last night... They couldnt be any sloppier. I agree with you... they just arent that good. It wouldnt suprise me at all if this team falls right out of the race. I dont know what their record is when they dont hit a HR... but I do know this...for the first time in a LONG time, this team doesn't project to have a 100 RBI player. Grandy projects to 99.5 right now. Thats the closest. Can you imagine that they've hot all of these HRs, but wont have a 100RBI player??

they had 3 guys last year with over 110.

2012 RISP .252--11th in the AL
2011 RISP .273--5th in the AL

Now the big one

2012 bases loaded .228--12th in the AL
2011 bases loaded .337---1st in the AL

The overall OBP difference between last year and this year is about .010.

The overall difference in HR is almost 0 [222 last year 210 this year but year isnt over]

Would this team be a few games better if it had Garnder and Mo. Sure.

But even with the team they are fielding they are getting about just as many scoring chances as they were last year they just arent converting. My main problem with this is because I believe its in their approach.

Then add to that the bad fielding at times and being lazy on the base paths.

[beng]

Heres a Mike Francessa clip that should cheer you up. (Sweenie Murti is in it so its Yankees related)

[ed rooney]

I love the look on Francesa's face when he sort of wakes up, he's like HUH? WHAT? WHATS Going on here. LOL

I for one was hoping the Sox would just roll over and die in this series. Better draft pick is more important than playing spoiler.

Maybe ownership can turn off the hot water in the clubhouse, buy a rickety old bus for road games Major League style

[g60rabbit]

Granderson getting hot??

2---1 run games.

RISP in the series 1 for 25

They should have 2 win...and the games shouldnt have even been close

[beng]

Maybe ownership can turn off the hot water in the clubhouse, buy a rickety old bus for road games Major League style

Hahaha nice

Nova is back. Andy next week? Maybe if te pitching gets healthy... they can string some wins together.

[g60rabbit]

Bases loaded no outs.....no hits

[beng]

2 for 31 with RISP in the series... Both hits... The Captain

[g60rabbit]

2 for 31 with RISP in the series... Both hits... The Captain

Make that 2-34. Did they have any pitcher with an era bellow 5. Robertson and soriano shouldn't even have been needed in these games.

Kudos to soriano on his 38th save.

Hughes grabs his 15th era bellow 4