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Thread: ****Boost Factory Side Mount intercooler****

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    02-04-2006 03:13 PM #1
    Boost factory has developed a replacement Side Mounter Intercooler that outperforms the top FMIC's out there with the advantage of keeping everything stealth and in the stock location with little to no trimming. Here's what we've found:

    The proper way to test a intercooler has more to do with the temp diferential between the inlet and the outlet than most people realize.You cannot draw any conclusions with just the intake temp logs.

    The proper way to test this is to measure the max temps of the inlet and outlet on the intercooler and ambient outside temp.This can be done with a K type thermocouple and a good multimeter thats designed for use like this.

    Once you get these measurements you can use this formula.

    temp in-temp out
    _________________ * 100 = Thermal efficiency
    temp in-temp ambient

    Here are the real #s that were collected today during the test.

    BFSM
    temp in = 235deg F
    temp out = 85deg F

    Stock SMIC
    temp in = 235deg F
    temp out = 105 deg F

    Anbient temp = 35deg F

    So what do we have?

    BFSM
    235-85=150
    _____________
    235-35=200 ===.75 * 100 = 75%

    Stock SMIC
    235-105=130
    ______________
    235-35= 200 ====.65* 100=65%

    Another side note is the 4+ psi pressure drop of the stock cooler and the unmeasureable drop of the BFSM.

    Another interesting link is the APR site that has enough info for you to draw some interesting conclusions.I do notice they dont mention the ambient temp or the intercooler efficiency.My conclusion from this is that it would take all the same info they provide+ some damm hot ambient temps to equal the BFSM

    We tested this BFSM and found it to flow 491cfm@1psi pressure drop

    Thanks Mr. Chuck B for the Article

    Price is set at a more than competetive $500



    This is a great compliment the eliminator kits that we're offering



    Modified by BoostFactory at 8:25 PM 2-4-2006


  2. 02-04-2006 04:10 PM #2
    I am running one of these and it makes a huge difference. It is a giant heatsoak and does really keeps intake temps down, which keeps the timing closer to TDC, which saves gas. It's an easy install (fits in the stock location) and allows me to keep the HP/Tq that I have.

    If you are chipped and running a DP and exhaust- this is your next mod. For me, it has been one of the top3 three mods that I have done to the car. I wish I had done it long agao.

    Dave


  3. 02-04-2006 04:30 PM #3
    Paul would it fit a b6 1.8t

  4. 02-04-2006 05:28 PM #4
    If it'll fit an NB, i'm all over it guys... cash in hand.

  5. 02-04-2006 05:49 PM #5
    I don't see any mounting tabs, does it just hang there on the hoses?

  6. 02-04-2006 06:37 PM #6

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    02-04-2006 06:56 PM #7
    These would be a great compliment to the eliminator kits

  8. 02-04-2006 08:55 PM #8
    how does the boost factory sidemount ic compare to the forge sidemount ic... other than being $100 cheaper...

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    02-04-2006 08:58 PM #9
    Quote, originally posted by thegreg »
    how does the boost factory sidemount ic compare to the forge sidemount ic... other than being $100 cheaper...

    you mean how would the forge compare to the BFSMIC...
    forge is a joke. don't waste your money.


  10. 02-04-2006 09:02 PM #10
    i thought forge had a pretty good product. just a bit pricey with the pound to dallar conversion... at least that is what i get from most of the post here... i am really interested in a new ic.. just no front mount..

  11. 02-04-2006 09:07 PM #11
    I have a quick question... The intercooler looks great and all, but where are the support brackets for it? I'm guessing that since it's made of metal instead of plastic, and because of it's size, it's going to weigh a bit more than the stock sidemount... Just wondering from the pictures. -Matt

    Edit: Woops, just read above and someone else already pointed this out hehe.


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    02-04-2006 09:14 PM #12
    dont forget to throw the tyrolsport in this thread then too. The Tyrolsport is the most expensive, but has the best build quality. Properly ribbed hose pipes, not a dab of weld in a few spots to keep the hose on.

    i wont even post any of my pics. wouldnt be fair to the other products when compared.

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  13. 02-04-2006 09:59 PM #13
    hey how about tyrolsport really doesn't need your help selling their product, and even if they did, the proper place for it would be in your/their own thread, not jacking Boost Factory's. Not knocking on Tyrolsport at all, but lets not turn this into another cockfight about stupid stuff. Personally, some of us will take the intercooler that isn't as pretty for $200 less, since sidemounts can't be seen anyway.

  14. 02-04-2006 10:16 PM #14
    But will it fit a stock NB???????


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    02-04-2006 10:31 PM #15
    Quote, originally posted by placenta »
    dont forget to throw the tyrolsport in this thread then too. The Tyrolsport is the most expensive, but has the best build quality. Properly ribbed hose pipes, not a dab of weld in a few spots to keep the hose on.

    i wont even post any of my pics. wouldnt be fair to the other products when compared.

    Boost Factory's sidemount intercooler has the largest volume of all other sidemounts, it's also made out of Bell Cores. I'll take your word that the Tyrolsport looks better than the BFSM, some people might want that over a bigger unit that you will never see due to its placement.

    The tabs would rob volume to the Intercooler core itself, this intercooler will come with one tab and it'll be held by the stock hoses and that 1 tab. This is what allows Boost Factory's core to be bigger than any other core in the industry.

    To be a fair comparison you'd need to do the same type of tests that Boost Factory did above. If any other sidemounts cool down the boost with the same or less pressure drop than the BFSM then it's better, plain and simple.

    Paul


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    02-04-2006 10:31 PM #16
    I would love to find a local beetle to use to develop this cooler.I do believe the cores will be slightly smaller,but I will try to fit the best core we can into the car.

    If you guys know anybody in the Minneapolis area(or within driving distance) I would love to get this product started.


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  18. 02-05-2006 02:23 PM #18
    for between 300-350 hp

    would this still be efficient?
    from what ive heard it should be...but any input?


  19. 02-05-2006 03:39 PM #19
    Quote, originally posted by slappynuts »
    I would love to find a local beetle to use to develop this cooler.I do believe the cores will be slightly smaller,but I will try to fit the best core we can into the car.

    If you guys know anybody in the Minneapolis area(or within driving distance) I would love to get this product started.

    since i'm not too confident about finding an NB owner in your area willing to leave his/her car, say I were to mock up a core/endtanks out of foam/wood and send it to you....


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    02-05-2006 03:42 PM #20
    Quote, originally posted by placenta »
    Properly ribbed hose pipes, not a dab of weld in a few spots to keep the hose on.

    i wont even post any of my pics. wouldnt be fair to the other products when compared.

    riiight. the new production of these have full welds for the hoses.

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    02-05-2006 04:18 PM #21
    Quote, originally posted by slappynuts »
    I would love to find a local beetle to use to develop this cooler.I do believe the cores will be slightly smaller,but I will try to fit the best core we can into the car.

    If you guys know anybody in the Minneapolis area(or within driving distance) I would love to get this product started.

    I'd buy one The NB community is CRYING out for an intercooler solution that will fit behind the stock bumper without hacking anything up, front OR side-mount

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  22. 02-05-2006 04:39 PM #22
    Quote, originally posted by Mikes72sb »

    I'd buy one The NB community is CRYING out for an intercooler solution that will fit behind the stock bumper without hacking anything up, front OR side-mount

    Make one for a NB, and this would be an option that none of us have yet. Not all of us want a huge front mount. Make it happen


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    02-05-2006 05:47 PM #23
    Quote, originally posted by Scarab_Beetle »

    since i'm not too confident about finding an NB owner in your area willing to leave his/her car, say I were to mock up a core/endtanks out of foam/wood and send it to you....

    That will work.Go to bells web site and pick the best core size you can fit and I'll make it up.

    The mounting tab apparently was not welded on in the picture above,but there is a tab on them.


  24. 02-05-2006 06:07 PM #24
    I'd buy one, but still no answer on how it will mount with no tabs

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    02-05-2006 06:30 PM #25
    the stock pipes hold it very well. on my unit there was a tab for the top mounting point. just had to drill a hole in it to use that stock mount. even w/o that tab its not going ANYWHERE.
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  26. 02-05-2006 08:58 PM #26
    how will this perform with the APR 3+ kit. or similar??? i'm definately interested... i hate the fitment issues with my fmic..(APR) ..

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    02-05-2006 09:40 PM #27
    Quote, originally posted by EuroBurner GLI »
    I'd buy one, but still no answer on how it will mount with no tabs

    Quote, originally posted by slappynuts »

    That will work.Go to bells web site and pick the best core size you can fit and I'll make it up.

    The mounting tab apparently was not welded on in the picture above,but there is a tab on them.


  28. 02-05-2006 09:52 PM #28
    Could I see an installation write up, to know whats involved?

    Take off the front bumper, then what?

    Sorry, n00b to VW's here.


  29. 02-05-2006 11:01 PM #29
    Weld up some mounting brackets, and much of the Vortex ( including me) would be sold on this, I know you say the pipes hold it on, but with poly motor mounts, and a hard launch the violent shaking would whack that up against everything behind the bumper.

  30. 02-05-2006 11:46 PM #30
    MAKE SOME FOR B6 A4's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    02-05-2006 11:49 PM #31
    The BFSM's come with one bracket, brackets will rob core space and that's the real magic behind these units.

  32. 02-06-2006 12:00 AM #32
    cool, as long as it's mounted to something. I may be picking one of these up

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    02-06-2006 12:14 AM #33
    I am going to say the same thing to you guys as the beetle guys.Find a local MN mule or pick your core from bell intercoolers core selection and fab up some cardboard rnd tanks to make this work.We will offer these as soon as e can otherwise.

  34. 02-06-2006 12:12 PM #34
    i've got a coworker we call slappynuts... free bump.
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    Quote, originally posted by screwball »
    i've got a coworker we call slappynuts... free bump.

    Does he know you call him that?


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