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    Thread: 20v head + MK4 2.0L AEG, AZG, and newer (NOT ABA, NOT 9A, NOT G60, etc)

    1. Member J.Owen's Avatar
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      10-27-2009 12:41 PM #126
      Quote, originally posted by mk4_2.ho »
      josh, you coulda saved me $250 by linking that site about two weeks ago:

      Sorry man, I didn't even realize it existed until I started researching this project.
      They also sell this, but im unsure of how this would affect the end compression ratio. I would assume it would function that same as the standard US spec 1.8T gasket.
      83mm overbore gasket...

      http://www.intengineering.com/....html
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    2. 11-05-2009 05:23 PM #127
      Ok so i my wife emailed C2 today and they told her that the awp hall sensor wheel (cam wheel) will not work on the M5.92 ecu cars. The newer cars with ME 7 or drive by wire cars can use that wheel, so now im s.o.l. I need to come up with a way to put the aeg hall wheel on the 20v cam pulley and bolt up aeg cam sensor to the head.....

      any body have any ideas on that?

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      11-06-2009 01:29 AM #128
      AEG (mk4 2.0L 8v) hall sensor trigger wheel configuration = newer 2.0l and 1.8T wheels. The only wheel that has a different window configuration is the early AEB 1.8Ts. And you can use the later wheel on an AEB with any problems. But you cannot use the early AEB wheel on newer cars.

    4. 11-06-2009 06:16 PM #129
      hey ELREY,
      are you saying that there are two different aeb wheels? If so will the later wheel (aeb) work with the aeg M 5.92 management?
      I have a 99 audi big port head that came with the one window wheel that didnt work either... and is the window pattern of the newer wheel different than the awp wheel?
      sorry for bombarding you with all these questions, im just trying to get this damb car running before winter really sets in.

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      11-06-2009 08:24 PM #130
      AEG (mk4 2.0L) = 4 window (newer) 1.8T trigger wheel (NOT AEB)
      AEB only has 1 wheel and that's a 1 window trigger wheel.
      BUT, what I am saying is that the AEB will can run the 4-window, later wheel.
      In short, get the later 4-window wheel and it will work with everything (mentioned in this conversation).


      Modified by elRey at 8:26 PM 11-6-2009

    6. 11-08-2009 02:35 PM #131
      I have the AWP 4 window wheel and it does not work. The newer wheel only works on newer cars with drive by wire running ME7 ecu's 99' AEG cars running M5.92 ecu's cannot or at least mine is not sending a signal to the ecu to trigger the coil pack....ive checked the coil, ecu, cam senor what else is there, what am i missing?

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      11-08-2009 03:53 PM #132
      I'll say it again. The stock trigger wheel on an AEG IS a 4-window wheel with the SAME window configuration as the newer 1.8Ts AND newer 2.0Ls.
      Prove me wrong. Where is you old cam gear from your 2.0L head?

      What I'm implying is that the trigger wheel is not your problem.


      Modified by elRey at 3:57 PM 11-8-2009

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      11-11-2009 11:52 AM #133
      My AEG is drive by cable. will this hurt me severely in the swap?

    9. 11-13-2009 05:51 PM #134
      No, you should be fine as long as you use all your original sensors

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      12-06-2009 01:35 AM #135
      Any update with this conversion?


      Modified by sauron18 at 1:05 PM 12-6-2009

    11. 12-07-2009 06:51 AM #136
      Quote, originally posted by sauron18 »
      Any update with this conversion?

      Modified by sauron18 at 1:05 PM 12-6-2009

      i have a simple question for everyone,
      what the advantage of using a aeg over a aba block?
      and (if they were made), would a alumminim block with stand more than 300+hp?

    12. 12-07-2009 07:45 PM #137
      AEG blocks are used in the MK4 chasis, ABA blocks are used in MK1,MK2,MK3 chasis, As far as the swap goes i cant figure it out...Still cant get it to start.
      As far as an aluminum block, I dont even think VW makes one....

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      12-08-2009 04:53 PM #138
      never made a aluminum block. they are all cast iron and mk3 aba will not bolt right into a mk4 or newer car as the bolting holes are differnt.
      i agree. i don't think the trigger wheel is your issue. UNLESS it was install incorrectly, damaged or in the wrong postion
      i have been looking around for info on this and i can't seem to find anything of any help(hence why i haven't called back yet)
      i hate to say it but we may have to look at the car in person some how to figure this out if your totally stuck.
      we will have to look into the ecu, cam sensor setup and other out puts to see if they are good and the synce together.
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      12-09-2009 05:18 PM #139
      bwidow, do you have access to another AEG ECU (stock)?
      Can you take pictures and email them to me of:
      -CAM position sensor this the sensor on and with it off (show the wheel).
      -clear view of your plug wires to show which coil fire which cylinder.

      Do you have access to a multi-meter. if so, check continuity on the CAM position sensor connector to the ECU connector:
      CPS -> ECU
      1 -> 62
      2 -> 76
      3 -> 67

    15. 12-10-2009 07:27 PM #140
      Thanks Josh & Elrey for your time and help with this nightmare of mine.
      I will take pics of sensors and wires in the mean time ill check for continuty on those wires, The rotor pn# 06B-905-234-A (4 window awp 03') cam sensor pn# 058-905-161B
      Ill try to have my wife to help with posting pic, When I last compared the AEG cam pulley with the awp rotor they appear to be the same configuration just smaller in diameter, The cam sensor for the AEG is mounted to the bottom of the wheel, while the 20v picks up it at the top. Ive tried mounting the rotor 180 to no avail and ruining the rotor, but i picked up another
      thanks again guys.

    16. 12-12-2009 12:19 PM #141
      so i just went out and checked for continuity on the cam sensor wires back to ecu plug and they checked out ok. Spark plug wires are in their right place

      1-2-3-4 spark plugs
      3 1
      2 4 coil
      cam sensor pn#232-101-024

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      12-12-2009 01:58 PM #142
      Any 1.8t 20v sensor (hall sensor) will work.
      Next steps I would do is
      - try a know good hall sensor
      - try a stock AEG ecu

    18. 12-12-2009 06:52 PM #143
      I'll try a brand new cam sensor, ive tried 2 different ones already, and i have a $500 c2 chipped ecu as far as trying another ecu, does any body have an 06A-906-018 CR ecu around that can come and try it. ill pay foy your time...

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      12-12-2009 09:43 PM #144
      Find a friend with a 1.8t and try their hall sensor.
      And any AEG will do for a test.

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      12-16-2009 04:17 PM #145
      Very intresting topic, I have a 20v head AWD sitting around..... It came off of the 00 1.8T (it has 5 or 6 valves bent)... I might go for it....

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      02-04-2010 04:56 PM #146
      bump

    22. 02-09-2010 04:19 PM #147
      hey guys so I go to the bone yard today for ****s an giggles and they had a jetta with a ecu in it still, got it for $10. put it in the beetle, and what do you know it started right up. C2 needs to tell me something!!!!. ELREY I said it before and Ill say it again thank you....

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      02-09-2010 04:29 PM #148
      Quote, originally posted by bwidow »
      they had a jetta with a ecu in it still, got it for $10. put it in the beetle, and what do you know it started right up.

      hell of a find!

    24. 02-09-2010 06:06 PM #149
      The c2 chipped one is going in the mail tommorow morning, Ive been bumming rides to work for over threee months, theyve been telling me its something to do w/ the cam sensor not being the the original one that came with the car.....

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      02-09-2010 08:55 PM #150
      Nice! I´m glad for you...

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