Unless you try it, don't tell me it can't work, cuz it does...

**Dan J Reed** · 02-27-2006 10:08 PM

Given the "cutting shifter" posts and all that, I felt I had to take some type of leap.

Take 1 stock shifter lever. And two chunks of metal, same thickness, about 1.5" long each

(No, I don't measure... Did this all by eye... rulers are no fun..)

Chop that chunk about somewhere in the middle.

Weld the two plates to it about 1/2" or 5/8" longer or so... again, no ruler..

Install that chunk o ugly weld into your 020 trans... and..

Yup, its a real short shifter folks. My shift throw went from 5.6" at the top of the shifter, down to 4"...

Does not, and cannot "hit shift linkage" or "harm syncros..".. I have a cut away trans if you don't think so...

**OnelowcabriO** · 02-27-2006 10:09 PM

nice gloves

**Dan J Reed** · 02-27-2006 10:10 PM

Thanks, they keep my hands pretty.

**Franco...** · 02-27-2006 10:12 PM

i love hillbilly stuff.

**Mr Kai** · 02-27-2006 10:12 PM

so how did you measure the shift throw?

**geoffsta99** · 02-27-2006 10:13 PM

nice job it looks good

**Dan J Reed** · 02-27-2006 10:14 PM

Quote, originally posted by Mr Kai »

so how did you measure the shift throw?

Well, I DID use a ruler for that.. well a dial caliper.

Measured in the car... at the top of the front of the shifter...

**semaphore** · 02-27-2006 10:15 PM

today i just found out i had a sachs clutch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

**bosoxfan455** · 02-27-2006 10:16 PM

looks good, i would have done the same if i had a decent welder and the confidence in my welds so i wasnt left stranded somewhere. do you think it should be as square as possible though? i can see problems with the gears not engaging properly because of this

maybe not i dont know for sure

**Dan J Reed** · 02-27-2006 10:18 PM

Naa.. dude, there is sooooo much room to play with this design... If the lever is straight, its gonna work. I just held it with vice grips when I welded it... 120V gasless mig deal.. All this adjusts is the "front to back" throw, not side to side...

**Neb** · 02-27-2006 10:18 PM

Quote, originally posted by GotCandy »

today i just found out i had a sachs clutch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

**ChinkyVdub** · 02-27-2006 10:20 PM

i could have sold you my short shifter

**-DOOMED-** · 02-27-2006 10:20 PM

it wont work.

**brobsrabbit** · 02-27-2006 10:23 PM

you really should adjust it afterwards

**bosoxfan455** · 02-27-2006 10:23 PM

Quote, originally posted by Dan J Reed »

Naa.. dude, there is sooooo much room to play with this design... If the lever is straight, its gonna work. I just held it with vice grips when I welded it... 120V gasless mig deal.. All this adjusts is the "front to back" throw, not side to side...

yeah thats true, i guess it doesnt have to be exact, either way it looks good and you saved some cash. mass production and you could be making millions

**Teufelhunde** · 02-27-2006 10:24 PM

**reynolds9000** · 02-27-2006 10:30 PM

Sorry for being the layman, but what is different about it aside from being cut and welded..

What, in the design, reduces the throw.

**Ninja Boot** · 02-27-2006 10:32 PM

Quote, originally posted by GotCandy »

today i just found out i had a sachs clutch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DIY stuff is the way to go, nice job

**Cabrio1.8T** · 02-27-2006 10:43 PM

I believe it is a leverage thing.

A____^__B

2 ^ 1

A________ ^ __B

4 ^ 1
B is the shifter, A is the lever on the tranny.
It takes the first one twice the length to push the other side the same distance. I think

**-DOOMED-** · 02-27-2006 10:43 PM

Quote, originally posted by brobsrabbit »

you really should adjust it afterwards

Dan knows what hes doing man

**ILL_VW** · 02-27-2006 10:49 PM

seems like a good idea cuz other short shift decrease the leverage and make it harder to shift while urs actually makes it easier to shift. Youd think some company would have though of that before.

**yeayeayea** · 02-27-2006 10:54 PM

Shift linkage removal.

first step remove retaining pin for shift weight, move shift weight out of the way of linkage.

second step remove ball joint. I used a thick flat tip screwdriver. i put the blade under the ball joint and twisted. then i pulled up and the piece came right off. make sure you unclip it first before prying.

finally use a 13 mm wrench to loosen the nut holding the lever on. then sumply pull the lever off. mine came off easiest in the upright position. 13mm nut can be seen in picture above.

here are the two linkages in side by side position.

From first glance it is a thick piece of metal, and seems like it will be tough to bend. therefore i will be using a torch to heat it up. it appears that the autotech is simply a cut and modified stock piece.

you will need to make the s bend in the piece right angles. bend the first bend further until it is a 90.

in that picture i went slightly past 90, but it shouldnt make much of a difference.

next bend another 90 until the part where the shift weight went into is parallel with the b all joint.

it should look like this when its done.

make sure the shift weight hole part of the lever is straight, not wavy. now drill your hole where you want it and put back in your bushing andd youre ready to go. i do not have the drill bit big enough to drill the hole so i wont be able to test it today. but as it is now it is stll probally close to a 30-35%% reduction.

Modified by yeayeayea at 6:17 PM 4-21-2009

**Col2y** · 02-27-2006 11:27 PM

good job man ... but those are some ugly ugly welds

**yeayeayea** · 02-28-2006 12:10 AM

the method i shoed is one i did a while ago modeled after the autotech short shift. the piece i modified was originally a stock piece. modifying this piece reduces the up and down throw. doing the piece dan did reduces up and down as well i believe, but my method doesnt require welding for those who cant do it.

Modified by yeayeayea at 9:11 PM 2-27-2006

**yeayeayea** · 02-28-2006 12:13 AM

I guess one of the mods should add this to the DIY page for the complete DIY short shift thread.

**dirtycountry** · 02-28-2006 01:08 AM

Quote, originally posted by Col2y »

good job man ... but those are some ugly ugly welds

yep x2

**elmer fud** · 02-28-2006 01:22 AM

did these to my MK1 and worked well also, for those of you with other gen cars.

**yeayeayea** · 02-28-2006 01:48 AM

yep, mk1-2-3 shift linkage is very very similar. mk3s have the shift weight, among other minor changes. but these mods should work for all 3 makes.

**Dubz Minus 3** · 02-28-2006 01:54 AM

Modified by Dubz Minus 3 at 4:19 PM 6-25-2006

**yeayeayea** · 02-28-2006 01:55 AM

Quote, originally posted by Dubz Minus 3 »

i dont understand why this is "hillbilly"? just because he didnt buy it from a company and made it himself and it works? Duct tape and wooden truck beds are hillbilly

maybe because in all of dans pictures he titled them the hillbilly short shifter. calm down dude.

**Dubz Minus 3** · 02-28-2006 02:03 AM

lmao i didnt notice that lol my bad

**paulzeee** · 02-28-2006 02:03 AM

Quote, originally posted by reynolds9000 »

Sorry for being the layman, but what is different about it aside from being cut and welded..

What, in the design, reduces the throw.

i wont apologize for this but...you are telling me after razing me about not SEARCHING!!! (which i did btw) for a post about short shift vs. cut shift that you couldnt find the answer to this by SEARCHING!?

...i laugh at you *******s that take your lame 5 seconds to type a moronic post just to remind someone to SEARCH!!...well maybe they have and just want to piss people off, or make people like you waste those oh so 5 seconds of time to post a useless post...idiot.

**yeayeayea** · 02-28-2006 02:06 AM

wow.

anyway, the longer that rod is, the less degrees of rotation at the pivot point are needed to make the dame displacement at the end of the rod. this in turn requires less movement of the shift rod to get the same displacement on this modified rod. the drawback is that the resistance in shifting in the transmission is increased with the lengthening of the rod. the longer rod allows the same force to apply a stronger moment on the pivot point, which is transferred to the shifter. but dont worry, its not much and is easily adapted to.

**Dan J Reed** · 02-28-2006 08:53 AM

Quote, originally posted by -DOOMED- »

it wont work.

Quiet you.

**cramerica** · 02-28-2006 08:58 AM

maybe you could make a diagram showing how this shortens throw

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