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    Thread: BIGGEST engine ever? In a car . . .

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      03-15-2006 09:03 AM #1
      What about it, you automotive historians? What is the largest-displacement engine in a passenger vehicle ever? Can be any road-going or racing car, but not one of those off road mining truck monstrosities.

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    2. 03-15-2006 09:05 AM #2
      I'm going to go with this,

      Quote, originally posted by Wikipedia

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      500

      For 1970 Cadillac stroked the V8 to 4.304 in (109.3 mm), increasing total displacement to 500 cu. in. (8.2L). At introduction it was rated at 400 hp (298 kW), SAE gross, and 550 lb-ft (857 N-m) of torque. For 1971 compression was reduced to 8.5:1, reducing power to 365 hp (gross) or 235 hp (175 kW) in the new SAE ratings. By 1976, its final year, it had fallen to 190 hp (141.7 kW). It remains the largest displacement regular-production passenger car engine ever offered by a US manufacturer.


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      The Bugatti Type 41, better known as the Royale, is perhaps the most extreme luxury car ever built. It was enormous, with a 4300 mm (169.3 in) wheelbase and 6.4 m (21 ft) overall length. It weighed approximately 3175 kg (7000 lb) and used a massive 12.8 L (12763 cc/778 in³) straight-8 engine.


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      03-15-2006 09:08 AM #3
      Quote, originally posted by gobluevw »
      I'm going to go with this,

      Nah, GM makes a 620 Big-Block

      What was the displacement of the Cadillac V-16?

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      03-15-2006 09:08 AM #4
      New Viper is 500cu in too no?

    5. 03-15-2006 09:08 AM #5
      production? prob the 572 crate motor by gm, thats my guess,


      non-production? how about the tank-engined car that jay leno has?


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      03-15-2006 09:20 AM #6
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      03-15-2006 09:21 AM #7
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      The Beast with a 27 liter V12 Merlin aircraft engine

      http://www.superjohn.f9.co.uk/thebeast.htm

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolls-Royce_Merlin


    8. 03-15-2006 09:43 AM #8
      Is the cadillac sixteen somewhere around 12-16l.

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      03-15-2006 09:47 AM #9
      I was going to say the '70 Caddy. I thought it was a 502 cubic inch but 500 sounds close enough! Rebuilt one in high school. Installed it in a 4x4 Chevy when done!
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      03-15-2006 09:50 AM #10
      I think the cars of the '30s had anything recent beat. Wasn't there a four-engined, four-wheel-drive dragster that used to be in the Guiness Book? This was YEARS ago .

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      03-15-2006 09:52 AM #11
      Here's what I was thinking of, Tommy Ivo's dragster, circa 1958. Four Buick 464 cu-in engines:


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      03-15-2006 09:57 AM #12
      When I get to my house I'll tell you. I have a picture of a prince's car in like the year....1940. I think it had like 20+ liters.

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      03-15-2006 10:05 AM #13

      Both Porsche and Audi Union had some rather large engines in their hill climbing cars of yesteryear. I will need to check the library (stack of books) at home later for displacement values.

      Chris


    14. 03-15-2006 10:12 AM #14
      I know the winner. Someone had posted a german company that had worked on making a Cobra with some insanly large engine. Doupt il find the link
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      03-15-2006 10:16 AM #15
      Quote, originally posted by jeremy80l »
      I know the winner. Someone had posted a german company that had worked on making a Cobra with some insanly large engine. Doubt i'll find the link

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      03-15-2006 10:20 AM #16
      I will have to look up some exact models in my racing book collection, but racing cars between 1902-1915 had humongous engines.

      The Ford 999 has a 4 cylinder of almost 1200 C.I. and there were Fiats that were bigger still.

      The Allison airplane engine V12 was also sometimes used in dragsters in the 50's and 60's


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      03-15-2006 10:23 AM #17
      Quote, originally posted by sebastianjbauer »
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    18. 03-15-2006 10:24 AM #18
      Quote, originally posted by Sledge »
      The Beast with a 27 liter V12 Merlin aircraft engine

      http://www.superjohn.f9.co.uk/thebeast.htm

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolls-Royce_Merlin

      For the win. First thing that came to mind.


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      03-15-2006 10:47 AM #19
      Quote, originally posted by StattlichPassat »
      For the win. First thing that came to mind.

      x2. /thread. The only other thing that'd match it was the '55 Chevy with the same engine that went up on ebay a few months ago.

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    21. 03-15-2006 11:35 AM #21
      Rolls Royce Merlin Engine, 1649 cubic inches:

      http://visitbristol.co.uk/site/things_to_do/new_exhibit_at_haynes_international_motor_museum

      A Rolls Royce 'Special' with a 27 litre, 12 cylinder Merlin engine, as used in the famous World War II Spitfire fighter plane is the latest exhibit at the Haynes International Motor Museum at Sparkford in Somerset.

      According to the previous owner, The Rolls Royce 'Special' Open 4 seater goes "as fast as you dare to drive it" and reputedly gives "the buzz of a lifetime", and stopping distances "need to be thought about well in advance".

      Built on a 1928 Overland chassis from the Midlands, the Spitfire based Rolls-Royce Merlin aero engined car drives via a 4 speed pre-selector gearbox and then through twin chains to the live rear axle and runs on 20 inch artillery wheels with hydraulic brakes to the rear wheels only! The Merlin engined spitfire was of course instrumental in winning the Battle of Britain and was flown by the "brave few".

      Sorry I can't locate any photos.


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      03-15-2006 11:45 AM #22
      Quote, originally posted by Sledge »
      The Beast with a 27 liter V12 Merlin aircraft engine

      http://www.superjohn.f9.co.uk/thebeast.htm

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolls-Royce_Merlin

      Nice, but I like it better in this car:

      http://www.landings.com/_landi....html

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    23. 03-15-2006 11:47 AM #23
      Quote, originally posted by RabbitsKin »
      Here's what I was thinking of, Tommy Ivo's dragster, circa 1958. Four Buick 464 cu-in engines:

      If we're looking pure displacement to the wheels, this wins so far....

      4 engines at 464 c.i. each = 1856 c.i. total
      1856 c.i. = 30.4144 L...which beats the tar out of that 27L Merlin by a whopping 3L (3L is the size of my old Ranger's V6 engine just for a size comparison).

      Now, if we're talking HP to the wheels, that something totally different and out of my realm!!!

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      03-15-2006 11:56 AM #24
      Quote, originally posted by Egz »

      Nice, but I like it better in this car:

      http://www.landings.com/_landi....html

      That's what i was thinking of


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      03-15-2006 12:04 PM #25

      Jay Leno's Tank car

      http://images.google.ca/images...ab=wi

      This engine is an AV-1790-5B and it's 1792 cu. in. It has overhead cams and Hemi heads. Since it was designed to move a tank, it puts out 810 hp and makes 1560 ft.-lb. of torque. But you can't just hit the local neighborhood NAPA store for replacement parts on one of these.

      Although I would hardly call this a 'car'

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      03-15-2006 01:14 PM #26
      ^ I love that thing!
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      03-15-2006 02:04 PM #27
      Quote, originally posted by RabbitsKin »
      Here's what I was thinking of, Tommy Ivo's dragster, circa 1958. Four Buick 464 cu-in engines:

      The cranks are linked on each bank of motors on that car which in reality makes them 2 16 cyl motors rather than 4 8cyl.

      If anyone cares, that car is sitting 3 blocks from my house in Indiana, and I have pushed that dumb monster on and off a trailer quite a few times. Its very heavy. I know the owner.


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      03-15-2006 02:25 PM #28
      Now THAT's awesome!

      My hat is off to you sir.


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      03-15-2006 02:31 PM #29
      I think, straight from the factory, the biggest engine ever was in a ZIL Limo

    30. 03-15-2006 02:35 PM #30
      Quote, originally posted by Sledge »
      The Beast with a 27 liter V12 Merlin aircraft engine

      http://www.superjohn.f9.co.uk/thebeast.htm

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolls-Royce_Merlin

      Could they have made that any uglier???

      Still pretty awesome.


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      03-15-2006 02:41 PM #31
      16.4 buggati. veyron is rather large for a productiong

    32. 03-15-2006 02:49 PM #32
      Quote, originally posted by inneedofafastcar »
      16.4 buggati. veyron is rather large for a productiong

      8L, not that big seeing as it's a W16


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      03-15-2006 03:42 PM #33
      I know it was a concept but, what about the 2003 Caddy V16 with 1,000 HP? Not sure of the displacement. It was a modern rendition of the original 1930s car.

      http://www.zillions.org/cro/20...x.htm


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      03-15-2006 03:49 PM #34
      Quote, originally posted by giantrobot9000 »
      Could they have made that any uglier???

      Still pretty awesome.

      That's why it's called "The Beast" instead of "The Beauty"

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      03-15-2006 05:09 PM #35
      Quote, originally posted by Egz »

      First time I glanced at the picture I thought the brown shirts were people like this:

      In reality, this car deserves such respect.

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