Eaton guys represent...

[bastien]

hello, I just want to show you my set up on my golf G60 with eaton M90. the two followings pictures are my brackets :

with the eaton :

In the enginebay, we can't see the eaton :

I also got :

- tuned chip
- injector 305 cc (from audi S2)
- fan under my stock intercooler
- competition exhaust (groupe N)
- .... (few others things !)
and a AEM wideband (with this i send the lambda info to the digifant) :

hope you enjoy

[g60_c]

nice setup!

is that a magnuson shortened nose-drive on there? or did you pull the nose drive from another oem application?

-Nate

[bastien]

thx g60_c !

i don't know where comes from the nose-drive, i think it 's stock.

i only know that i got a smaller outlet than M90 with long nose (see the picture bellow, there are the outlet "3.8" from mustang and my outlet) :

Modified by bastien at 9:30 AM 6-17-2008

[vonfulk]

Quote, originally posted by bastien »

i don't know where comes from the nose-drive, i think it 's stock.

Can't be stock, or at least, not from a Tbird Super Coupe. Would love to know where to get one though.

Really nice setup btw

EDIT:

http://www.magnusonproducts.com/freecatalog.htm


Modified by vonfulk at 6:56 PM 6-17-2008

[g60_c]

[QUOTE=bastien]thx g60_c !

i don't know where comes from the nose-drive, i think it 's stock.

i only know that i got a smaller outlet than M90 with long nose (see the picture bellow, there are the outlet "3.8" from mustang and my outlet) :

[\quote]

hhmm... can i ask WHERE you got the charger from? i'm assuming you got the charger, and outlet(s) as a package deal from somewhere/someone?? ebay perhaps?

again though, nice setup!

-nate

[bastien]

i have bought the eaton alone in france (my country, so excuse me if i have a bad english !) and even the sealer don't know exactly where it comes from.
then i have bought the outlet "3.8" but it 's too big, so i have built my own outlet

[OhioBenz]

Quote, originally posted by bastien »

then i have bought the outlet "3.8" but it 's too big, so i have built my own outlet

i tend to think its an M62 especially since the outlet is smaller. The 3.8 outlet you show on the right has fit every M90 i have seen so far.

your bracket work is excellent!!

[bastien]

yes but i have already seen a M62 and my blower got bigger outlet and inlet !

[billibum]

nice job

[cosmo50cc]

ok so i have an m90 off a supercoupe. who knows what size and thread pitch the bolts for the intake and outlet plenums are?

[g60_c]

Quote, originally posted by cosmo50cc »

ok so i have an m90 off a supercoupe. who knows what size and thread pitch the bolts for the intake and outlet plenums are?

all i can tell you is, they are the same as the bolts that hold your intake manifold brace to the valve cover on a PG head... past that, sorry

on an unrelated note... i've got 600 miles on my 16VM90 setup... took it up the highway this past weekend... figured "hey.. that's enough mileage to open up the engine".. gave it a 3rd gear pull to redline (7000rpm)... then snagged 4th... up to about 6k... as i shifted into 5th, it hiccuped... and i looked in the rearview... blue smoke.. EVERYWHERE... turns out i filled the catchcan with 1 quart of oil.. then blew the rest all over the engine bay...

so... a -6 line from the block breather, into an independant catchcan... AND a newbeetle breather off the valvecover... valvecover breather is the one that spit the oil..

so, back to the drawingboard... perhaps a cam cover to prevent direct oil sling...

also, having some massive belt-slip issues... 10psi @ 2.5k... 12psi @ 3.5k 14psi @ 4k... 10psi @ 5k.. *sigh*... time for more belt-wrap... if that doesn't solve it... time for a positive drive system

-nate

[potatonet]

just get a tighter belt.... dur

and didnt I say something about that catch system a while ago... pressure relief valve would be a good choice

[swingwing205]

Quote, originally posted by g60_c »

also, having some massive belt-slip issues... 10psi @ 2.5k... 12psi @ 3.5k 14psi @ 4k... 10psi @ 5k.. *sigh*... time for more belt-wrap... if that doesn't solve it... time for a positive drive system -nate

Delete your AC compressor, and get the ABA water pump pulley. You'll then have plenty of wrap, and you won't have any slip at all, if your belt routing is anything like the stock G60's was. I'm going to do this myself at the next service interval.

On a side note, I don't have any slip at all, and my set up is basically using the stock AC pulley (although right now it's a dummy pulley), very close to stock G60 belting configuration. I set it up like that to test fitment and whatnot, since most people want AC as well as a supercharger on their car, but IMHO AC is overrated. But I'm also using a slightly bigger pulley on my charger I custom made a 3.55" one, measured at the crest of the serps), so that might also be helping me out as well, simply because there is slightly more contact area on the pulley.

[potatonet]

agreed.... electric ac and custom lines ftw

[OhioBenz]

positive drive gearbelts ftw LOL
I'm not even going to mess w/ serp on the Rabbit project....
Browning and Martin make a host of aluminum gearbelt pulleys you can bore and mod in multiple pitch/tooth configurations.... and as long as you have access to a lathe they are pretty cheap too

[g60_c]

Quote, originally posted by OhioBenz »

positive drive gearbelts ftw LOL I'm not even going to mess w/ serp on the Rabbit project.... Browning and Martin make a host of aluminum gearbelt pulleys you can bore and mod in multiple pitch/tooth configurations.... and as long as you have access to a lathe they are pretty cheap too

that is going to be the project for the fall/winter...

as for the Ac.. it's been gone for years... alternator is slung under there currently... and i have plenty of space to do a better amount of belt wrap. I'll see what i can do as i have time... for now, it's still a friggin hoot to drive.. i mean.. 9:1 comp.. 16V.. shrick 268's.. the 10 psi hits quite hard.. 15+ would be nice.. but.. even so.. i can live w/what i've got

the oil sling.. well.. that kinda bothers me... i'll see what happens as the engine breaks in more. It's possible the rings never fully seated... so if i have to pop the engine open again.. well. .sounds like a good excuse to upgrade to some scat rods, and have the bottom end balanced & knife edged to me

in all reality, lets face it.... "problems" are just excuses to justify the upgrades right?

-Nate

[OhioBenz]

Quote, originally posted by g60_c »

in all reality, lets face it.... "problems" are just excuses to justify the upgrades right? -Nate

best line ever..... soooooo true

[g60_c]

Quote, originally posted by OhioBenz »

best line ever..... soooooo true

glad someone liked it i've been using that reasoning for years now

"oh... my suspension is shot... well.. while i'm in there, i might as well put in koni yellows.. h&r race... and redo all the bushings with poly too"

-Nate

[OhioBenz]

Quote, originally posted by g60_c »

glad someone liked it i've been using that reasoning for years now "oh... my suspension is shot... well.. while i'm in there, i might as well put in koni yellows.. h&r race... and redo all the bushings with poly too" -Nate

magic plastic can make it all come true

[potatonet]

until magic plastic runs out of room

[svs]

I just picked up an M90 for my G60, do I need to put the M62 nose on there to fit it?

[g60_c]

Quote, originally posted by svs »

I just picked up an M90 for my G60, do I need to put the M62 nose on there to fit it?

no.

you can fit it with the stock m90 nose... space just becomes... well.. rare

-Nate

[gti97r]

hey nate,

what are you going to do about your breather can overflowing....im having the same issue on my 9a twin screw

i heard that 16v cylinder heads fill to the top with oil under load..true or false?

[potatonet]

well thats obvious...

take out a freeze plug and have a custom freeze plug made to put the oil back into the crankcase!!!!!!!

man I should market that...

[OhioBenz]

Quote, originally posted by potatonet »

well thats obvious... take out a freeze plug and have a custom freeze plug made to put the oil back into the crankcase!!!!!!! man I should market that...

your joking right?

freeze plugs - coolant.....

[OhioBenz]

Quote, originally posted by gti97r »

hey nate, what are you going to do about your breather can overflowing....im having the same issue on my 9a twin screw i heard that 16v cylinder heads fill to the top with oil under load..true or false?

maybe we can open up some drain holes???

[potatonet]

oh yeah... wow Im out of it...

crank case breather port on block?

[gti97r]

anyone have a serious answer?

[OhioBenz]

Quote, originally posted by gti97r »

anyone have a serious answer?

i was serious....
but i do have something else up my sleeve that I have wondered about for some time.... just waiting on the OEM pieces to try it out...

[potatonet]

Quote, originally posted by gti97r »

anyone have a serious answer?

that was serious, the mod it till it works method always works

[g60_c]

Quote, originally posted by gti97r »

hey nate, what are you going to do about your breather can overflowing....im having the same issue on my 9a twin screw i heard that 16v cylinder heads fill to the top with oil under load..true or false?

i actually believe i'm going to ditch the VCB, and go with a larger CC breather, and a windage tray/crank scraper (not sure yet which).. time & funding allowing of course

i also haven't beat on it since i changed the oil/etc... so that may have some influence on my CC overflow issues.

currently my CC breather line is only a -6 (it's what i had available at the time, and was too broke to go out & purchase more line & crap) that's why i did the new beetle breather..

I may do some ghetto alterations for the current NB VCB, a spray shield, and some packing to help keep the oil in, and the air out... if it works, i'll go further with it and will report back.

on an unrelated note, my egt probe finally came in, which means less reason to put off installing the remainder of my datalogging stuff... finally see what exactly this engine is doing when i get after it (aside from putting large holes in my wallet when it asks for the 93 octane)...

the freeze plug idea from potato, isn't a bad one... except for the whole "coolant" prblem of course... HOWEVER... on the 9A... the stock CC breather assembly, uses a hole on the front of the block, both the one next to the oil filter assy, AND a round one that coincidently, fits a freeze plug you could do that and drain back the CCan to the oil pan...if you were of a mind to do something like that of course.

-Nate

[OhioBenz]

OK, took some digging to find this back....

car is speeding-G60's
500+ HP 1.8t
I never read of him blowing oil....

Believe the aluminum VC was modified by INA....
Should provide some reference for plumbing the breather can. He IS using the stock plastic block breather housing!

If you have hours to spare - read Aaron's complete thread on the building of this drag car - there isnt a more complete and detailed thread on the Tex!!! 74 pages worth of good info!!
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zer...age=1

[gti97r]

i did this to the valve cover

and used bbms plate with 3/4 inch line and fitting

ive only driven it a few times and under 1/4 at most...still seems to pour oil from the vc.

i was thinkin maybe some filters or material in the line at the vc to block oil and allow air? or maybe theres a check valve out there that does that?


Modified by gti97r at 8:21 PM 7-25-2008

[cosmo50cc]

finally got the m90 in its making 10psi around 3500 rpm

[OhioBenz]

Any of you guys that are making more boost I have two Digi-1 chips that I'm not going to be using since I'm going MSnS-e...
One is a BBM stage 3, the other is an SNS stage 5.5 (for a turbo, cams, bigger injectors etc)
If you find out you need aome more fuel drop me an IM!!