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      08-22-2007 07:45 PM #71
      Well the wire works, but it is posing a new question.

      To those who have done this mod so far, here is the question:

      Go outside, get in your car, and step on the brakes. Does ANYTHING light up? Note, I did not say, put your lights on. Nor, did I say, turn the car on.

      I just finished connecting the jumper wire, the coding was already done. When I step on the brake pedal without the car on, nothing happens, not even the third brake light turns on. When I step on the brake pedal with the taillights on and the car off, nothing happens. When I step on the brake pedal with the car on, and lights off or on, my brake lights function.

      Is anyone else having this issue? Did we miss something?

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      08-22-2007 07:50 PM #72
      That's how all of them are. Even before you wired them up they were like that. Normal

    3. 08-22-2007 07:57 PM #73
      Yeah, the brake lights do not turn on with the ignition off. That's how it is for US spec and UK spec (probably the others as well). Now if you're igition is on and there's nothing, then you've got a problem.
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      08-22-2007 08:05 PM #74
      Quote, originally posted by g60_corrado_91 »
      Yeah, the brake lights do not turn on with the ignition off. That's how it is for US spec and UK spec (probably the others as well). Now if you're igition is on and there's nothing, then you've got a problem.

      Really... Then why do I want to think that most cars, and I thought including the VW's that I've had, it doesn't matter whether or not the car is running for the brake lights to work??

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    5. 08-22-2007 09:50 PM #75
      Quote, originally posted by VWYankee »


      You can do everything the DIY says without a jumper wire, but the outer half circle of the taillight will NOT light up at all as you won't have any wire running to the terminal that sends the power/signal. So, the inner half circle will still function right as a tail and brake light with amber being in the little center circle.

      Modified by VWYankee at 11:30 AM 8-11-2007

      Like this?

      Figures. I actually like the way the inners only are on but I think it would be the same for the brake lights. What I would like to do is make the tail lights inner only but still have full brake lights and do it via vag com, but I doubt I could do that.

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    6. 08-22-2007 09:52 PM #76
      Quote, originally posted by Elmer J Fudd »

      Really... Then why do I want to think that most cars, and I thought including the VW's that I've had, it doesn't matter whether or not the car is running for the brake lights to work??

      That's a good damn question. I know my 98 Jetta had functioning brake lights when the ignition was on. All other cars I know of are the same too, even new GM cars (I work at a Chevy/Buick dealership). But then again, maybe it's a European thing. I'm sure all the new Audi's are the same way as ours are. I'm thinking MkIV's (99.5 through early 2006) had the old system too. I guess VW figures they need to complicate the electronics further.

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      08-22-2007 10:47 PM #77
      It probably has to do that the signals(voltages) that power up the lights come from the CAN system and since the ignition is off the CAN is off. Older VWs don't have a CAN. Smart (new) vs dumb (old) that's all it is.

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      08-23-2007 01:57 PM #78
      Quote, originally posted by g60_corrado_91 »

      Like this?

      Figures. I actually like the way the inners only are on but I think it would be the same for the brake lights. What I would like to do is make the tail lights inner only but still have full brake lights and do it via vag com, but I doubt I could do that.

      This is what it looks like WITHOUT the jumper wire. Nothing on the outer halves works.

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    9. 08-23-2007 06:59 PM #79
      Quote, originally posted by Elmer J Fudd »

      This is what it looks like WITHOUT the jumper wire. Nothing on the outer halves works.

      I understand that. What I was more curious about is whether I could vag com it that way and if I could still have full brake lights with just the inners on for parking lights. I doubt it though.

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    10. 11-05-2007 08:47 PM #80
      sorry to resurrect this one, however i have a question to those who has spliced the wires, how the heck do you get rid of the bulb light on the dash? I can't find any ways to do it with Vag-Com
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      11-05-2007 09:34 PM #81
      Although I did not splice, I was having a little issue getting the icon to go away. vag-com thread

      Once I set BYTE 3 to 27 the bulb light went out.


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    12. 11-06-2007 12:19 AM #82
      mine is already at 27
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      11-06-2007 04:16 AM #83
      nice DIY you did. Thank you

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      11-06-2007 02:46 PM #84
      Quote, originally posted by AbtSportsline »
      mine is already at 27

      Wired for the Rear Fog?

      Rear Fog Cold Diag bit is set?

      BYTE 04, what is the HEX on that?

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    15. 11-08-2007 04:05 PM #85
      Has anyone done this mod with an '07 Rabbit? Wondering what long coding was used if different from 4string's. Also I'm going to use the soldering method instead of splicing, does this change any coding?

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      01-13-2008 02:43 PM #86
      It is NOT necessary to remove the "pink terminal locking device" from the wire plug. In fact there is a retainer notch if you inspect the housing, on the reverse side of the green spring tensioner clip, you'll find a cutout with access to the "pink" terminal locking device. Look again and you'll see the 2 notches, one is lock, the other is unlocked. Go past that and you break the end piece you can see from where his thumb is.





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    17. 02-29-2008 12:46 AM #87
      im getting a few red x's on the first page instructions.
      any updates available?

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      02-29-2008 04:02 AM #88
      Quote, originally posted by quailallstar »
      So when you change lanes the turnsignals are YELLOW? If so im doing this mod.. Wonder if you can make the stock ones light up yellow?

      Yes, this is what my friend did to my car..

      He had to take the inside of the light out, and replace it with the OEM Euro Tails for the GTI. They come with a orange bulb on the inside, so the middle is still white, but when my blinker is on...its the center, and its orange. Also when I brake, the outer portion of the circle of my headlights light up only...so at night, the insides are still dimmed...

      I'm sorry I really have no idea what he actually did though...but here are pics




      Modified by Drummerdude416 at 1:09 AM 2-29-2008


    19. 02-29-2008 08:49 AM #89
      Nice!

    20. 02-29-2008 05:20 PM #90
      still see red x's....
      i actually have this mod done, but i need to reverse it back to stock form.

    21. 04-01-2008 09:03 PM #91
      Hi, I am having the following problems:

      1. The spring loaded harness, do you just pull the spring back and force the plug off?

      2. How do you remove the plastic nuts holding the outer tail lights? Do you also use a wrench? If yes, what size socket is this?

      Thank you so much for helping out a newbie


    22. 06-16-2008 02:24 PM #92
      Desean81, Sorry to revive an old thread, but it seems to be the one most on point. I'm interested in doing your wire bridge, but want to know what gauge wire you used.

      Thanks,
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      06-20-2008 10:56 AM #93
      sorry to continue to keep the old thread alive...

      I'm looking to swap one of my US-spec OEM lights for this part - http://oempl.us/index.php?main...d=296 in order to get the rear fog option. I've also ordered a Euroswitch and am aware of the vag-com setting ill need to change. My question is, besides that, is there anything wiring based that i'll need to change? jumper, etc? Do my factory US-Spec tails have amber in them at all?
      Ideally i'd like to have amber turns, and full circle red braking with rear fog capability. is this possible with the hardware i'll have installed?
      thanks!


    24. 08-02-2008 09:08 PM #94
      If Im correct the vag coding basicly changes the outer brake/turn light into a turn only light and your splicing in to light both brake lights. Is this correct? If so I wanted to just add a new socket for a center bulb to my existing assembly.
      Heres the euro assembly

      and here is the North american assembly

      The only difference is the euro has a socket and the NA doesnt. They both have connections for the center light but the NA just doesnt have a socket. My plan is to make a socket for the center bulb and attatch it there. Amber turn signals for under 20 bucks.
      Heres a mock-up in card stock of the socket pieces minus the mounting hole for the bulb.

      Tin snips a drill a dremel some pliers a soldering iron and some cocktails is all you need. I am going to use an orange photography gel for the amber color and some vinyl tail light tint to complete the job. I cant see spending 500 bucks for all the pieces to get the same effect.

      Modified by forcefedvegas at 12:19 AM 8-3-2008


      Modified by forcefedvegas at 1:50 AM 8-3-2008


    25. 08-08-2008 01:25 PM #95
      Quote, originally posted by forcefedvegas »
      Heres a mock-up in card stock of the socket pieces minus the mounting hole for the bulb.

      Tin snips a drill a dremel some pliers a soldering iron and some cocktails is all you need. I am going to use an orange photography gel for the amber color and some vinyl tail light tint to complete the job. I cant see spending 500 bucks for all the pieces to get the same effect.

      Modified by forcefedvegas at 12:19 AM 8-3-2008


      Modified by forcefedvegas at 1:50 AM 8-3-2008

      why go through all that trouble of making one when you can buy a piece that would fit in there perfectly.. this is what i did and it took me less than 30min from start to finish..

      1. buy a set of 1/2" instrument cluster bulb holder ( conduct-tite 85835)

      2. but side marker light bulbs (if you want it yellow get sylvania 194NA)

      3. perma Poxy 5 min plastic weld

      4. electrical wires
      5. soldering iron with solder

      Mix a small amount of epoxy, place the bulb holder where the buld should be on a euro version it will fit in snuggly but make sure you have the connectors that is on the side of the bulb holder line up with the one on the VW bulb holder. apply a fair amount of epoxy to the side of the holder. while its drying do the same to the other VW bulb holder.. once its dry solder a piece of wire from the side of the bulb holder to the contact point on the VW bulb holder. make sure you solder both sides of the bulb holder.. you dont need to make a jumper like the one in the picture of the euro assembly you posted, there is no need for that. once everything is finish do the wiring mod thats on the first page..

      also All you really need to do is change byte 13 in the code to 00 from the default of 14, that will activate the turn signal lights.. btw i dont have any pics of the work that i finished. i'll be making a DIY of this for future reference with pictures..i should have this done by next week..


    26. 08-08-2008 08:33 PM #96
      I ended up doing this

      The 194 bulb is nowhere near as bright as the H6W that VW uses in the stock European cars. You need the jumper if you dont want to cut into the harness otherwise only one light will light up for your brakes. The jumper is so you dont have to cut into your stock harness to add a wire for the other bulb or buy the terminal wires from VW for 11 bucks a piece. It cost me 11 dollars TOTAL to do this mod.


      Modified by forcefedvegas at 5:37 PM 8-8-2008


      Modified by forcefedvegas at 6:54 PM 8-8-2008


    27. 10-08-2008 11:00 PM #97
      Anyone know how to reverse and go back to stock settings? I can't find my saved coding from before the changes. Here is the Long Coding I'm using:

      07 8F 8F 06 40 04 18 00 00 14 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 08 77 0B 5C 00 00

      Thanks for the help


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      10-09-2008 10:00 AM #98
      Quote, originally posted by peterleeman »
      Anyone know how to reverse and go back to stock settings? I can't find my saved coding from before the changes. Here is the Long Coding I'm using:

      07 8F 8F 06 40 04 18 00 00 14 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 08 77 0B 5C 00 00

      Thanks for the help

      VCDS/Ross-Tech Folder on your Hard Drive, tunnel into that, and find the Debug Folder. Debug holds all of your before, and after code changes.
      Going back to stock, BYTE 13 should be HEX 14

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    29. 10-09-2008 11:54 AM #99
      Thank You!

    30. 10-26-2008 09:26 PM #100
      I just did this mod today, I used the method that Dinan posted above, it was really super easy, I just put some amber bulbs in.
      The mod is currently useless since I havent gotten it VAGed yet, but with any luck I'll get it VAGed at the meet up tonight and I'll have some nice pics to post up. I took plenty of pics for a successful DIY as well.

    31. 10-29-2008 12:54 AM #101
      So do you still have to swap wores in the harness when doing it the way above? Cus I installed the socket, and jumped the wire to it, then I went to VAG it and it didnt work.

    32. 10-29-2008 01:37 AM #102
      Quote, originally posted by corradokidg60 »

      Has anyone experimented with brighter alternatives to the reverse light? I feel it's kinda dark back there with two right now, but with only one when I get R32 rear lights, I'm gonna want to have some extra light back there (I actually use the passenger's side view mirror tilted down to see my rear wheel while reversing.)

      Yes, mine are super bright. I added some of these bulbs that look blue, but shine as a super bright white, theyre called "xenon white" and take the same wattage and are direct replacement, made a big difference. But I wasnt done, I went in and removed on of the lenses (yes theres two, one has virtical lines and the other which you can see from the rear of the car has round lines) I just removed the inner one which has virtical lines, this helped a lot too and still looks very OEM, I'll try to take pics for ya.

      Here we go, theyre brighter than any reverse lights should be. I should have taken a pic from far away too.




      Modified by raven6t9 at 10:46 PM 10-28-2008


    33. 10-29-2008 02:12 AM #103
      Can anyone confirm something for me. Im not sure if the OP took pics of both sides while doing this mod and interchanged them, but Im not seeing this.
      Is this the end result?


      Start
      * G P B
      1 2 3 4

      End
      G P P B
      1 2 3 4

      The letters indicate wire color (G=green P=purple B=brown *=empty slot) and the numbers indicate the slot for the wires (as per indicated on the plug itself)
      The above diagram is what I make of the direction on the 1st page. Anyone confirm?


      Modified by raven6t9 at 11:14 PM 10-28-2008


      Modified by raven6t9 at 11:15 PM 10-28-2008


      Modified by raven6t9 at 11:26 PM 10-28-2008


    34. 11-01-2008 05:06 PM #104
      Made the changes in VAG-COM and all is well except the left reverse light is not turning on. I confirmed it was not a bad bulb. Here is my current long coding;

      07 8F 8F 06 40 04 18 00 00 14 00 00 14 00 00 00 00 08 77 0B 5C 00 00

      Thanks again


    35. 11-05-2008 02:55 AM #105
      Git it workin! Just to let you know the part number needed for that jumper wire might be wrong, I went to the dealer with that part number the other day and it turned out to be the wrong part number.


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