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    Thread: torque specifications for wheel bolts

    1. 05-05-2006 04:08 PM #1
      Does anyone offhand know the proper foot lbs. of torque for the wheel bolts?

      5x100 Jetta GLI (18" BBS from factory)

      Was in a jam on a Sunday and had them mount and balance winter wheels and new tires at Pepboys. ( I know) It was so tight. I had a decent size rachet and the bolt would not loosen. I put a 2-3 foot bar over the rachet handle and bolts were on so tight that it broke the mechanism inside the rachet. WTF?

      Is it possible to brake the rachet if the wheel is torqued at the right specification?


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      05-05-2006 04:08 PM #2
      87 ft/lbs. That's really weird that it broke, you said you used a torque wrench to loosen the bolts?
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    3. 05-05-2006 04:09 PM #3
      impact wrench used by shops != the torque you need at all. never let them tighten it down with impact wrenches. ever.

    4. 05-05-2006 04:22 PM #4
      I can't remember what they used, not sure if I even watched them do it. But you can get a torque stick for an air gun.

    5. 05-05-2006 04:24 PM #5
      My mechanic worked 30 years for volkswagen. He says he only torques the wheel bolts to about 40 ft/lbs as the spec 87 is wayyyy tighter than necessary. Saved my a~~ once when my wheel lock got stolen....


    6. 05-05-2006 04:27 PM #6
      Quote, originally posted by aces »
      My mechanic worked 30 years for volkswagen. He says he only torques the wheel bolts to about 40 ft/lbs as the spec 87 is wayyyy tighter than necessary. Saved my a~~ once when my wheel lock got stolen....

      40 sounds about right, my vw guy says 60.


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      05-05-2006 04:30 PM #7
      From the Bentley bible:
      * lug bolts @ 89 ft-lbs (120 Nm).

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    8. 05-05-2006 04:32 PM #8
      Quote, originally posted by aces »
      My mechanic worked 30 years for volkswagen. He says he only torques the wheel bolts to about 40 ft/lbs as the spec 87 is wayyyy tighter than necessary. Saved my a~~ once when my wheel lock got stolen....

      and i'm sure your mechanic has a knowledge about preload in bolts and the effect of dynamic loading on the wheel bolts that surpasses the engineers at volkswagen. brilliant.


    9. 05-05-2006 04:41 PM #9
      Quote, originally posted by bigmak »
      and i'm sure your mechanic has a knowledge about preload in bolts and the effect of dynamic loading on the wheel bolts that surpasses the engineers at volkswagen. brilliant.

      Sarcasm I don't think I'd be able to feel a difference manually between 60 and 90???


    10. 05-05-2006 04:43 PM #10
      I read somewhere one here that VW specs were 89ft/lb. That's what I have torqued mine to since.

      And don't use a torque wrench to losen bolts. Use the braker bar in the spare wheel well.


      Modified by sixty7mustang22 at 4:44 PM 5-5-2006


    11. 05-05-2006 05:04 PM #11
      Quote, originally posted by sixty7mustang22 »
      I read somewhere one here that VW specs were 89ft/lb. That's what I have torqued mine to since.

      And don't use a torque wrench to losen bolts. Use the braker bar in the spare wheel well.


      Modified by sixty7mustang22 at 4:44 PM 5-5-2006

      To clarify I broke one of these trying to take the wheel bolts off:


    12. 05-05-2006 05:07 PM #12
      Quote, originally posted by Farfrhomdun »
      To clarify I broke one of these trying to take the wheel bolts off:

      use a real breaker bar, not a ratchet.

      notice how the head is not geared in rotation, it's a TON stronger.


    13. 05-05-2006 05:08 PM #13
      Quote, originally posted by Farfrhomdun »

      To clarify I broke one of these trying to take the wheel bolts off:

      OK. That makes me feel better. Torque wrenches aren't cheap.

      Still for future reference to anyone...don't use a torque wrench to lossen bolts.


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      05-05-2006 07:49 PM #14
      Quote, originally posted by aces »
      My mechanic worked 30 years for volkswagen. He says he only torques the wheel bolts to about 40 ft/lbs as the spec 87 is wayyyy tighter than necessary. Saved my a~~ once when my wheel lock got stolen....

      wow, i say go to a different mechanic then...

      I just round mine up to 90ft/lbs...


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      05-05-2006 07:50 PM #15
      Quote, originally posted by Farfrhomdun »

      40 sounds about right, my vw guy says 60.

      again...just like the previous guy...youll need to find a **new** vw guy...


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      05-06-2006 01:34 AM #16
      Quote, originally posted by Farfrhomdun »

      40 sounds about right, my vw guy says 60.

      Really???

      Why does my VW dealer recommend 95 ?

      I've heard of 88 (or 87), but when I mentioned those numbers to the service mgr, he said they can't do that and must tighten to 95.

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    17. 05-06-2006 01:46 AM #17
      so.. anybody coming into this thread (as well as myself) is still asking themselves.. WHAT IS THE RIGHT TORQUE??

      haha, is there a yay or nay? or do i go anywhere from 40-95ft. lbs. thats seems like a fairly wide range for something as important as keeping your wheels on your car.. while you're driving .... fast


    18. 05-06-2006 02:02 AM #18
      all vw's 90 ft lbs..

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      05-06-2006 02:05 AM #19
      Quote, originally posted by VRGetT »
      all vw's 90 ft lbs..

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      05-06-2006 02:05 AM #20
      Quote, originally posted by bluefox280 »
      From the Bentley bible:
      * lug bolts @ 89 ft-lbs (120 Nm).

      - Erik

      READ ERIK'S POST. Overtorqueing lugs is bad. Undertorqueing lugs is bad.


    21. 05-06-2006 02:21 AM #21
      Quote, originally posted by bluebora20v »
      Overtorqueing lugs is bad. Undertorqueing lugs is bad.

      yes, this i know. i was lookin for something a little more than 40ft-lbs and less than 95ft-lbs... again, quite a wide range.

      so yea, i think i'll stick with the manufacturers recommendation, aka: 89ft-lbs


      Modified by Doug_1.8t at 11:23 PM 5-5-2006


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