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    Thread: HID Installation with an Independant Relay

    1. 06-12-2006 08:45 PM #26
      anyone know what to use as the singal wire if your doing this for your fogs

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      06-13-2006 12:30 PM #27
      Misael, your guide says 85 is the ground but on nater's post it states that the 86 was the ground. would it matter? or was it just a typo on nater's part?

    3. 06-13-2006 12:36 PM #28
      Quote, originally posted by 220BoraT »
      Misael, your guide says 85 is the ground but on nater's post it states that the 86 was the ground. would it matter? or was it just a typo on nater's part?

      85 is ground. [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]
      If anyone has their own guide please post them in a different thread so we don't confuse people.

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      06-13-2006 12:39 PM #29
      Quote, originally posted by Misael »
      85 is ground. [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]
      If anyone has their own guide please post them in a different thread so we don't confuse people.

      kewl, thanks. i just wanted that confirmed.

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      06-15-2006 07:18 AM #30
      Quote, originally posted by Misael »
      85 is ground. [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]
      If anyone has their own guide please post them in a different thread so we don't confuse people.

      I have corrected the issue. Apparently, I mixed up 85 & 86 when I did my write-up. Obviously, it was a mistake - otherwise I would have some freaked-out lights.
      And posting it in a different thread would STILL confuse people my friend.
      Thanks to the other poster for bringing that to my attention.

    6. 06-15-2006 05:43 PM #31
      Quote, originally posted by nater »
      I have corrected the issue. Apparently, I mixed up 85 & 86 when I did my write-up. Obviously, it was a mistake - otherwise I would have some freaked-out lights.

      It really doesn't make a lot of difference - it will work either way unless you have a relay with a built in diode.

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      06-15-2006 06:50 PM #32
      Quote, originally posted by dennisgli »
      It really doesn't make a lot of difference - it will work either way unless you have a relay with a built in diode.

      Well then maybe that is the way it's wired up...I don't really care to go sifting through my wiring to figure it out.

      Good stuff.

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      06-17-2006 07:42 PM #33
      Used this DIY today and just wanted to say thanks for writing it up...

    9. 07-06-2006 03:17 AM #34
      [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

    10. 07-11-2006 12:52 AM #35
      my fuse keeps burning out, any ideas

    11. 07-11-2006 01:18 AM #36
      Quote, originally posted by redbora »
      my fuse keeps burning out, any ideas

      where's the fuse coming from? Which wire? And between what?

    12. 07-11-2006 10:19 AM #37
      it's between the relay and the ballasts

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      07-13-2006 10:29 PM #38
      this guide looks great, but just need a definitive answer, since nater's and misael's guide is different in the numbers:

      correct me if this is wrong:
      30 - relay to ballast (15 amp inline fuse)
      85 - ground
      86 - relay to "switched hot lead" (30 amp fuse?)
      87 - relay to battery + (30 amp fuse?)
      thanks in advance for the help guys. [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG] [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]
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    14. 07-13-2006 11:39 PM #39
      That is wrong.
      85 and 86 are normally interchangable and don't matter unless you have a relay with a suppression diode, but just to be consisitent we'll say:
      86: trigger input from switch, or wire that normally goes to the load.
      85: ground
      30: battery (+) connection with suitable gauge wire and fuse capacity to safely operate the load
      87: output going to the load on a suitable gauge wire
      85 and 86 can be 18 gauge wire, or whatever the exisitng wire is. The voltage between them simply energizes the relay, which only takes about 150 milliamps of current.
      When the circuit is ON, the path of electrical current in the load is:
      from Battery (+) > FUSE > pin 30 > pin 87 > load (lamp or ballast) > GROUND > Battery (-)
      You must have the fuse for the overall power draw in the wire from the battery. If the load is actually 2 loads in parallel, you may optionally choose to fuse each output branch individually at half of the main fuse value.

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      07-14-2006 06:21 PM #40
      Quote, originally posted by A2B4guy »
      That is wrong.
      85 and 86 are normally interchangable and don't matter unless you have a relay with a suppression diode, but just to be consisitent we'll say:
      86: trigger input from switch, or wire that normally goes to the load.
      85: ground
      30: battery (+) connection with suitable gauge wire and fuse capacity to safely operate the load
      87: output going to the load on a suitable gauge wire
      85 and 86 can be 18 gauge wire, or whatever the exisitng wire is. The voltage between them simply energizes the relay, which only takes about 150 milliamps of current.
      When the circuit is ON, the path of electrical current in the load is:
      from Battery (+) > FUSE > pin 30 > pin 87 > load (lamp or ballast) > GROUND > Battery (-)
      You must have the fuse for the overall power draw in the wire from the battery. If the load is actually 2 loads in parallel, you may optionally choose to fuse each output branch individually at half of the main fuse value.


      so 86 would be the wire that i would hook to up to the ballast, and do i need a fuse in line on that wire? then 87 would be the wire i hook up to the switched power for the headlights? im learning this electrical stuff little by little here so if i seem dumb sorry
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    16. 07-15-2006 01:00 AM #41
      The wire that you connect to 86 is the wire that used to go to the low beam. No fuse. This turns the relay on.
      87 would be the wire that delivers power to the ballast. If you want to put a 15 amp fuse in that wire, fine.

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      07-15-2006 07:15 AM #42
      Quote, originally posted by kurtanglevr6 »
      this guide looks great, but just need a definitive answer, since nater's and misael's guide is different in the numbers:

      I had a typo in that DIY (sortof) and that's why it differs...I believe I fixed it and changed the thread????? Did I not?
      Either way, click on the link - not on what I cut and pasted into this thread. I fixed the link.

    18. 07-03-2007 03:13 PM #43
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      02-03-2008 04:09 AM #45
      good topic,i'm watching it.

    21. 02-04-2008 03:10 PM #46
      I owned a 05 Jeep GC Limited with autohead headlight and recently converted OEM lights to HID lights and also purchased a HID relay wiring harness from Mobile HID. Installed the relay package and apparently, my head light now is permanently ON/ACTIVE when auto headlight enable or driver manual activate during vehicle engine is running. The light will not turn off auto/manual until the vehicle engine is completely off, at time it will take a minute before the HID goes to off stage. Is this normal? The installation and polarity are all correctly installed according to your's and vendor's websites.
      Please help.

    22. 01-14-2009 04:54 PM #47
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      09-12-2009 07:22 PM #49
      I installed my hids and followed all of the steps. When i finished i turned my car on and the relay was making a buzzing noise and it was vibrating. The lights are also flickering. What did I do wrong? I have a 06 Passat and need to fix this or I can't drive. Some one help!!!


      Modified by volkswagen04 at 4:23 PM 9-12-2009

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      this writeup answered ALOT of questions
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