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    1. Member J. Daniel's Avatar
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      02-24-2010 07:24 AM #201
      Quote, originally posted by BennyB »

      Benny, if that frame is aluminum you're a far better man than I.
      By the time I got done welding that it'd be a completely warped piece of ****.
      Excellent work and the CAD design makes my heart sing. Right up my alley if I was going to attempt something like this.


      Modified by J. Daniel at 7:26 AM 2-24-2010

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      02-24-2010 12:33 PM #202
      Quote, originally posted by laminaytrap »
      Can't believe i haven't seen this one yet, i've looked everywhere for all the rear drive sciroccos. We kicked around the rear engine idea, but no weight over the rear wheels seemed like way more fun. My cad's not as nice as yours though, but i did mine in about 8 hrs while the rest of my house was cadding a Porsche in rhino. lol
      I was gonna post it, but now i'm just embarrassed...

      I wouldn't be embarrased, I have hundreds of hours in my cad model. Are you guys doing a project for school or just something fun?
      Quote, originally posted by polov8 »
      I'm loving this! File all this thread under "DOING IT RIGHT!" [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

      I did the same thing with your thread! There's quite a few really good fabrication threads going in vortex.
      Quote, originally posted by J. Daniel »
      Benny, if that frame is aluminum you're a far better man than I.
      By the time I got done welding that it'd be a completely warped piece of ****.
      Excellent work and the CAD design makes my heart sing. Right up my alley if I was going to attempt something like this.

      Yes, its aluminum. There was alot of swearing involved, and that's just to tack it together. Fortunately, I have a full sleeve of tungsten.
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      02-24-2010 02:31 PM #203
      glad this is still being worked on! [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]
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      02-24-2010 04:16 PM #204
      The Porsche was school project for third year cad, the scirocco was just to get an idea of how much space i could find inside it, i did it from front and side views and any production dimensions i could get my hands on, as i hadn't bought one yet.



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      02-24-2010 04:18 PM #205
      that turbo setup idea looks pretty neat
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      02-24-2010 04:49 PM #206
      Yeah we were looking to pretty much eliminate the runner between the turbo and the intake, rather than running inter coolers.

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      02-24-2010 11:48 PM #207
      You seem pretty savoy in your designs. Maybe you can answer a Q I have for a down pipe from a 93 16V Passat fitting onto the 87' 16V Scirocco. Will it fit under the car bolted on!?
      I like Turbo's
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      02-25-2010 12:15 AM #208
      Quote, originally posted by markeysscirocco »
      You seem pretty savoy in your designs. Maybe you can answer a Q I have for a down pipe from a 93 16V Passat fitting onto the 87' 16V Scirocco. Will it fit under the car bolted on!?

      negative ghost rider, you need a scirocco specific header & downpipe for a 16v.
      in other news this car is sick.
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      02-25-2010 02:26 AM #209
      Quote, originally posted by mr lee »
      in other news this car is sick.

      Oh so True!!!
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      02-27-2010 10:11 PM #210
      Drehkraft is here for the weekend to help!

      Subframe is taking shape. Lots of welding to finish though. Even though I had it all clamped down, it was a struggle to keep the dimensions accurate with all the welding but I managed to compensate.

      I have borrowed my dad's bender now, so I can start on the upper arms.
      Last edited by BennyB; 08-03-2013 at 09:29 AM.

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      02-28-2010 08:17 PM #211
      Nice one. [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]
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    12. 03-01-2010 07:48 AM #212
      very nice.
      going to watch this one.

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      03-02-2010 07:58 PM #213
      Looking good benny, neat to see in person, thanks for the bearings and the dipstick funnel!

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      03-03-2010 10:46 PM #214
      Quote, originally posted by laminaytrap »
      Looking good benny, neat to see in person, thanks for the bearings and the dipstick funnel!

      It's too bad they didn't work out though I'll see if my dad has any short blocks. I know he had a nice 10:1 RD one that was bored 30 over and rebuilt, but I think he sold it.

      Engine and subframe are in place, so I started making the engine mount plates. I wanted them to be able to move longitudinally +/- 5mm since the engine side of the mounts move laterally. So I needed to make something to capture nuts on the bottom side. The plate itself is 1/8" and the U-channel pieces I made on the metal brake with 0.065" plate.


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      03-04-2010 01:08 PM #215
      Whats the plan with the front suspesion?

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      03-04-2010 01:51 PM #216
      For now, I will buy coilover springs to match the low rate I need in the front.
      I'm estimating 50N/mm springs (290lb/in) but it depends on the weight bias I end up with.
      Eventually, I'd like to make a dual wishbone setup up there too.
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      03-04-2010 02:32 PM #217
      Quote, originally posted by BennyB »
      Eventually, I'd like to make a dual wishbone setup up there too.

      something like this?



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      03-04-2010 03:03 PM #218
      Quote, originally posted by BennyB »

      awesome!
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      03-08-2010 09:18 AM #219
      Quote, originally posted by 16VScirrocco88 »
      something like this?

      Yeah, that looks pretty cool. I'd like to see if the lower balljoint has been switched to a spherical. If it's original with the coilover pushing on the arm it could pop the balljoint out on bump. But it could easily be switched to a captured rod-end or spherical the same as on top.
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      03-08-2010 09:47 AM #220
      Engine is mounted and sitting on the pendulum mounts. I forgot to take a picture though!
      Finally got a dogbone mount and into CAD. I got really lucky here, since the length lines up to within 2mm of the lower subframe. So it should be relatively easy to modify the subframe and brace back into the chassis.

      I finished the spindle adapters. Ran into a problem with the original design, since there was too much metal to effectively clamp the balljoint without stripping the pinch bolt. I revised the design by freeing one side of the clamp but leave the other side rigid to the mount.

      I also started making the control arms. I was worried about the inner joint housings warping when welded, but the balljoint still fits perfectly
      Last edited by BennyB; 08-03-2013 at 09:30 AM.

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      03-08-2010 12:34 PM #221
      Awesome stuff! Are those Audi rear hub carriers?

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      03-08-2010 01:06 PM #222
      Quote, originally posted by polov8 »
      Awesome stuff! Are those Audi rear hub carriers?

      They're MK4 VR6/1.8T spindles. I cut off the damper mount/clamp and machined the webs for a straight edge to bolt to.
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      03-08-2010 11:33 PM #223
      Quote, originally posted by 16VScirrocco88 »
      something like this?


      Modified by 16VScirrocco88 at 2:33 PM 3-4-2010

      I don't want to type this out loud but it looks like there is some Honda parts in there...
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      I thought the steps were:
      1. Buy car you're unfamiliar with 2. Buy turbo, having no knowledge of turbos or cars 3. Buy bolts and bolt on turbo 4. Tow-truck drivers and mechanics profit.
      Did I miss anything?

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      03-09-2010 12:36 AM #224
      Quote, originally posted by impulse byer »
      I don't want to type this out loud but it looks like there is some Honda parts in there...

      Don't be, they handle than most VW's and I've never even owned a honda. Go to a track day.

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      03-10-2010 10:36 PM #225
      Finally got one upper arm done and most of the pieces to build the other one. The tubing is 6061 1" dia 1/8" wall. The arm without joints should weigh about 600grams.

      Last edited by BennyB; 08-03-2013 at 09:51 AM.

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