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    Thread: Project Build: sc2020

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      09-08-2006 01:00 PM #26
      hotness! [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]
      "tigers will do anything for a tuna sandwich"

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      09-08-2006 02:07 PM #27
      Dude, can't wait to see this completed! Kick Ass

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      09-14-2006 01:31 AM #28
      Dude, got me jealous, but glad to see we both had the same idea!

    4. 09-14-2006 01:46 AM #29
      must be something in the water down there, we're lazy as balls around here....wish i was down there....palm tree hugers....
      oh the engine looks good in case you needed my approval to continue and not lose sleep at night.... [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]
      Quote Originally Posted by BlueVR View Post

      yes i am still into Vag...

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      09-14-2006 01:54 AM #30
      Do all rocket scientists drive crazy Turbo cars or whatt!
      Yeah I'm usually lazy, speaking for myself, but this guys got good drive, hope to see it at FixxFest!

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      09-14-2006 08:37 AM #31
      Build: Project sc2020

      My G60 now on MS3 | 4Cyl Torque Plate Rental | 02M Mounts

    7. 09-14-2006 10:41 AM #32
      So I take it you're a machinist...
      Nice work man! [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG] [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

    8. 09-14-2006 11:46 AM #33
      More pics!! show me the car that all this is being done for too!
      Great job.....

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      09-14-2006 02:31 PM #34
      Quote, originally posted by SLC Guido »
      More pics!! show me the car that all this is being done for too!
      Great job.....

      Check out the first link at the tippy top of the first thread
      More progress pics will be forth coming. Stay Tuned...
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      09-15-2006 12:43 PM #35
      Been out of town and busy, so no major progress except for spending more money and more circular decisions regarding ignition.
      I have some 16V IM Shaft parts coming Tues, so I will make a Final decision on Dist vs Coil Pack (or COP). If you want to know what I think was the final clincher, you may laugh. I will be running the Timing belt guards and the lower AEB guard will not fit on the 52T IM Shaft Gear for Distrubuter (obviously since the AEB uses a 43T gear like the 9a). It is just one of those things you don't think of until you go to do it. Also, the 43T gear will turn the Oil pump faster, which can't be a bad thing I just want to take the ABA and 9a oil pumps apart to compare and make sure this is nothing I am missing (other than the forked vs splined shaft). I am almost certain the gears are the same size, but want to verify reliefs and such.

      I did get my Vr Lenses and Bezels installed on my ECodes though. All I can say is Flush! The G60 Ecode gaps and steps from Vr grill to fenders really annoyed me. I also have a set of Vr Fogs coming for the RS Front that will house the Precision FMIC.
      Mock pic of the head and belt on (now all subject to change). I also, did not make the tensioner mod yet to affix it (since the stock 20v uses the hydro damper and relay roller).






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      09-21-2006 11:22 PM #36
      I had a few questions about how I was going to modify the 20v Tensioner, so here is my off the cuff ideas.
      1st - If you are not running a Dist and plan on running the 16v/aeb IM shaft 43T gear, then you can simply use the 16v "fixed" type tensioner with the 157T custom belt and call it a day. No need to read on in this post.
      If you are running Dist (Which I was going to), you have to run the only available "correct Tooth belt" at 158T (159T would be perfect) which will not fit with the 16V tensioner. You must use the 20V variant which allows you to use the 158T belt.
      Here are two ideas that I had for mod'ing the 20V tensioner to make it "Fixed" instead of the hydro self-adjusting. Even though I am not running dist, I may still use the 20v type pictured and "affix it" as shown.
      Option #1
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      Option #2



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      09-22-2006 11:37 AM #37
      Thoroughly Jealous, Shawn.

    13. 09-22-2006 01:43 PM #38
      Quote, originally posted by bulldog2.G »
      Thoroughly Jealous, Shawn.

      X2. But at least now I know I can handle him around a golf course.
      Did you ever get that thing I mailed to you?
      I never heard back...

    14. 09-23-2006 07:27 PM #39
      Mailed to bulldog2.g. Did you see who I replied too noob
      {Yes, it was confusing, I realize this...}

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      09-23-2006 07:29 PM #40
      Quote, originally posted by leebro61 »
      Mailed to bulldog2.g. Did you see who I replied too noob

      The Barley and Hops were clouding my cognitive skills
      BTW: That is what PMs are for n00b
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    16. 09-23-2006 07:37 PM #41
      Figured I'd kill two birds with one post

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      09-23-2006 08:12 PM #42
      I love the pics with the red scribble text.
      Great post BTW.

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      10-11-2006 09:24 AM #43
      Update?
      R.I.P Barbaro
      I'm all for a clean car, and lowering for performance reasons, decent wheels, etc... but this "stance" crap sucks.
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      lol wut? You can have the baddest carbon brakes straight of an Enzo, it doesn't mean jack **** when your contact patch is 1/3 the size it would otherwise be, and partially the sidewall

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      10-11-2006 12:24 PM #44
      sorry, I have been very busy here on the text reading your updates and googling, thus no time to work on mine
      Actually I have made some progress of sorts. I ordered a crap load of misc parts, factory bolts, studs, elec connectors etc that should be here any day.
      In addition, I took the 9a and ABA oil pumps apart to compare the internals, and as suspected, everything is interchangeable. The only difference is the Splined drive shaft on the 9a as opposed to the Forked one on the ABA. I will show some pics just for the heck of it.
      So the definite plan "now" is to run the 60-2 trigger on MSnS-e as opposed to Dist. So, I am going to swap out the Modified ABA IM shaft and Cog for the 9a. Didn't put the oil pump in or pan on yet, so this is no biggie.
      I have also been trying to decipher whether the 60-2 pickup I have from the ABA that I have will play nicely with MS. Seems to be some conflicting info out there and I don't own a scope.
      I have also been doing some wiring or sorts Hooking up a new Tig in my garage and honing my skills. Lots of stuff to put this to good use on!
      Shawn




      Modified by sdezego at 6:31 PM 1-2-2007
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    20. 10-11-2006 01:44 PM #45
      That's a hell of a tig you got there buddy. Must have paid for that by hustling chumps like me on the golf course
      Get your practice on because I might need to come over and do some fabrimicating in a few weeks [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

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      10-11-2006 02:04 PM #46
      Quote, originally posted by sdezego »
      se the 20V variant which allows you to use the 158T belt.
      Here are two ideas that I had for mod'ing the 20V tensioner to make it "Fixed" instead of the hydro self-adjusting. Even though I am not running dist, I may still use the 20v type pictured and "affix it" as shown.

      Just use a 16v tensioner with a standard bolt and 3 washers to space it out to keep in line with your timing gear. Thats how I did mine. It's simple, easy, and works great.

      btw this is for my mk1 thus you have to use the 16v tensioner but not sure why you would want to mess with the other ideas. Not that they wouldn't work but it just seems like more work for the same result.
      Keep up the sweet work though!

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      10-11-2006 02:39 PM #47
      You have pictured an internal Waterpump and a short block and therfore there are numerous OEM VW belts. For the ABA (Tall Block) Running Dist, there is no belt that will fit using the 16V tensioner (OEM or custom cut). 159T would be perfect and would allow the use of the 16V tensioner, but there is no such belt. So, you must use a 158T which requires the use of the modified 20v tensioner
      Edit: No Belt with the Correct Tooth Profile. Nice setup BTW!
      S


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      10-26-2006 04:23 PM #48
      very slow progress. Too many other projects and such, but should have the rest of the bottom end buttoned up tonight.
      in the mean time here are some pic of the Oil Pump.
      In case anyone is planning on changing directions Mid stream as I did (Dist vs COP or WS) or in case you just enjoy saving a few $s, here is a tip.
      If you plan on running the 16v Oil pump drive Gear and dist block off setup you can swap the Shafts from an old 9a oil Pump into the much less expensive ABA oil pump. I don't think the 16v PL has the recess notch on the Oil pump shaft becuase it does not have clearance issues as the 2Liters do, but irregardless.
      Pics tell the story. oh, yea, you MUST have a press!
      Click pics to enlarge:



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      11-04-2006 08:48 PM #49
      Another week out of town on business, but made some progress in the machine shop today. Here is my way of modifying the ABA serp pulley for the wider 16v/20v belt.
      - Total cut was ~5.8mm
      - .001" press fit
      - perfectly eccentric and uses stock crank centering
      - perfectly balanced
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      11-24-2006 02:09 AM #50
      nice stuff [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

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