Pittsburgh chicks rock, Ive been trying to get these two girls to pose in front of my fox, hopefully in Bikinis!
They are almost on board, almost!
At anyrate, Im loving the car, and great pictures!!!
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This reminds me of the overkill gas piston I installed on my BMW hood. I couldn't find one that fit so I made a new botom bracket for it and when I would pop the hood from inside the car while stopping it would go all the way up which was pretty sweet. Pretty much all I needed was a fog machine and an air compressor in the car and It would be complete.
Had the car up on the rack at work checking everything over, noticed my front struts were blown. Well after a little contemplation off came the struts, then the springs. I did a little math, and pulled out the cutting wheel. Figured the struts were pre- blown so why not. I cut roughly 3 coils out of the front springs (back is stock). Nice rake, pictures do no justice at all, (looks a lot lower in person ill take some better ones some time, note: stock 175/70 13, cell phone is very small, and on slight angle, VW bug on tire is about 2x the size of a matchbox car). All I can say is don’t bash it till you try it. This is my 2nd car with cut springs and I am happy with the results. I still have ample suspension travel, the springs seat correctly, and the ride is nice. No the ride is not as nice as the last car (H&R/KYB combo) but its not bad at all, and very predictable handling not erratic at all. A little bouncy over the bumps, but not bad. better than some cars I have been in with aftermarket lowering springs and stock struts.
I really feel if you do the proper calculations, cut in the right place you will be pleasantly surprised with the results. Remember, do the calculations, cut for spring rate, not ride height. This setup most likely is only temporary, im working on a set of custom coil over sleeves with custom springs, with a set of modified (shortened length) struts. (Side project at my local auto spring shop).
Wow, that looks pretty cool. If you got the rear down to the same level as the front, the car would look Great.
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those hubcaps look great...and definitely thumbs up for the paintmatched spoiler! looks slick...cute girl too Looks great as always...
Previously owned: 90 Jetta GTX (GLI), 88 Fox wagon, 88 Fox coupe, 87 Fox coupe, plus about 20 non-VW cars, trucks and motorbikes.
Current: 93 Ford Escort wagon, lowered 2" with a bunch of suspension goodies (in Canada), 97 Kia Sephia, bone stock (in South Korea)
It's a one of a kind dazzler! Love the roof rack! Where did you get all your ideas? You must sit up half the night thinking Fox design - it's all a great job! If you are happy that's all that matters! It's going to bring down the house at Crooked Euros!
Thanks! I dont know where the ideas come from realy, I just like my own style, somthing diffrent and what ever come to mind ill do it, some things take more time than others but in the end it all comes together... I only work on the car 2 days a week (all i have time for in the schedule w/ work and school) Its working out, I have had the car for less than 5 months started working on it the day I drove it home...
i will say that does look nice. the rake that is. so thats 3 coils? hmmm i wonder how low 2 or even 1 is? i'm looking to keep my a daily driver.
ps nice red head indeed. to bad no girls down here like foxes... i don't get it how all you guys find girls that like your CARS?!?!?!?! anyway that was a short rant back to the NICE RAKE!!!!
This is also a dally driver (adv 250 miles a week) and believe me PA is full of hills, bumps, and pot holes. So far I am doing just fine, no issues with hitting anything vital under the car, just the air dam. The fox appears to sit a little higher than most cars to begin with, even with the drop the oil pan, sub frame, and all other vital parts are still safe. You, being in FL flat as can be, could go even lower with out an issue. IMO 1 coil would not do much of anything not worth the effort, and 2 coils would be somewhere in the middle of stock and my ride height.
well we have holes and bumps also but hills are man made down here. how often do you rub the air dam? i think i might go with 2 maybe 3 but i also work on a dirt road. i'll post when i do it. it might be as soon as this weekend . oh and going lower like 4 coils what about the tie rods? woun't they bottem out on the fram hole thingy?
Any variation in the road bigger than about 3” (bump, or hole) I hit the air dam. So around my part of town, I hit just about every 30sec. I also travel on a dirt/rock road (if you want to call it a road, it’s an old logging trail) 2 miles to my girlfriends house. This is very harsh terrain dips and bumps 6”+ if you go slow and over them in the right manner your fine, air dam is grinding along the entire way, but nothing vital even close to hitting. [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG] As for 4 coils, don’t do it. From what I can recall I think the spring is only 7 or 8 coils to start with, so 4 will leave you with no suspension travel, and a big risk of the spring becoming un seated while driving . No issue with the tie rods, lots of room. Also if you cut, I would recommend doing a front end alignment. Lots of info out there on how to DIY with some simple household tools, save some $$. I did mine on a machine, my lower ball joint is adjusted inward almost the entire way (another thing to think of, camber, you may run into issues if you go lower then 3 coils)… Have fun! P.S I made the strut tool using a 14mm socket, worked great
Modified by oRANGEJULIUS at 4:47 PM 10-18-2006
Had a little time this weekend to mess around with the car. I switched over to the GM Synchromesh fluid ( Without friction modifiers) in the transmission, and I can honestly say it shifts smoother, I would recommend it. (I used a lug bolt welded to a 5/8" socket for the plugs, works great)
The rake was beginning to bug me so I decided to drop the back as well. I cut 5 coils from the back, and rolled the arches. It rubs a little on the bumps 185/70/13, but the 175/70/13 summer treads should fix that. I also cut another 1/2 coil form the front. This brings me about as close as I can get to my lowering goal. I'm happy with the stance now, and it still rides rather well, a little bouncy but predictable and safe.
Next I want to widen the wheel arches about 2.5" (at existing angle, as to bring them down over the tire) As for wheels im sticking with the painted rabbit hub caps, and im going with white wall tires.
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Modified by oRANGEJULIUS at 7:19 PM 11-12-2006
So you cut 5 in the rear and 3 1/2 in the front? just curious how are you holding the springs in the perches. They will fall out of the perches cut that low. i used a set of limiting straps to keep the strut from expanding all the way out and taking all the tension off the short spring.
Not the best way but, all I did was tack weld the spring to the lower perch. So if it were to over extend atleast it will be around the right spot when the car comes back down. I have been over some big dips and so fourth, and have yet to have the suspension extend beyond the springs limits. How did you set up your limit straps? Where did you attach them? Pics would be great, mite go that route until I switch to the coil overs. Once the coil overs are done ( side project at the shop) we are shortening a set of struts and re threading the shafts as to eliminate the issue. Also thinking about using a set of air shocks, shorting them, and modifying them to work with the fox to avoid the obvious issues with the fluid struts.
You are about to hit the B1,B2 and Bx's major limitation suspension wise. The steering arm on the strut housing. Since you seem to be the adventurous type, you might try to shorten the housings "Brazil Style" by removing much of the distance between the steering arm and the knuckle. I don't think any one around here ('tex) has tried that yet.
What sort of angle are your control arms at? While I realize that handling is not your ultimate goal, too much past parallel will result in crazy bump steer.