BFI HD MK3 and Rado VR6 Motor Mounts

[black forest ind]

We offer a complete line of performance motor mounts for all Mk3 and Corrado SLC. Our line of Full Poly mounts is unlike any other poly options available. They are machined from extruded stock, not gravity cast. This results in both a more uniform product as well as a more durable one.

Be aware that the different motors will react differently to the stages. The ABA both weighs less and is positioned differently than the VR6. In general, the ABA will experience more vibration than the VR6 with the same mounts.

The hardware provided is grade 10.9 which is much stronger than the stock bolts, those of which are prone to breakage due to age and especially with harder mounts.

All mounts are available as kits or individual pieces. If ordering a single mount or piece, please specify front, rear, or upper to make sure you get the correct hardware.


BFI Stealth Series Motor Mount Complete Kit



These mounts are specifically engineered to fall in between new factory mounts and our popular .5 Mounts. Shore hardness is 50A - For comparison, the OEM mounts are around 40-45A in holey hardness. These are constructed from extruded stock polyurethane and are NOT made from rubber like the factory pieces.
This will ensure an extremely long product life that will not break down like rubber, while still giving added performance with factory-like comfort preserved. Included in the complete kit is a G60 solid rubber transmission mount. Stealth Mounts are Ideal for those that want improved upgrade mounts for performance without sacrificing interior vibration levels on both VR6 and 4-cylinder models.
Complete kit w/trans (5pcs w/hardware)


BFI Stage .5 Polyurethane Motor Mount Complete Kit



These are poly, 60A in shore hardness. They are softer than both our Stage I poly(85A) and Stage II Delrin mounts . These mounts are still a huge upgrade over the stock swiss-cheese rubber mounts.
We developed these mounts for those wanting an upgrade in both performance and durability over the OEM parts, yet were still very concerned with daily comfort. For comparison, the OEM mounts are around 40-45A hardness. These mounts will provide an almost factory level of comfort in VR6 cars while offering both an increase in performance and greatly increased level of durability. Vibration is more evident in 4-cylinder models.
Complete Kit w/trans (5pcs w/hardware)


BFI Stage 1 Polyurethane Motor Mount Complete Kit



These are poly, 85A in shore hardness. For comparison, the OEM mounts are around 40-45A hardness. BFI Stage 1’s are a huge upgrade over the stock swiss-cheese rubber mounts. Stage I is intended for a higher level of performance, over our Stage .5 and Stealth.
They still offer reasonable ride quality, with some increased vibration over OEM in VR6 cars. Vibration is far more evident in 4-cylinder models.
Complete Kit w/trans (5pcs w/hardware)


BFI Stage 2 Delrin Complete Motor Mount Kit



These are Delrin, and fall in between poly and solid metal as far as stiffness goes. Delrin, like some poly versions, requires some break in time. It will take 150-250 miles for them to soften to their effective hardness. They also require some heat in them to soften up. And on colder days they may have more vibration at start up until driven on for a few miles. They are also self-lubricating so it will never squeak.
The Stage 2 mounts are designed for pure performance, at the expense of ride comfort. They will hold the motor and transmission very securely and help get all the power to the ground. If you drag race or are after total performance, then the Stage II is for you. If you are concerned about vibration, then perhaps you may want to go with a less rigid mount from BFI.
Complete kit w/trans (5pcs w/hardware)


Please post, IM, or email us at: sales@blackforestindustries.com with any Technical Questions

[BiSiE]

is the front and read different height on stage1 kit?

I bought that + tranny mount and my motor sits crooked, is it ok to cut the rear one a little bit? How much should I take out?

Thank you

[schippa2]

I got the Stage 1s all around, and I like them

It's not a huge difference because my mounts weren't bad to begin with, but it's definitely tightened up a bit, and shifting into 3rd, 4th, and 5th has actually improved noticeably which made it completely worth it for me. Clutch engagement seems more consistent somehow too.

In case anyone wants to know about the vibrations, they really do need a few weeks to settle down, and it can be very harsh at first. After a week it's the most noticeable right off the line and around 2600 rpm for me. Engine's a little louder too. I'm already used to it.

[zander]

Will these mounts work with a MKII swapped VR?

[black forest ind]

These are designed specifically for MKIII, Corrado VR6 applications. We have seen them used in MK2 VR6 but that would be at your discretion.

[BiSiE]

Quote, originally posted by zander »

Will these mounts work with a MKII swapped VR?

they worked for me, but like i said the motor sits crooked. it seems like the rear motor mount need cutting down. I'm trying to find out how much to cut them though so i don't have to pull the motor 10 times...
I used mk3 subframe and rad support. Another option would be to try corrado subframe, supposedly makes the rear of the motor sit lower

[Tire_Marx]

Quote, originally posted by BiSiE »

they worked for me, but like i said the motor sits crooked. it seems like the rear motor mount need cutting down. I'm trying to find out how much to cut them though so i don't have to pull the motor 10 times... I used mk3 subframe and rad support. Another option would be to try corrado subframe, supposedly makes the rear of the motor sit lower

roughly 1/4 inch makes it slightly canted still, but clears the hood nicely.

[SpaceHamster]

Just to ensure, will these fit a 1996 Vr6 Passat?
Thinking about getting these, I have heard they work wonders.

[black forest ind]

The mounts themselves will work, although the hardware kit is intended for MKIII, Corrado VR6 only.

[BiSiE]

Quote, originally posted by Tire_Marx »

roughly 1/4 inch makes it slightly canted still, but clears the hood nicely.

is it safe to keep cutting it until the motor is leveled? any complications from this?

[mk3_vdub]

which stage would be comparable to the vf engineering mounts....(2?) i have vf front and rear and am in need of a trans mount... thinking about one of these instead of vf's....

also...do you sell the trans mounts separately? pricing?

[black forest ind]

The transmission mounts are all listed seperately on our website HERE

The Stage 1 would be the most comparable.

[Tire_Marx]

Quote, originally posted by BiSiE »

is it safe to keep cutting it until the motor is leveled? any complications from this?

no clue. i removed 1/4 inch, and then called it a day

[MarkGolf]

HI,

I've got a 3.0 s/c Golf 3.. Its already got an uprated front mount but brand new OE rear and gearbox mount..

I want to keep the new rear mount but want one of these gearbox mounts.. What one is recommended, I do not want excessive vibration but want it to perform better than OE?

So how much for plug and play gearbox mount and shipping to U.K?

Thanks

[black forest ind]

We do not ship outside of North America unfortunately. JustMatz is about to begin distributing our products in the UK but we are still working on the details.

[ATL_VR6]

Will you sell custom height mounts? I'll probably have to get custom made bolts, etc.

A 1/2 inch more height on the motor means a 1/2 inch lower I can sit my ride

-Kyle

[black forest ind]

sent you an im

[jhayesvw]

ive had the stage 2 setup for way over a year it seems. ( i truly can not remember).

good stuff.

[AmerBrakic]

Quote, originally posted by black forest ind »

The mounts themselves will work, although the hardware kit is intended for MKIII, Corrado VR6 only.

Corrado only? Not for a Golf?

[black forest ind]

MKIII is a golf, jetta, or cabrio

[AmerBrakic]

Quote, originally posted by black forest ind »

MKIII is a golf, jetta, or cabrio

oh.. lol.. haha ok yeah i guess i didn't know that

[BiSiE]

just to confirm, vr6 mk2 jetta, with mk3 subframe(s), all stage 1 mounts (including transmission).

to level the motor, we had to cut 1/4 inch from the rear engine mount.

can't comment on drivability/vibration yet - still in the shop...

[WannabeVWguy]

Bought complete stage 2 in january of 2006....its now december of 2006 and over 15000kms on them including track days

NO PROBLEMS WITH MOTOR HEIGHT OR ANYTHING BREAKING

best mod i've ever done to the car period. motor isnt crooked and the car feels rediculously solid

[7797]

Stage 1 just ordered!

[BiSiE]

Quote, originally posted by WannabeVWguy »

Bought complete stage 2 in january of 2006....its now december of 2006 and over 15000kms on them including track days NO PROBLEMS WITH MOTOR HEIGHT OR ANYTHING BREAKING best mod i've ever done to the car period. motor isnt crooked and the car feels rediculously solid

vibration?

[rushtillyoudie]

how much is for front engine mount and trans mount for gti vr6?

[black forest ind]

Prices are in the first post, and on the website

[BiSiE]

Ok I finally got to drive mine (Mk2-Vr6) with full stage1 set (including tranny) It feels amazing! and I have to say Vibration is minimal.

[dossantos25]

Quote, originally posted by BiSiE »

vibration?

ive been in WannabeVWguys car and its not that bad, i just installed the comeplete Delrin kit as well and i just had the car idling and revving while sitting and although there is slight vibration, the engine doesnt move PERIOD ... these are VWs not high end luxury cars so i dont mind a bit of vibrations, but its hardly enough to ripple liquid in a cup in your cupholder.

[BiSiE]

IM Sent for Trans Mount Stage2

[DertiJerzi]

Can anyone confirm or deny that the st1 or st2's will raise the height of the motor up slightly, and give more ground clearance ?

[black forest ind]

If your stock mounts are old and have collapsed with new mounts, ours or others, the motor will sit higher than it did but the same as it would with new OEM mounts

[vee arr six]

I have stage 1's all the way around including the tranny mount. I would recomend replacing all the mounts at once because the stage 1's were too much for the 'heavy duty' rado mount causing it pop. Also, after the mounts were installed i noticed my motor sitting slightly higher than before, it actually would hit the underside of my hood when i would start to slam gears causing it to dent. After i installed the stage 1 tranny mount about 3 weeks ago i noticed that my tranny sounded like it was whinning, but apparently thats normal if you put a solid tranny mount on a VR. I love the way my VR drives now, it feels very solid, and as my friends say 'feels like a go-cart' cause of the mild vibration.

[Tire_Marx]

so a few nights ago, the girl said "i like the vibrations!"

thats in a stage one. and yes, it was vibrating pretty good. but then again, it was almost -40

[VR6rocks]

How do the stage 1 vibrate compared the the vf mounts?
I am currently on the turn2 front mount which needs to make way for a complete set.
The only problem I can see now is that you don't ship outside NA. Any chances for this to change anytime soon?