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    Thread: TT BUYERS GUIDE - For those looking to buy a used mk1 TT

    1. 11-14-2006 11:29 AM #1
      I wanted to share this for those few of you looking to buy a used TT. Adjust accordingly as my local labor rates are now $110/hr. Check KBB.com for realistic prices!!


      In addition to the article, here is a list of areas to check!
      * Driver seat left bolster for excessive wear
      * Under the front and rear bumper for damage from curb stops
      * Door sills for damage from people climbing in and out of car
      * Speaker grills and bottom of door card for same damage
      * Correct function of windows
      * Missing lines on guage FIS, correct guage function, etc
      * Correct function of the radio, all speakers and 6 disc changer
      * Sufficient torque - this can be checked with VAG COM, from the factory these cars have certain torque ratings (170 - 210 depending on model). When there is a significant drop in this number, the car will not perform as it should. This is caused by excessive carbon buildup in the head, or similar issues. Carbon buildup IS a common problem, so be wise before making a purchase as it is NOT covered by any warranties!

      model year change guide(not complete covers only info in the road and track article)
      2000
      only available as a coupe
      180-bhp engine
      FWD or AWD
      Optional packages:
      Comfort=heated seats
      Audio=Bose sound system
      Performance= 17inch alloys and xenon headlights

      2001
      Roadster becomes available manual or power operation avail
      225-bhp edition w/ 6 speed manual becomes avail
      Baseballs stitched leather avail on roadster
      225 avail only in quattro, coupe or roadster
      Quattro avail on 180-bhp coupe model
      FWD avail on 180-bhp model only
      ESP becomes standard instead of optional as in 2000
      Comfort and performance packages combined to for premium package
      GPS nav optional

      2002
      Standard audio system becomes a CD player instead of cassette player
      **ALMS special edition avail

      Quote »
      http://www.canadiandriver.com/...s.htm
      **18 inch Audi 9 spoke RS wheels (in 5x100 bolt pattern)
      **Misuno Red OR Avus Silver Pearl
      **Silver Nappa leather in red ALMS
      **Brilliant Red Nappa leather in silver ALMS
      **Door cards, knee bolster, seats and steering wheel had matching leather.
      **All had 225 hp 6 speed haldex (not traditional quattro)

      2003
      6 speed tiptronic made avail
      models simplified as such:
      180-bhp avail only in FWD auto tranny, coupe or roadster
      225-bhp avail in quattro w/ 6 sp manual and optional 18in alloys
      not sure where the tiptronic fits into this as it is not specified

      2004
      V-6 version made avail
      DSG wih paddle shift made avail
      coverage stops there

      Engine Differences
      Very different engine guys with the 180-bhp getting a big
      unless you just love FWD cars and want to buy something for your daughter or wife that doesn't know how to drive and wants something cute(no offense)
      -both get about the same gas mileage 20-22 city and 28-31 highway
      -225 has a stronger crankshaft
      -225 has one additional intercooler
      -different intake and exhaust manifolds
      -225 has upgraded pistons and rods
      -225 had a larger turbo
      -225 is at least a second faster 0-60 according to audi at 6.3 seconds

      Here is a link for the HVAC codes, and how to check them:
      http://www.audiworld.com/tech/int6.shtml
      A note on TT "quattro"
      The Mk1 TT did not use the traditional Audi quattro system; it uses the Haldex all wheel drive system. (This is the same system used in the VW R32 and some Volvos.) From what I have read, due to the transversely mounted engine in the TT, space requirements precluded the use of the Quattro system. As the Haldex drivetrain has seen upwards of 600 horsepower (HPA twin turbo R32), it seems to be a fairly stout system!!

      This is the audiworld forums- they already have a sticky for TT FAQ's:
      http://forums.audiworld.com/tt/msgs/1389261.phtml
      I'm sure plenty of experienced TT guys know of this site, but it has been VERY useful to a noob like myself!
      http://www.wak-tt.com/
      (links to the UK TT enthusiasts page there)
      Another useful resource (Scot's TT page):
      http://www.ttguy.com/
      Audi TT Club of America
      http://www.audittcca.com
      Haldex homepage (english):
      http://haldex-traction.com/default.htm


      Helpful Links for just about anything TT... "TT Goodies"
      http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7srd4/Audi_TT.html
      Used TT Price Guide.
      http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=2959771


      Audi CPO locator.
      http://www.audiusa.com/audi/us...d.htx

      Audi CPO Warranty transfer details: Contrary to all the rumors floating around about cpo warranties, I have the real info here. The warranty is transferable, even if the car is not purchased from Audi. The warranty is good for 100,000 miles or 6 years from the original sale date. There is a transfer fee of $150.

      In an envelope, mail:
      VIN
      Mileage at time of the sale
      Transfer Date (current)
      Name, Phone, Address
      A Check or money order for $150 payable to: Audi of America

      Audi Certified Preowned Warranty Department
      Mail Code: 3A02
      3200 Hamlin Rd.
      Auburn Hills, Michigan, 48326-9919




      Modified by vaultpsu at 10:04 AM 1-17-2008


    2. 11-14-2006 06:16 PM #2
      article is less than 1 year old.
      I have that mag

    3. 11-14-2006 09:12 PM #3
      thanks for posting....
      I'm about to buy a used TT
      and learned a little bit.

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      11-15-2006 02:12 AM #4
      the august 2006 issue has this buyers guide in it

    5. 11-15-2006 09:39 AM #5
      August 2006?? heh I had this when I bought my TT in July and just assumed it was older because of the cars listed and the labor rates... my bad!! Still a good reference to post!! If anyone else has anything to add to this post concerning buying a used TT, please post it and I will compile everything useful in the OP. Thanks guys!

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      11-15-2006 10:32 AM #6
      vaultpsu- new material in this post!
      Quote, originally posted by vaultpsu »
      If anyone else has anything to add to this post concerning buying a used TT, please post it and I will compile everything useful in the OP. Thanks guys!

      Good idea!
      My wife & I have been looking at TT's for months, but haven't decided on one yet. Some of the typical spots we check:
      Driver seat left bolster for excessive wear
      Under the front and rear bumper for damage from curb stops
      Door sills for damage from people climbing in and out of car
      (also speaker grills and bottom of door card for same damage)
      ALLLL the typical TT maladies- window issues, gauge cluster problems, etc
      On our next test drive I am going to print out the instructions to get codes from HVAC controls, and check all those readouts as well.
      Here is a link for the HVAC codes, and how to check them:
      http://www.audiworld.com/tech/int6.shtml
      A note on TT "quattro"
      The Mk1 TT did not use the traditional Audi quattro system; it uses the Haldex all wheel drive system. (This is the same system used in the VW R32 and some Volvos.) From what I have read, due to the transversely mounted engine in the TT, space requirements precluded the use of the Quattro system. As the Haldex drivetrain has seen upwards of 600 horsepower (HPA twin turbo R32), it seems to be a fairly stout system!!
      Haldex homepage (english):
      http://haldex-traction.com/default.htm



      Modified by andylyco at 10:31 AM 11-17-2006
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    7. 11-15-2006 10:51 AM #7
      updated!! thanks!

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      11-15-2006 12:55 PM #8
      model year change guide(not complete covers only info in the road and track article)

      2000
      only available as a coupe
      180-bhp engine
      FWD or AWD
      Optional packages:
      Comfort=heated seats
      Audio=Bose sound system
      Performance= 17inch alloys and xenon headlights

      2001
      Roadster becomes available manual or power operation avail
      225-bhp edition w/ 6 speed manual becomes avail
      Baseballs stitched leather avail on roadster
      225 avail only in quattro, coupe or roadster
      Quattro avail on 180-bhp coupe model
      FWD avail on 180-bhp model only
      ESP becomes standard instead of optional as in 2000
      Comfort and performance packages combined to for premium package
      GPS nav optional

      2002
      Standard audio system becomes a CD player instead of cassette player
      ALMS special edition avail

      2003
      6 speed tiptronic made avail
      models simplified as such:
      180-bhp avail only in FWD auto tranny, coupe or roadster
      225-bhp avail in quattro w/ 6 sp manual and optional 18in alloys
      not sure where the tiptronic fits into this as it is not specified

      2004
      V-6 version made avail
      DSG wih paddle shift made avail
      coverage stops there

      Engine Differences
      Very different engine guys with the 180-bhp getting a big
      unless you just love FWD cars and want to buy something for your daughter or wife that doesn't know how to drive and wants something cute(no offense)
      -both get about the same gas mileage 20-22 city and 28-31 highway
      -225 has a stronger crankshaft
      -225 has one additional intercooler
      -different intake and exhaust manifolds
      -225 has upgraded pistons and rods
      -225 had a larger turbo
      -225 is at least a second faster 0-60 according to audi at 6.3 seconds


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      11-15-2006 01:44 PM #9
      Quote, originally posted by one swell foop »

      2002
      Standard audio system becomes a CD player instead of cassette player
      ALMS special edition avail

      To add to this, since we have been looking at the 2002 ALMS...
      A good write up on the ALMS (canadian spec):
      http://www.canadiandriver.com/...s.htm
      Some main points:
      Only available in 2002
      18 inch Audi 9 spoke RS wheels (in 5x100 bolt pattern)
      Misuno Red OR Avus Silver Pearl
      Silver Nappa leather in red ALMS
      Brilliant Red Nappa leather in silver ALMS
      Door cards, knee bolster, seats and steering wheel had matching leather.
      All had 225 hp 6 speed haldex (not traditional quattro)


      A caveat- Every ALMS I've seen has been fully loaded with heated seats and mirrors, automatic climate control, Bose speakers, 6 disc changer, homelink garage door opener, tilt AND telescope steering wheel, electronic trip computer, and xenon headlights. I have read conflicting reports as to whether the ALMS was fully optioned, or if the navigation system was the only option.
      Can anyone shed any light on this for me?


      Modified by andylyco at 1:46 PM 11-15-2006

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    10. 11-15-2006 01:53 PM #10
      updated.

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      11-17-2006 03:01 AM #11
      hey mods, can we make this a sticky? when i started looking at getting a TT i went looking all over the internet for a thread like this. This is the consolidation of what it would take weeks of research to find for oneself, and there were things listed in road and track's guide that i heard nothing about during my couple months of research. please make this as easy to find as possible!

    12. 11-17-2006 07:21 AM #12
      Quote, originally posted by one swell foop »
      hey mods, can we make this a sticky? when i started looking at getting a TT i went looking all over the internet for a thread like this. This is the consolidation of what it would take weeks of research to find for oneself, and there were things listed in road and track's guide that i heard nothing about during my couple months of research. please make this as easy to find as possible!

      yeah I had the same problem, and actually got burned on a few of these things listed, luckily MOST but not all have been covered under warranty.


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      11-17-2006 09:47 AM #13
      More useful links:

      This is the audiworld forums- they already have a sticky for TT FAQ's:
      http://forums.audiworld.com/tt/msgs/1389261.phtml
      I'm sure plenty of experienced TT guys know of this site, but it has been VERY useful to a noob like myself!
      http://www.wak-tt.com/
      (links to the UK TT enthusiasts page there)
      Another useful resource (Scot's TT page):
      http://www.ttguy.com/
      Audi TT Club of America
      http://www.audittcca.com
      Haldex homepage (english):
      http://haldex-traction.com/default.htm





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    14. 11-17-2006 10:23 AM #14
      Thanks! updated... I hope the mods dont get pissed for linking to other forums.. hehe

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      11-17-2006 10:30 AM #15
      Quote, originally posted by vaultpsu »
      I hope the mods dont get pissed for linking to other forums.. hehe
      Bollocks on them if they do!
      If we had a proper buyers guide sticky, we wouldn't have to link to the other, lesser forums!
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    16. 11-17-2006 12:38 PM #16
      Quote, originally posted by andylyco »
      Bollocks on them if they do!
      If we had a proper buyers guide sticky, we wouldn't have to link to the other, lesser forums!

      I'll try and compile some of the data from the other forums when i get a chance... probably not until late next week

      If anyone wants to take that task on, go right ahead!


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      11-17-2006 06:58 PM #17
      Thanks everyone for information, as I am also in the market of used
      TTQ Coupe. I just tested one off the lot (2002, Silver TTQ, 6spd) and
      felt it was way heavier, perhaps *slower* because of carbon build up
      mentioned up there. As I previously owned GTI 1.8T and currently own
      R32 3.2L with the same Haldex system, I imagine TT would be peppy
      1.8T with K04 (good enough performance) + good roadmanner (AWD),
      but in reality, it wasn't. I will keep watching this thread and all points
      mentioned here to make final decision.

      for informative/helpful topic like this.


    18. 11-18-2006 10:27 PM #18
      I will put in my .02 as a proponent FOR the FWD 180 hp TT.IMO this is THE BEST if you are going to upgrade for higher HP,you can have the most bang for the buck with this car.
      The Quattro is a great car,no doubt,however =with time they tend to have lots of creaks and moans from the rear end bushings,and the extra weight/complexity of a 4wd system makes this car MUCH more $$$ to service /repair in regards to ownership,maintenace...
      The 180HP FWD shares transmission and rear setup with a VW Golf/Jetta,and parts are cheap/interchangeable.......FOR EXAMPLE;
      stage 2 clutch AND flywheel is $375.00,where a 02M will be in the 1K+ range for similar parts,blow a tranny??Try 500-1K for FWD,vs. 2K-3K for Quattro 02M.....
      Blow a Haldex unit??Big $$$,blow a 225 motor?Big $$,180 HP motor
      will swap wih many VW 1.8T
      If you live in the snow belt and can use quattro,more power to you,but for simplicity and oerall reliabilty,my TT FWD has been utterly flawless!
      When I was looking for a TT,I specifically looked for a FWD 180 since I knew I would be heavily modding it.......Even for upgrade turbo,you have to drop engine/tranny/subframe,on 180 Hp,just unbolt the turbo!


      Modified by VWAUDITECH at 7:34 PM 11-18-2006

    19. 11-18-2006 10:30 PM #19
      Here it is,"only" a FWD 180 but still faster than 99% of the 225TT's you will come accross!!
      http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=2765496

    20. 11-19-2006 10:34 AM #20
      So what makes a FWD TT stand out from a gti or jetta? IMO the luxury of the car is that things that it has that separate it from the other cars in the VAG group. I dont compare a 180 to a 225q at all, besides the styling, and I certainly dont consider it better... its just a different car. My heavily modded 337 was considerably faster than my stock 225q but I would never go back, driving a fwd and driving a awd are two different experiences, and i prefer the latter.

      You are correct in the price difference between the two.. you pay a luxury price for a luxury car, that is why your average kid is not driving one!!


    21. 11-21-2006 11:01 PM #21
      ttt

    22. 11-26-2006 09:40 AM #22
      up

    23. 12-02-2006 08:31 AM #23
      up

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      12-02-2006 04:26 PM #24
      sticky please?

    25. 12-03-2006 06:53 AM #25
      I've owned an 01 225 Coupe for one year this past November. It's an AMU motor code and I love the car still. These are the things I have had to replace so far, not counting upgrades:

      4 Coilpacks (OEM) $100
      4 Sparkplugs (Denso IK22) $50
      Temperature Sensor (OEM) $6
      Timing Belt and water pump $700 ($300 parts, $400 labor)
      Transmission Fluid (MT90) $40
      Brake Light Swich $10
      Cabin Filter $15
      Wiper Blades $20
      MAP Sensor $100
      MAF Sensor (VW 2.0) $80
      Strut Bushings & bearings $30
      Brakes & brake fluid & front rotors (Hawk HP, ATE superblue) $350
      Haldex Filter & fluid $40
      Passenger sway bar link arm $30

      I purchased the car with 46K on it, today it has 62K on it. Besides oil changes every 5k that is all the maintanence I've done so far.

      Upgrades are a whole different wallet breaking situation. It's a real addiction. If I had the chance to do it again or save the money, I'd deffinetly do it all again.


      Modified by Village_Idiot at 6:57 AM 12-3-2006


    26. 12-03-2006 12:14 PM #26
      those aren't such bad cost for ownership.

      I'm about to buy a CPO audi from a dealer
      in the tri-state area.... thought about making
      a thread.... maybe I will.

      this buyers guide is filling up with
      some really great info.

      all I can add is a link if you think
      you want a certified pre owned audi
      this link is where to go to search
      through ALL of audis stock based
      upon your location and distance from you..
      ... you'll see

      click me


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      12-04-2006 09:25 PM #27
      I was actually going to put up a post of 'What to look for when buying a used Audi TT'.

      Should make this a 'sticky'.

      Good write up and informative.


    28. 12-06-2006 04:06 PM #28
      updated, I will organize it better when I get time!!! thanks for the information everyone...

      Mods when does this get stickied?


    29. 12-08-2006 08:11 PM #29
      Can someone please Im me what is the earliest year model a 6speed is available?

      TIA!

      Audi TT hopefully my next car.


    30. 12-08-2006 08:39 PM #30
      Quote, originally posted by elmaspingon »
      Can someone please Im me what is the earliest year model a 6speed is available?

      TIA!

      Audi TT hopefully my next car.

      Quote »

      2001
      Roadster becomes available manual or power operation avail
      225-bhp edition w/ 6 speed manual becomes avail



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      12-09-2006 02:48 AM #31
      read before asking my friend!

    32. 12-14-2006 12:18 AM #32
      first page bump

    33. 12-21-2006 07:27 PM #33
      bump it up

    34. 12-30-2006 12:43 AM #34
      bump with a pic of my car that I just got
      this thread is great

      this is what Dolomite Grey looks like at night


    35. 01-03-2007 09:09 AM #35
      up this ish

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